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I am looking for help in tracing my grandfathers parents. He was James Alfred Robinson born in Caistor(district for Grimsby) in 1896. I know his mother was Elizabeth Ann Chambers and her husband John Robert Robinson, its john Im trying to find. I have Johns wedding certificate which says he was 24 when he married Elizabeth in Dec 1890 in Grimsby Lincs, Johns father on the certificate was deceased. Elizabeth came from Sunderland, dont know where John was born. With a name like Robinson and John Im finding it rather difficult and already spent about 3 mnths working on it Would appreciate any help or advice anybody can offer.
Tony Robinson
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... Johns father on the certificate was deceased ...
but unnamed?
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sorry misssed that off he was William a printer
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In the 1881 census there is a family Robinson Living in Caistor District
Willingham Road, Market Rasen.
ROBINSON, Thomas Married born 1831 Market Rasen Occupation Tailor
ROBINSON, Mary A Wife born 1821 Great Gonerby
ROBINSON, William Son single born 1863 Market Rasen Occupation Printer
BOGG, Mary A Grandaughter born 1879 Acthorpe
BOGG, Eliza A Grandaughter born 1881 Market Rasen
Is this your family do you think?
Alan
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Hi Alan :)
I thought William the Printer had a son called John who married in 1890. Your chap is too young isn't he?
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Hi Geoff :)
Yes I thought that after I posted but left it there as I thought it such a coincidence.
Alan
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Hello Rexy...are you sure William was a Printer,and not a Painter?
The marriage I have found say's he was a deceased Painter.
If he is the same William perhaps he will be easier to find in the census (if he was a painter and not a printer)
Or perhaps I have the wrong one altogether.... if this is so I am sorry.
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Thanks for all the responses and work you guys have obviously put in. Let me clarify what Im after:
Im looking for the father of John Robert Robinson. John (according to his marriage certificate) was 24 yrs old when he married Elizabeth Ann Chambers on 28 Dec 1890 at St Johns church in Grimsby. On this certificte it says John's father was a William Robinson, deceased and a printer by trade.
hope this clarifies
thanks Tony
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To clarify further, if John was 24 when married in 1890 then he was born 1866/67 and sure enough there is a birth in Lincoln, registered Dec.1867 of a John Robert Robinson. If we assume his father was about 20-25 when he was born, that would mean William was born about 1840-50. However, the easiest thing to do would be to get the birth certificate of John Robert Robinson, Dec.1867 Lincoln 7a 444.
Lizzie
Modified - Getting the birth certificate would not only give his father's name, but also his mother's. Apart from the fact that William is stated as deceased on John's marriage certificate, it is impossible to know when he died. It could have been anytime from 1867 to 1890. I can't find a William Robinson, born before 1850 who was a printer on any census.
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However, the easiest thing to do would be to get the birth certificate of John Robert Robinson, Dec.1867 Lincoln 7a 444.
Modified - Getting the birth certificate would not only give his father's name,
... assuming of course that there really was a William Robinson :)
Actually, there was a William ROBINSON aged 30 buried in Lincoln in 1868 - he had died in Hanley, Staffordshire.
Deaths Jun 1868
ROBINSON William 30 Stoke T. 6b 91
and whaddayaknow - there was a William ROBINSON 23 Printer and Compoitor born Lincoln in Hanley in 1861 with wife Elizabeth 25 and son Edward J aged 1. (all born Lincoln) :D
Perhaps this couple
Marriages Jun 1859
HOLDEN Elizabeth Lincoln 7a 897
ROBINSON William Lincoln 7a 897
There was a John R ROBINSON aged 3, grandson in a BROWN household in Lincoln in 1871.
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Geoff-E - that sounds a good possibility. Alternatively-
On the 1881 census, there is a William Robinson, aged 49, married a printer born Leeds, with someone called Sarah Ann aged 21! Also married, born in Lincolnshire, who was a servant registrar in hospital service. They are staying at 4 Valley Parade, Manningham, Yorks.
So if by any chance this is John’s father, perhaps he wasn’t deceased, just living somewhere else with someone other than the original Mrs Robinson (and a good deal younger ::).
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If it should happen to be the William that I found, there is added interest as his mother was born in India (and her mother was from Luton).
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Thanks for all the info I will work my way through it all and see if I can make any fit. Thanks.
I have just been looking on a different tack, looking through the marriages for a "William" guessing around 1850 to 1868 looking specifically in the district of Caistor which was Grimsby. On the records Ive found and there are quite a number, but they dont link William to any woman just shows others married at the same time, so how do I link the William to any specific woman? If I go into Grimsby regiser office will their records tell me that? and am I allowed to search them?
Appreciate any further help in this direction
Tony
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You could get the Caistor Spreadsheet from here http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/
Don't forget to read the Caistor Instructions to find out what is (or isn't) there.