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Title: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Wednesday 26 May 10 06:54 BST (UK)
Hi There,

I have Benjamin Stone's death certificate where he died 3/8/1889 in Auckland, NZ aged 67. It says he was here for 28 years

This makes him born about 1822. It has Essex, England for his birth place.
He married a Rose Ann Murphy in India. But on his son's birth cert it has Brown as the surname

The first child a male was born abt 1853 and the next male child was born abt 1860

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,455608.0.html
This is the link to the thread about his son Joseph who was born in NZ 1872

I would love to know who Benjamin's parents are

It anyone can help that would be great

Regards
Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 27 May 10 06:46 BST (UK)
Have you any idea when he left England, he doesn't appear to be on 1841 or 1851 putting in circa 1822 but I stand to be corrected


If you could manage to get his marriage cert you would at least find his father

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Thursday 27 May 10 11:32 BST (UK)
I do not know when they married in India and have never got a marriage cert from there.

I wonder if he added ans "s" to the end of his name making it STONES

Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 27 May 10 11:57 BST (UK)
 HO107/336 Book 17;
Civil Parish Abbots Roothing  Essex
 Enumeration District 1; Folio 6 Page 6
1841 Abbotts Roothing
Benjamin Stones 20 ag lab
Lucy 27
William 4
Benjamin 1 all born in county of Essex

Marr of Benjamin Stones to Lucy Sunidge took place in Ongar Dec qtr 1839
REF 12   337

I cannot find this family on 1851, I do not know if this is your man

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Thursday 27 May 10 12:01 BST (UK)
Thank you for that info

I am not sure if it is my family either.

Does any one know how I would find a marriage in India?

Thanks so much for your help

Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Thursday 27 May 10 12:02 BST (UK)
Would there be a way to find the birth of this man?

Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 27 May 10 12:46 BST (UK)
T o be honest you would need to narrow it down a bit to search his birth, Essex is far to wide an area to do a search to be honest, you won't get a cert prior to 1837, only  a baptism if he was baptised in Essex

There is 1 on IGI,but once again who knows if this one is correct more than the previous one
Benjamin Stones born about 1819 White Roding, spouse Martha about 1844 White Roding

I don't know how you can get a cert from India, if he was a British subject would it be lodged in London somewhere?, someone more knowledgeable than me would have to help you,is there a section on RC

I hope you find your man

LM
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 27 May 10 12:49 BST (UK)
Yes, there is an Indian section on RC, look at some of the postings and see if there is any info that way

regards

LM
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Monday 31 May 10 05:21 BST (UK)
Hi There,

Since my last post I have found out today that Benjamin STONE was in the 70th Regiment.
He enlisted on 02 February 1843 and was discharged in New Zealand on 10 May 1865 for his pension.
                         
He was born in Chesham He was a labourer. He left Calautta on the "Daniel Rankin" 23 February 1861 and arrived in Auckland, New Zealand on 13 May 1861

Am still to work out what age Benjamin was when he joined the army.

Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 31 May 10 16:37 BST (UK)
Looks like he was about 21 if you assumed he was born 1822

Isn't Chesham in Bucks county ?

LM
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 31 May 10 18:00 BST (UK)
Chesham sure is in Bucks.

Hi Newbe,
Possible ;
Birth/Christening IGI Extracted Record;
Benjamin STONE
Birth, 07 April 1822
Christened, 05 May 1822, Latimer, Buckingham
Parents, JOHN and REBECCA

Did he name any of his Children John or Rebecca?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 31 May 10 18:37 BST (UK)
Found John and Rebecca in 1841 in Chesham but no Benjamin with them :P

1841 Census
Chesham, Buckinghamshire
HO107/47/9/Chesham

John STONE, 59, D V
Rebecca Stone, 50
Doread Stone, 10 ( Image is DORCAS)- see below
All born in County

I have no idea what Occp DV is???

Sibings on Christening Batch with Benjamin;
JOHN, 29 November 1812
CHARLOTTE, 09 April 1815
SARAH, 13 July 1817
JAMES, 16 April 1820
DORCAS, 11 April 1829

Marriage has a few Submitted Records;
John STONE/Rebecca BUCKLEY, 16 February 1807, Chesham

1851 Census I have not found John and Rebecca yet but;

1851 Census
Two Wells,
Chesham, Bucks
HO107/1717/250/13

William CLARK, 26, Head, Mar, Ag lab, born Herts, Bovingdon
DORCAS Clark, 23, Wife, Mar, Plaitter, born Bucks, Chesham
William Clark, 2, Son, born Bucks, Chesham

Marriage;
Dorcas STONE, Dec 1846, Amersham, 6 559
On the same page is William CLARK


Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 31 May 10 18:51 BST (UK)
 Found Brother James Stone in 1851 and he is a Mariner.
Got to go its late here.

Cheers,
Trish :)
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Monday 31 May 10 23:12 BST (UK)
Benjamin named a son John  in India and a daughter Charlotte in India as well
No parents listed on his death certificate

Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: newbe_nz on Friday 18 June 10 13:35 BST (UK)
Just found my Benjamin Stone on Find My Past.

Born abt 1825
Parish of birth Chisham
Town of birth  Chisham
County of Birth Buckinghamshire
Age at attestation 18
Attestation date 7 February 1843
Discharge Rank Private
Discharge Corps 70th Tegt of Foot
Discharge Soldier Number 1991
The National Archives reference W097/ 1600/ 161

Cheers
Newbe
Title: Re: Benjamin STONE
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 18 June 10 21:42 BST (UK)
so pleased you have found your Benjamin at last

LM