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Title: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: montie on Sunday 01 August 10 23:56 BST (UK)
Hello everybody,
I am looking for any information regarding an old RC church in Templeboy parish located on an estate (possibly the old Hillas estate). This church was the one where my ancestor got married in 1816 and another was baptised in 1827, so before the current RC church was built around 1870. The old church, now in ruins, is located near a river or stream and totally overgrown. If anyone knows what church I am talking about, I would appreciate any information you may have about it!
Thanks!
S.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Elsie 2011 on Sunday 23 October 11 02:29 BST (UK)
Hi S,
I know your post is over a year old but I was just wondering if you still need information on that RC church in Templeboy?  I know the church very well and can help...
Elsie.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: montie on Sunday 23 October 11 03:32 BST (UK)
Hi Elsie,
that would be fantastic! I found some information about the church itself, like maybe it was already there in 1780, and it was indeed on the Hillas estate, and that it was serving about 500 people, but nothing more or certain. Father Judge (of the current RC church) could not help at the time I saw him, and I have tried to contact the Killala diocese but no answer. My next move was to wait until I am in Sligo again (maybe next year) and go to the library to try to find more. But if you can help me that would be really great. I walked by the church on a little path that goes down to the stream; I thought this was the way to the church from the road (which is visible from the path but quite inaccessible), but from the Griffith valuation maps the path is older.
Anyway, do let me know if you can help!! and thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Elsie 2011 on Monday 24 October 11 22:44 BST (UK)
Hi there S,

You already know so much!  I'm not sure how I can help but I got the following information from a book titled Templeboy, the author was Cannon Halloran of the Templeboy parish in 2000: 

"The old church, the ruin of which is still visible beside the stream in Donecoy was probably built about the mid 1700's. Why the church was on Hilla's ground is not clear.  Prehaps because Hillas was a fair minded landlord or prehaps because he had many catholic tennants and workers, it would be safer to have them 'on side'.  This church continued in use until the present one was finished in 1875."

The book is very interesting about the Templeboy parish.
 
This website mentions the Hillas estate and maybe you might be interested?  The website is...    http://www.landedestates.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp?id=234

I hope this helps a little,  Elsie.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: montie on Tuesday 25 October 11 02:40 BST (UK)
Thanks, Elsie! that book sounds like a great find!  Do you know where I can buy it?
Do you know if the church is still on consecrated land?
S.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Elsie 2011 on Tuesday 25 October 11 10:32 BST (UK)
Hi S,  the church is not on consecrated ground anymore.  I don't think the Templeboy book is in print today but my mother is checking out the locality for extra copies!  I'll let you know!  Elsie.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Elsie 2011 on Thursday 27 October 11 16:29 BST (UK)
Hi S, so far I haven't been able to locate a copy of that book but I am still looking.  I have my mothers copy here on front of me, wish you could see it!  Is there anything I could look up for you, like a particular surname or place in Templeboy?  I know this isn't great and that you'd like a copy of the book so I'll keep looking. Elsie.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: James Lorenzana on Friday 15 May 15 21:22 BST (UK)
Hello. I would also like to request a copy of the  book titled Templeboy, the author was Cannon Halloran of the Templeboy parish in 2000: 

My my Great Grandfather Michael Healy who was married to Ellen Gallagher Healy,  were both national teachers, and lived in House 24 Carrowmore (Kilmacowen, Sligo). Both Micheal and Ellen Gallagher Healy are buried at the Grangemore (Old) Templeboy cemetery.

I am also searching Michael's Father, Hugh Healy who was married to Anne Coan Healy.

Hugh Healy is my Great Great Grandfather. According to the national archives, he provided teachings on 1853 at Cappagh (A) N.S. Teacher: Hugh HEALY.

