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Robert Dale was born in Scackleton. Help needed in finding out more please.
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What kind of time frame are you talking?
David
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1861
RG9/3627/20/33
christopher dale age 49. b.thirlby,yorkshire. occ. agr.lab. head
elizabeth age 51. b. bolton. wife
william age 16. b. scackleton.. occ. agr.lab. son
george age 12. b. ditto. son
charles age 9. b. ditto. son
robert age 6. b. ditto. son
francis age 2. b. ditto. grandson
george gennings age 4 . b. huby,yorkshire. grand son
living at;scackleton,yorkshire
reg.dist;malton
is this your robert?
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thank you, very helpful.
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thank you, very helpful.
i take it this is your man then
here he is in 1871
RG10/4828/78/1
george dobson age 64. b. swinton. occ. farmer of 117 acres. head
ann dobson age 67. b. ryton. wife
elizabeth beilby age 27. b. ryton. occ. domestic servant. neice
silvester hornsey age 44. b. sheriff hutton. occ. farm servant.
robert dale age 16. b. scackleton. occ. farm servant
living at;whenby,yorkshire
reg.dist; easington
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by 1881 robert had married
1881
RG11/4813/20/31
robert dale age 26. b. scackleton. occ. agr. lab. head
sarah.a.dale age 22. b. overton,yorkshire. wife
george.h.dale age 9mnths. b. scackleton. son
living at;scackleton,yorkshire
reg.dist; malton
here is the marriage
robert dale/sarah ann crame
y.o.r. 1878
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; york
vol; 9d
page; 15
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1891
RG12/3975/15/24
robert dale age 35. b. scackleton. occ. agr.lab. head
ann dale age 32. b. overton. wife
george.h.dale age 10. b. scackleton. son
mary.e.dale age 8. b. scackleton. daughter
elizabeth.a.dale age 6. b. scackleton. daughter
john.r.dale age 3. b. scackleton. son
living at;scackleton,yorkshire
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1901
RG13/4541/15/22
robert dale age 45. b. scackleton. occ. horseman on farmhead
sarah.a.dale age 43. b. overton. wife
john.r.dale age 13. b. scackleton. son
living at; scackleton,yorkshire
wonder where mary,elizabeth,george are
will see if i can find them in 1901
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i think this is george though he gives a different birthplace
his occ is bootmaker
also living there is a christopher fothergill he is the father in law of the head of house his oscc is retired bootmaker
and he was born in scackleton
1901
RG13/4544/39/24
george.h.dale age 20. b. carlton husthwick,yorkshire. occ. bootmaker. lodger
living at; chapel lane,easingwold,yorkshire
reg.dist;easingwold
also i had a look in the 1891 census for this george born carlton husthwick and there is no such entry
so another reason to believe this is your george
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i cannot find elizabeth anywhere no death for her either
on the 1891 census she has a middle name beginning with a (probably stands for anne,ann after her mothers second name)
maybe this is her in 1901 age and birthplace fit perfectly
1901
RG13/4546/32/7
emma holiday age 64. b. carlton husthwaite,yorkshire. occ. landlady of public house. head(wid)
clara holiday age 27. b. dalton,thirsk. daughter(unm)
septimus holiday age 25. b. ditto. occ. agricultural engine driver. son(unm)
annie dale age 16. b. scackleton. occ. domestic servant.
living at; railway tavern,dalton,thirsk,yorkshire
reg.dist;thirsk
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here i believe is mary
1901
RG13/
mary.h.or.e.dale age 18. b. scackleton. occ. housemaid
she is living and working in the household of stephen/mary frank stephens occ; farmer
address;stearsly(name of farm probably),brandsby cum stearsby,yorkshire
reg.dist; easingwold
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here is your roberts birth index
name; robert dale
y.o.r. 1854
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; malton
vol; 9d
page;292
as you probably already know malton is the reg.dist for scackleton
and here is probably his death index
name; robert dale
y.o.r. 1935
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; malton
vol; 9d
page; 519
age at death; 80
est birth year; 1855
so now you have robert dale from birth 1854 till death 1935
and censuses 1861-1901
will have a look for his parents christopher and elizabeth prior to roberts birth
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1851
HO107/2369/622/36
christopher dale age 39. b. thirlby. occ. agr.lab. head
elizabeth age 40. b. appleton roebuck. wife
mary age 14. b. scackleton. daughter
jane age 12. b. ditto. daughter
margaret age 10. b. ditto. daughter
thomas age 8. b. ditto. son
william age 6. b. ditto. son
george age 1. b. ditto. son
living at;scackleton,yorkshire
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here is part of the family in 1841
1841
HO107/1356/12/8/8.
thomas holmes age 60. occ. agr.lab
jane holmes age 60
then living in the same house but seperate
elizabeth dale age 30. occ. agr.lab
john dale age 5
jane dale age 2
margaret dale age 9mnths
living at;bolton percy,app;leton roebuck,yorkshire
reg.dist; tadcaster
sub.reg.dist; appleton roebuck
all born in county
i believe that thomas/jane holmes are elizabeths parents
i have found this marriage that seems to confirm this
christopher dale/elizabeth holmes were married on the 4/8/1834 at low catton,yorkshire
this is only a submitted entry on the I.G.I
but this census seems to add creedence to the entry
here is christopher in 1841
HO107/1240/11/4/5
christopher dale age 25. occ. agr.lab.(born in county)
living at;scackleton,hovingham,yorkshire
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christopher states born in thirlby on 1851 census
thirlby is a township and felixkirk is the civil parish
here i believe is his christening
christopher dale son of william dale was christened on the 2/4/1812 at felixkirk,yorkshire
ext.rec I.G.I
although it does not say the mothers name on this record i believe it was margaret
here is the 1841 census for felixkirk
HO107/1235/17/3/9
william dale age 60. occ. agr.lab
margaret dale age 60
mary dale age 3.(believe this could bre the mary dale age 14 with christopher and elizabeth in 1851)
living at;felixkirk,thirlby,yorkshire
all born in county
reg.dist; thirsk
christopher had siblings
john dale 1807
eliz dale 1809(she might have died )
elizabeth dale 1810
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thank you so much. you really are good and so fast. i already had a little of the information you sent me, but of course not all of it.
could i possible ask you to look for something else another part of the family. my mother born 1914 was given away(not addopted) which she told me before she died. on her birth certificate her mother was charlotte wilkinson no father. i have found charlotte in staffordshire age 16 working as a servant but cant find her birth or anything else.
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was your mother born in staffs
was she elsie.e.l.wilkinson
what census did you find charlotte on in staffs was it 1901 or 1911
if it was 1901 then she was born in barnsley
is that the right one?