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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: troods on Thursday 24 March 05 10:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone
Just thought I would post my names for my Holmes family from Donegal.
I have a Thomas Holmes who married a Margaret Ann Carland on 8 Mar 1860 in Raphoe Barony Donegal.
A son Thomas Holmes was born 1860 Raphoe Barony Donegal.
The family then came out to Australia in between this time frame 1860-1866.
As yet I have not found their immigration record in oz, still looking.
Hoping to hear from anyone with a connection to this family.
kind regards
Trudi
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Hi Trudi,
My great grandfather John Holmes is buried in Killea graveyard which is on the border between Derry and Donegal, don't know officially which side. date was 1900. I could not find his tombstone but there is a Holmes family plot in the cemetery.
The photos I have are greater than 500 kb, maybe I will try to zip them.
There is a place, village? called Holmestown near Raphoe, Donegal
Hope this is of interest.
Sam
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
it says that they were both from Advarnock
Under Paphoe on the site
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Hi peeps - Finally back on RC after a long absence. Thanks 4 the bits of info u both have provided. Mmmm interesting about your John Holmes being buried in Killea - so far I have been unable 2 find a death record in either Victoria/WA for John or his wife Susan. Bit of a mystery as 2 what happened 2 them both ????
Once again many thanks 4 your input & I will check that site out Rathmore
Troods
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Hi peeps - Finally back on RC after a long absence. Thanks 4 the bits of info u both have provided. Mmmm interesting about your John Holmes being buried in Killea - so far I have been unable 2 find a death record in either Victoria/WA for John or his wife Susan. Bit of a mystery as 2 what happened 2 them both ????
Once again many thanks 4 your input & I will check that site out Rathmore
Troods
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Hi there,
Don't know if this is of any concern but my Great Great Grandfather was Samuel Holmes B:1874 who was from Co.Donegal (I think he might be from the Altaghaderry area but it's just an assumption). I'm not sure which part of Donegal but he lived in Londonderry across the border and married my G G Grandmother Martha Davis who was also of Donegal.
Just thought I would put in my input in case it would come up at any point in your research! ;D
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Hi Stevie,
Entries in Census records for 1901 and 1911 for Samuel Holmes (wife Martha, son Samuel, etc). Could be a brother of John Holmes although religion different (CoI and Presb). John Holmes married in Clooney CoI church in Derry City in December 1869 to Jane Gallagher (from Donegal).
Hope this is of interest.
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Hi there,
Thanks for the information, I'm trying to fiond out more about this side recently. Might need to make a separate post for it.
Do you know what John Holmes' parents names are?
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Hi,
I have not been able to get a confirmed birth date of this John Holmes. It should be around 1837, probably in Donegal. Next time I am in Ireland I will try newspapers and church records.
Good luck with your research.
Sam
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Hi all
I am also posting in case there is a connection between our families.
My great-great grandfather William HOLMES was born in Raphoe, County Donegal on 24 April 1843.
He married Sarah Maria ORR in the Presbyterian church at Taughboyne? on 24 December 1868 and they emigrated to New Zealand in 1873 with their two children (later to become 5).
William's father was Andrew Holmes, and Andrew was possibly a Presbyterian minister although I am unable to verify this.
William had a sister Catherine born 4 September 1845.
That's all I have for now!
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The only Andrew Holmes I can find as a Presbyterian minister i Ireland is the following:
Rev. Andrew Thoms Holmes, native of Castlefin, ordained Tempo Presbyterian Church 1842, resigned 1849 to do as missionary to Canada.
Brother Rev. Robert Holmes ordained 1839 Coagh Presbyterian Church & died 18 Sept.1881."The Will of the Reverend Robert Holmes late of Coagh County Tyrone Presbyterian Minister deceased who died 18 September 1881 at same place was proved at Armagh by Robert Andrew King Holmes of Coagh M.D. the sole Executor." See www.proni.gov.uk to see wording of Will (which mentions children, in Manitoba, of his dead brother Andrew Thomas King).
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I am now fairly confident that my Andrew Holmes was NOT a Presbyterian minister.