I am in the USA, and would like to get additional information on where/how I can find information about my Great Grandfather Michael Healy, and
Great Great Grandfather (Hugh Healy)

Regards,
James
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: annclare on Sunday 17 May 15 12:59 BST (UK)
You may have this already- church marriage showing on rootsireland Hugh Healy Ann Coan 26 Sep 1854 No parents names witnesses Denis Bradley Bridget Coan Killoran Parish.
annclare
also it seems that the booklet is not available - There is a copy in Sligo Library.
http://catalog.sligolibrary.ie/uhtbin/cgisirsi.exe/?ps=nQrDi2485g/CO-LIBRARY/36060007/9

Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Sunday 20 March 16 21:41 GMT (UK)
hi there, just read your post I too are looking for the old church at templeboy. I have looked at the griffiths map, and google maps and not sure where to find it. theres a bridge, so if I am heading west are the remains of the church on the left or the right. if anyone knows please let me know we are planning to visit in June.
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 20 March 16 21:57 GMT (UK)
https://www.google.ie/maps/@54.2520451,-8.8264767,3a,75y,90h,65.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfGaa9x4CFExvsGeW57S1Jg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 20 March 16 22:02 GMT (UK)
Doonycoy,  just zoom in

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Templeboy,+Co.+Sligo/@54.2482913,-8.820917,12.71z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x485ece5f4a8d21cb:0x2600c7a819baa041
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Sunday 20 March 16 23:57 GMT (UK)
fabulous, nice to know my great great great grandfather got married here in 1819. lovely view of the sea.thanks
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 15:38 GMT (UK)
just a quick thing, is there a reference confirming this. On the griffiths map it mentions the chapel on the riverside, up on the N road
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 16:01 GMT (UK)
i have checked griffiths, and the church is supposed to be on the main N road, west of the new church in the wooded area. I have read a reference elsewhere as this is the site, on the opposite side of the road from the new church down the hill. its still on the river by the bridge. any thoughts?

Simon
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: hallmark on Monday 21 March 16 16:56 GMT (UK)
The old church, the ruin of which is still visible beside the stream in Donecoy was probably built about the mid 1700's.... which is why I posted the link to stream at Donecoy!!!

If you go to stream on N road it is NOT Donecoy!!  It is Ardkill townland!

https://www.google.ie/maps/@54.2440083,-8.8235842,3a,75y,90h,88.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snACHJ4Z74xmRoGqsGwCmYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  !!
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: hallmark on Monday 21 March 16 16:59 GMT (UK)
just a quick thing, is there a reference confirming this. On the griffiths map it mentions the chapel on the riverside, up on the N road

N = North...  up on the NORTH road

roads didn't have N categories then, or M for motorway or R for regional!!

A road was a road in Griffith's time!
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 17:10 GMT (UK)
this is griffiths and you can see a building there in the hollow by the bridge and river, looks like a square remains from the air as well
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: hallmark on Monday 21 March 16 17:12 GMT (UK)
OK... dunno why Doonycoy was mentioned so!
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 17:16 GMT (UK)
wonder if its the name of the river? seems more sense having it inland a bit and very close to the new one
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 20:20 GMT (UK)
just found 3 comments on remains of a small chapel remains by the gates of the Seaview Estate, home of the Hillias. will check it out when Im over in a few weeks. makes sense though near the new church
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: simoncon on Monday 21 March 16 20:21 GMT (UK)
Ballyeeskeen the townland
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: sarah on Monday 15 November 21 15:05 GMT (UK)
Message from James, he click on the report to moderator button instead of the reply button, you will find the reply button at the very bottom of the thread on the right hand side ;)

Regards

Sarah


The reporter has made the following comment:
I don't know how to thank you for this information. I went back and found this entry about Hugh Healy. Is there an address for Sligo Library so I can visit and get a copy of this booklet to get additional information on HUGH Healy + Ann Coat?
Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 15 November 21 15:45 GMT (UK)

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Is there an address for Sligo Library so I can visit and get a copy of this booklet.....

