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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: Rossolad on Tuesday 20 April 10 10:50 BST (UK)
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Hello, I have this couple Albert Edward Ward and Elizabeth M Pegg who married in Aylsham in 1914. I cannot find either in the 1901 and 1891 census when they were still single.
Can you have a look in the 1911 census to see if they're there? The Wards were quite prolific in Norfolk but none of them seem to match. The two were in London by 1918.
Thank you,
Rossolad
Ray
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Gotcha, sorry :( :(
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Hi Rossolad
what do you know about Elizabeth and Albert?
do you have their marriage certificate?
this will show you their ages and fathers name and hopefully we can locate them in earlier census
also it helps with the occupation, whilst some changed their occupation as often as thier socks the father may have been in more regular employment or trade such as a butcher :)
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why do you think Albert came from Norfolk?sorry realised its Aylsham Norfolk not Alysham Bucks
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on the GRO index for the marriage entry it just gives Albert as Albert E
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Hello Toni,
The marriage certificate has become 'mislaid' but memories survive, thus Edward as second name, age no recollection, he was a foreman ganger, whatever that is and Albert E's address was 23 Holly Bush Road, Barnet.
sorry there isn't more!
Just had a thought, if l could find his death it may give his age and so work out his birthdate, I'll give that a go.
Thank you
Ray
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a foreman ganger would presumably be a foreman of a gang :)
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you would assume they didnt marry before the age of 21 so the latest birth date would be circa 1893
it is dangerous to assume anything in this game - can send you completely on the wrong track
but i keep finding this Albert Edward
Albert Edward Ward
Birth: 3 Sep 1893
Death: Wisbech, Norfolk, England Q3 1973
does that tie in with what you know ?
and birth ?
Albert Edward Ward
1893 Q3
: Freebridge Lynn Norfolk
4b 317
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That could be correct, I thought the family were from London 'till the bit about the marriage in Norfolk. There's a distant relative who gives me odd bits of the story but it's like pulling teeth, I've emailed her asking when her Grandfather, the said Albert Edward, died but so far this morning no reply. A pity Queen Victoria had a husband called Albert and a son 'heir to the throne' called Edward which probably accounts for the rash of Albert Edward in the late 19th century. When working back into the unknown I usually assume men were married aged circa 23 and women 20, not accurate but surprising how many were those ages,but as you say, put nothing in untill you're doubly sure.
I'll put that Albert Edward on the possibles list for a further check, thank you. I'll google and get a map of Norfolk and see where all these places are.
Thank you,
Ray
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it may be wise to get another copy of the marriage certificate so you can start from exactly the right information :)
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Hi,
I had a relative who worked on the UK railways, he mentioned a work friend who was a Foreman Ganger, so perhaps Albert E worked on the railways.
Regards.
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Hello findem,
Thanks for the nod, may help if I ever get any more information on him.
Toni,
Thanks for trying, This relative is out in the twigs of a tree and unfortunately the coffers won't stand for pillaging on such a way out relative. The relative I mentioned yesterday came back with her fathers death (by bad luck he was called Albert Edwards) so it caused some confusion.
Looks like it's dead in the water unless some aged relative comes up out of the woodwork with anything.
Thanks for the help.
Ray ;D
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slightly confused is Albert Edward Ward aka Albert EdwardS Ward?
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what made you think that the family were from London ?
is it because they lived in London from 1918 ?
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Hello again,
I seem to be getting you in a tangle. I'm trying to find Albert Edward Ward who married Elizabeth Pegg in 1914 in Aylesbury Norwich but I don't know when either was born. The Ward family were in Norfolk in 1914 but in Barnet by 1917.
Seperately, their daughter Kathleen Victoria Ward b 1917 in Barnet, married an Albert Edwards. Kathleen was married about 1937 from Barnet which is where the London link is.
It's causing confusion here with relatives.
Ray