Also, I was recently in touch with a couple of people who believe that all of the Holmes families from this area are related to each other, and descended from this man:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Holmes-5926
Of course it is yet to be proven, but there is quite a lot of info regarding his descendants from the Public Record Office in Nothern Ireland.
To the original poster: Is it possible your forebears moved onto (and subsequently passed away in) New Zealand? Not uncommon. There are some fitting suspects (John) here (No Susan sorry):
https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2FqueryEntry.m%3Ftype%3Ddeaths
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Hello had a look for your Holmes family
If the birth of William is correct I can see four other siblings
Sarah Holmes 1836
Joseph Holmes 1838
Mary Holmes 1840 (mothers name not given)but same townland
William Holmes 1843
Catherine Holmes 1845
Father Andrew Holmes, mother Rebecca Allen, births registered Raphoe Presbyterian church
Address for first three births, Lismontigley, Raphoe
on Catherine's birth the address is given as Milltown, Raphoe, a John Holmes is listed living at Milltown in the Griffith Valuation of 1858.
Interestingly on the transcription of Williams birth it does state that Andrew Holmes was a Church minister, I don't see any other references to an Andrew Holmes Minister and occupation is not given on other births so a bit dubious
Hope this helps
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Thanks joe
Ironically I had just found out about those siblings this week. Should've just posted here in the first place! :)
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Ive been looking for George Holmes (1817-1890) who was born in Donegal and came to Philadelphia in 1840. He married Mary Smith (abt 1818 - 1880) who came to Philadelphia in 1832. All of the records I can find for them states they are from Donegal. I haven't been able to find clues on where exactly they were from or who their parents were.
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Hi everyone
Just thought I would post my names for my Holmes family from Donegal.
I have a Thomas Holmes who married a Margaret Ann Carland on 8 Mar 1860 in Raphoe Barony Donegal.
A son Thomas Holmes was born 1860 Raphoe Barony Donegal.
The family then came out to Australia in between this time frame 1860-1866.
As yet I have not found their immigration record in oz, still looking.
Hoping to hear from anyone with a connection to this family.
kind regards
Trudi
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I think I'm one of the family. Just seen this site, my dad is Stewart Holmes, went to Donegal to stay with his family when he was 8 from Scotland. Have the family tree. . Thomas his grandfather.
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Hi Janice and fellow Holmes ancestors,
I have been unable to find any other clues in regards to my Thomas Holmes, but I can see that some of you have had some wonderful break throughs. That's fantastic :)
Troods
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The only site I've found for church birth records prior to the time of the Civil Records is rootsireland, which is a paying site. However, I see there that Margaret Carland (Presbyterian) address Advarnock, father John, Farmer married Thomas Holmes (Presbyterian) Advarnock father John Holmes, farmer. Date 8-Mar 1860. There is a townland called Advarnock Glebe in Raphoe Parish. You can try to determine which Presbyterian church they may have attended. Look at donegalgenealogy.com under the Raphoe parish, they've got a great map of the townlands in each parish as well as other information that pertains to this parish. Now that you have a townland you can see what's listed in Griffith's Valuations. You can also try a search for Advarnock in britishnewspapers.com. You can pay a small fee for 24 use. Good luck!
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
The only site I've found for church birth records prior to the time of the Civil Records is rootsireland, which is a paying site. However, I see there that Margaret Carland (Presbyterian) address Advarnock, father John, Farmer married Thomas Holmes (Presbyterian) Advarnock father John Holmes, farmer. Date 8-Mar 1860. There is a townland called Advarnock Glebe in Raphoe Parish. You can try to determine which Presbyterian church they may have attended. Look at donegalgenealogy.com under the Raphoe parish, they've got a great map of the townlands in each parish as well as other information that pertains to this parish. Now that you have a townland you can see what's listed in Griffith's Valuations. You can also try a search for Advarnock in britishnewspapers.com. You can pay a small fee for 24 use. Good luck!
The townland is Ardvarnock Glebe.
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/raphoe-north/raphoe/figart/ardvarnock-glebe/
KG
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Sorry for the spelling error...actually I was just copying the record as written. The devil is always in the details. ::)