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Title: Halpins of Wicklow - Part 3
Post by: BillW on Friday 20 August 10 22:56 BST (UK)
Welcome everyone.  Ray Halpin, who had taken on the former thread, has requested that I initiate the continued one, which I am only too happy to do.  The previous 30 pages only took from February to August to fill, half a year, and I think much progress was made.
This is not a "closed" discussion group and I encourage new contributors with fresh material, or comments on past material, to enter the discussion.  We all benefit mutually from each and every contribution.
I encourage all of us to dip into the last 60 pages (for which the Moderator has kindly supplied links).  The intensity of discussion and contributions sometimes leads to overlooking what has already been discovered and achieved.  Not only that, with our most up-to-date knowledge, we can get fresh perspectives on the older material, most of which retains its original integrity.
With best wishes, Bill.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 20 August 10 23:01 BST (UK)
Links to previous threads-
Halpin family of Wicklow (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270348.0.html)
Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,440561.0.html)
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Sunday 22 August 10 00:10 BST (UK)
I received the following in reply to a query to the Nat.Lib. IRL in June 2009,
in case anyone is interested:

Your query has been forwarded to the Manuscripts Department of the National Library of Ireland. There are a few items relating to various families with the surname Halpen, or derivatives of that name, such as:

 i)  Genealogical Office, MS 800, p.5: draft pedigree of Halpin of Co. Cavan and Von Koffelow of Schwerin, c. 1700-1912

 ii)   MS 24034-5: pedigree notes by Mac Iomhair on the family of Halpenny from Ardee, Co. Louth (c.1750-c.1900)

 iii)  D 27521-7: leases regarding the family of Gregg and the associated family of Halpin (Capt. Richard Halpin) concerning lands on the Murrough of Wicklow and at Church Street, Wicklow, Co. Wicklow. 7 items. Dates: 1840-75

There are also one or two items relating to William J. Halpin (a native of Co. Meath who was a prominent member of the Fenian Brotherhood in the United States during the 1860s along with Thomas W. Sweeny), although there is no material relating to his pedigree, or to his family or property.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Sunday 22 August 10 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi Ken - on point i):  I've read it and passed the info on to everyone some time ago.  The info it contains appears in Burke's peerage as the family tree we all now possess (re. the Portarlington branch).  It is handwritten, and it was from that document that I learned of two William Halpin's, formerly of the RN, residents of Portarlington/Dublin, both preceding Nicholas Halpin.  No dates were given.  So: we have William Halpin (RN), followed by W. Halpin (RN), followed in turn by Old Nick and William Henry Halpin and the Rev. N J Halpin, and so forth - you know the rest.  Brothers and uncles must have been John and Pagett, etc.  Personally, I'm inclined to think that the Wicklow branch of the Halpin family emerges from one of these early Portarlington Halpins - from one William or another.  But I'm only guessing.

I know nothing about point ii).

I've read the documents listed in point iii), but I didn't think there was much of interest to us.  Mostly stuff about who owned what property where in Wicklow town, and who leased what to who, and for how much.  I think that's where the Bradleys are also mentioned.

As for General William G (or J - depending on your source) Halpin, of county Meath.  Well, I have reams of stuff on the chap.  We were told that he and Charles G Halpine were cousins, and that together after the civil war in the US, they hatched a cunning plan to win freedom for Ireland in the Fenianian rising in Dublin in 1867.  William would defend himself manfully in court, while Charles would lead a powerful press campaign arguing for the rights of Irishmen to bear arms against their oppressors (the British) and govern themselves.  It was hoped that the British public would sympathise with the Irish and put pressure on their government to cease its 'enslavement' of the Irish people.  The British public had done something similar before, when - with the guidance of Wilberforce - it petitioned its government for the end of the slave trade.  Charles G Halpine thought he could convince the British people to do something similar for the Irish, using the trial of Gen. W G Halpin and his subsequent imprisonment as pretexts for said campaign.  Well, all was going according to plan until Charles took an overdose of a drug he used to help him cope with the effects of alcohol withdrawl.  He died in a New York hotel and the General was left to fend for himself in Ireland.
     I swear to God I wish this were true, but I think it's baloney myself.  A great story, but with no basis in fact.

Well - with none that I know of. 

Yet.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 22 August 10 22:51 BST (UK)
Ray, I know that you have written of the Williams in the RN but, forgive me, I hadn't associated that with anything written.  There is no mention of a William in the RN, I think, in the Burke's entry.  But it can help to explain Nicholas's son being William.  So there must be more in these papers than got into Burke's.  Would it be possible for the contents of these papers to be more fully expounded here so we can all put our own interpretations on them?