Sligo County Libraries,
Stephen Street,
Sligo,
Ireland.
F91 X264

Tel: 071 9111850
E-Mail: sligolib(at)sligococo.ie

https://sligolibrary.ie/local-studies-and-reference-2/

Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 16 November 21 10:55 GMT (UK)

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........looking for any information regarding an old RC church in Templeboy parish located on an estate (possibly the old Hillas estate).

From the updated GeoHive National Townland and Historical Map Viewer (6" First Edition Colour 1829-1841)-
https://arcg.is/1C41jr

Click in once to see the old RC Chapel in Ardkill townland, the Sea View house and estate in Carrowmacrory townland and the adjacent townland of Doonycoy.

This later Historic 6" Last Edition B&W shows the new RC Church further along the road at the Templeboy crossroads and the ruins of the original church (at the estate entrance).
https://arcg.is/0PH0zW


Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 11 December 21 09:25 GMT (UK)

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Ballyeeskeen the townland

https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tireragh/templeboy/templeboy-north/ballyeeskeen/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3217870#map=14/54.2485/-8.8564
https://arcg.is/1nTvTr

Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 December 21 12:38 GMT (UK)

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......my Great Grandfather Michael Healy who was married to Ellen Gallagher Healy,  were both national teachers, and lived in House 24 Carrowmore (Kilmacowen, Sligo).

The Healy family in the 1901/1911 censuses.

1901 census in house 11 in Cloonascoffagh (Dromore, Sligo).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Dromore/Cloonascoffagh/1677296/

1911 census in house 4 in Doonbeakin (Templeboy South, Sligo).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Templeboy_South/Doonbeakin/769930/

Cloonascoffagh east of Dromore West.
https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tireragh/kilmacshalgan/dromore/cloonascoffagh/

Doonbeakin
https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tireragh/kilmacshalgan/templeboy-south/doonbeakin/

First born Mary Veronica Josephine born 12th February 1899.   MMN Gallagher
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02047/1783718.pdf

Here's the death of Michael Healy in 1934 at Doonbeakin. The informant was his son James Healy (born 1912).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1934/04846/4307248.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01498/1608853.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 December 21 16:10 GMT (UK)
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.....the death of Michael Healy in 1934 at Doonbeakin. The informant was his son James Healy (born 1912).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1934/04846/4307248.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01498/1608853.pdf

James Healy married Eleanor FLYNN on 11th September 1934 at Templeboy RC church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08947/5238507.pdf

Eleanor living in the townland of Cartron.
https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tireragh/templeboy/templeboy-north/cartron/

Born as Ellen Frances in 1913 at Cartron.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01448/1592155.pdf

Her parents and siblings as Flynne in 1911 census.
House 1 in Cartron (Templeboy North, Sligo).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Templeboy_North/Cartron/769840/

KG

Title: Re: Old RC church in Templeboy parish
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 25 November 22 09:32 GMT (UK)

From the updated GeoHive National Townland and Historical Map Viewer (6" First Edition Colour 1829-1841)-
https://arcg.is/1C41jr

Click in once to see the old RC Chapel in Ardkill townland, the Sea View house and estate in Carrowmacrory townland and the adjacent townland of Doonycoy.

This later Historic 6" Last Edition B&W shows the new RC Church further along the road at the Templeboy crossroads and the ruins of the original church (at the estate entrance).
https://arcg.is/0PH0zW


Updated OSi National Townland and Historical Map Viewer:

MapGenie 6 Inch First Edition - Colour (1829-1841)
https://arcg.is/1Oqiyr0

MapGenie 6 Inch Last Edition Black
https://arcg.is/1i98K4


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Ballyeeskeen the townland

https://www.townlands.ie/sligo/tireragh/templeboy/templeboy-north/ballyeeskeen/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3217870#map=14/54.2485/-8.8564
https://arcg.is/1nTvTr


MapGenie 6 Inch First Edition Black
https://arcg.is/1SvGSm