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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: amk on Friday 29 January 10 19:12 GMT (UK)
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hoping someone can help?i,ve been looking for an ethel moore,s parents wedding cert.ethel was born in 1915 and as far as i,m aware she,s the oldest child of mary ann holt and william moore of manchester but the only match i can find is 1904!!surely this seems a long time from marriage to first born!!
amk
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Hello AMK
My parents waited 10 years for their first child so I would say that it is possible .
Perhaps you could consider trying to find the family on the 1911 census . I understand that there is a section on the census form that allows the person completing the form to state how many children are living and unfortunately those who have died , it may help you decide if you have the right couple .
Also , a look up of the marriage may help re occupations , witnesses etc . Lancs BMD have that couple marrying at St James in Collyhurst .
Good luck
Eric :)
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thanks howmuch,thats i,m assuming is them in collyhurst
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Do you have Ethel's birth certificate by chance? Do you know the ages and occupations of her parents? Also this would give where they were living 1915 which would help. If you don't, i think it might be a good investment to narrow down the fathers 1911/1901.
The marriage at ST. James, Collyhurst June 1/4 1904 is looking your only match i could see that fits the bill.
Migky ;)
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I presume you have Ethel's birth certificate, (therefore knowing her mum's maiden name).
Looking on 1911 census (free search, tweaking about). There is William MOORE, with a Mary Ann MOORE both age 30, In Manchester, with children Leah 5, William Jr 4, Sarah Alice 3, Edna 1. Married 1904.
I think you need to get that marriage cert!
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thanks so much amram that is the family i,m after with a couple of new names to go at(i like to find out what happened to the other siblings)could you tell me what street or road they were living at?if not no problem and thanks again for your trouble.
amk
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From 1909/11 & 13 William with the above family living at 1 Bushton street, off Rochdale road Manchester. He was an Armature Winder Electrical ( think he made electic motors )
Migky ;)
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I managed to find that much info without having paid access to 1911 census, so I do not have the address. Looks like Migky has something there. Does this match with the address you have on the 1915 birth cert?
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Hello AMK
Trying to save you a few bob ;D I was doing research at Manchester today and I took the details of the marriage just in case :
Entry 248
Married 21 May 1904 at St James ,Collyhurst
William MOORE possibly 24 yrs Bachelor
Occupation:winder
14 Charlton Street . No district given but that was what it looked like.
Father: William MOORE a clerk
Mary Ann HOLT 23 yrs spinster
Occupation:umbrella maker (I could have done with her today ) ;D
4 Charlton Street
Father:John Henry HOLT . Could not decipher occupation sorry :'(
Both signed
Witnesses: W.Dixon and E.Holt
Hope it helps
Eric :)
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ha ha i know what you mean about the umbrella,thanks so much,how much!!thats a great help filling in the gaps
amk
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Here is Mary Ann Hold with her family 1901 @ 4 Charlton street .
John Henry Holt Head Age 44 Trade: House Painter
Sarah Holt Wife Age 41
Mary Ann Holt Daughter Age 20 Umberela maker
Emma Holt Daughter Age16
William Henry Holt Son Age14
James Edward Holt Son Age 8
Alice Taylor Boarder Age 20
Class: RG13; Piece: 3752; Folio: 18; Page: 28.
By late 1910 to early 1912 they are still at the same address but Mary had left and married and Emma was not there.
Migky ;)
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I suspect that the 14 Charlton street was infact 4 Charlton street and was an address of convenience. What i mean is they put the same address so they would not have banns read in two churches and so not have to donate/pay twice to have them read.
This stand a good chance of been Mary Ann Holt's parents marriage?
Beardoe Sarah Chorlton 8c 909
HOLT John Henry Chorlton 8c 909
Sep 1/4 1880
But there is a change they married when Sarah was only about 18?
FULLER Sarah Manchester 8d 308
HOLT John Henry Manchester 8d 308
Dec 1/4 1878 @ St. George.
Migky ;)
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William Moore 1901 with his parents and siblings @ 11 Ford street, Milesplatting.
William Moore Head Age 49 Occupation: Clerk
Mary E Moore 48
Joseph B Moore 22
William Moore Son Age 20 Occupation: Electrician
Amy Moore 18
Fred Moore 16
Ernest Moore 14
Gertrude Moore 12
James Moore 9
Ada Moore 8
John Moore 5
Class: RG13; Piece: 3757; Folio: 6; Page: 4.
Migky ;)
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This stands a good chance of them marrying ?
Sep 1/4 1872 St. John, Manchester. Vol 8d Page 534
William Moore
Mary Elizabeth Broadie
Migky ;)
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Hello Migky
Very nicely followed up . Its really amazing how your research can quickly move on ! ;D
Eric