Halpins in the Royal Navy suggests to me more of an association with a maritime county like Wicklow (or Dublin, or Wexford, ...) than Queen's.  I know Ireland is a small country and no-one is that far from the sea.  But I think my suggestion holds.  If these men in the RN are related to us, to me it adds further credence that the family originated somewhere other than Portarlington, as in Diane's and my submission a week or two ago.  I think at least three of the Wicklow family were sea captains, others were harbour masters or similar, and George in Dublin was involved from an early age first with docks and then with lighthouses.  There is no shortage of maritime connections.  And of course, another William Halpin definitely came from Wicklow, father of the Rev Robert Crawford and three military sons.  So, the name William Halpin is not restricted to the Portarlington family.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 23 August 10 02:21 BST (UK)
Further to the above, we know from James Halpin's burial plot in Wicklow Town that his mother Elizabeth is buried there in 1814, aged 75, indicating birth in or before 1739.  So we can reasonably assume that her Halpin husband, James' father, was born around the 1730s. 
The birth date of Nicholas Halpin of Portarlington has been estimated at about 1735.  That puts Elizabeth's husband as an exact contemporary of Nicholas.  Was her husband one of these William Halpins and a brother of Nicholas?  Were Nicholas' brother and father named William?  If Elizabeth's husband was William in the RN, he would have been away for long periods, and that lends explanation to the late births of children.  Elizabeth was in her late 30s when James was born (and possibly William and George, and the fathers of Frederick and Robert Wellington?).
Remember that George Halpin only had known sons named George and Oswald.  We don't know if he had had another son, he would have named him William, but we do know that his son George's first son was named William, as was Wiliam's first son.
Also, in those times, enterprising naval men could make fortunes over the horizon.  Did William come back and retire from the navy with his gains to become a distiller and brewer in Dublin?  Were the brewers William and son James?  Or could William and Nicholas have another brother James?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 23 August 10 12:49 BST (UK)
     Just on the entries in Burke's Peerage, Bill.  Everything I saw in the original document was as transcribed in Burke's, except for the two names that came before Nicholas - both of them William.  I'll try to view the document again and if I can copy it, I'll scan it into the discussion.  The names of both Williams were written in red ink, perhaps with a question mark after one of them, as if the person creating the family tree was a little vague about the people he was trying to recall.  I'll also try to determine when the document was deposited in the archives, and by whom.  That might tell us something important.  I'm guessing it was one of the Cavan-based Halpins, possibly Ralph, the solicitor.       
     If it was Ralph, he would have constructed the family tree from information gleaned from two sources - from family members (probably an Aunt) and archival sources stored in a place like Custom House.  Most of the records stored at Custom House were destroyed when it was shelled during the civil war, and census forms and the like were destroyed when the new Irish government refused to take them off British hands after power transferred from one to the other.  So great sources of information, once available to Ralph, are no longer available to us.
     You're right to draw attention to the prevalence of a name like William in the Halpin lineage, and naming conventions can help in the early stages of an investigation like ours.  But a word of caution - those conventions were practiced by all, and they are more likely to indicate religious and/or political loyalties than familial bloodlines.  William of Orange was revered by virtually all Protestant Irishmen, and they were conscious of the great debt they owed him.  They would demonstrate that debt by naming a son after him.  They would then go one step further and pay homage to their King.  There was a succession of Kings George from about the 1750s through to about the 1840s, so this accounts for the prevalence of that name among the Protestant people of Ireland at that time.  I'm not saying we should shy away from naming conventions, just that we should understand them for what they were.
     As far as the direction the Halpins took in their movements about the country, I'm not wedded to any particular version of events, but I do recognise the value of getting it right.  Did the Halpins move from Wicklow to Portarlington?  Or was it the other way round?  I don't know - but you and Diane have made a good case for the latter.  Let's hope this new thread sheds some light on the matter.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 27 August 10 00:35 BST (UK)
Wicklow (County and Town) gravestone and church inscriptions can be viewed at a commendable ongoing project by Irish Genealogy Projects, as they can for most Counties.  The site is searchable at page: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/index.htm.

Transcribed inscriptions can be accessed at the Headstones link and photos of them at the Photos link, although I am not certain that the photos are up yet.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 27 August 10 02:32 BST (UK)
KENNEDY family married to Louisa HALPIN, 2nd youngest child of James and Ann Halpin of the Bridge Tavern (1½ years the senior of Capt Robert Charles Halpin, the youngest child):

In | Loving Memory | of | WILLIAM HUGH HARRIS KENNEDY | born Nov. 23rd 1841 died Jan. 25th 1902 | and | LOUISA | his wife | born July 16th 1834 died June 24 1902 | also their son | ROBERT C. H. KENNEDY, M.B. | born March 31st 1873, died at Ryde, Isle of Wight | August 6th 1927, Interred at Binstead  | FRANCES FREDERICA KENNEDY | died 21st February 1958. | LYDIA ANNE KENNEDY | died 8th March1958 |LOUISA GERTRUDE KENNEDY | died 14th May 1961 | "I am the resurrection and the life | he that believeth in Me, though he were dead | yet shall he live".

Marie, do you remember Aunt Gertie's sisters?  Although she died in 1961 aged 90, her sisters only died 3 years earlier aged 90 and 88.  We also learn that their brother who went to the IOW seems to have been a doctor, yet another doctor in the family of the Halpins of Wicklow.  I wonder if he may have trained with his 12 years older cousin, Dr James Henry Halpin, in Wentworth Place.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 27 August 10 02:57 BST (UK)
Family of Capt Robert Charles Halpin:

No.135  ROBERT CHARLES HALPIN | of Tinnakilly House | J.P., D.L. for this County | Born Feb. 18th 1836, Died Jan. 20th 1894 | "They that go down to the sea in ships | that do business in great waters | these see the works of the Lord" | "So He bringeth them unto their desired haven"
On the base: - Also his wife | JESSIE | Born September 5th 1849, Died December 10th 1912
On the right side of this Headstone: - and ETHEL HALPIN | Born June 24th 1874, Died May 12th 1951 | BELLE LOUISA HALPIN | Born Aug. 7th 1875, Died April 17th1956
On the left side of this Headstone: - Also his youngest daughter | EDITH | Born May 30th 1879, Died January 16th 1944 | wife of the late H.H.CORLEY

There are a number of dates here that were not previously recorded and it had been assumed that none of his daughters married.  Might there have been any CORLEY children?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 27 August 10 16:52 BST (UK)


     There's a H H Corley of Ireland who refereed in the 1908 Home Nations Championship (a Rugby Union tournament). 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: El Diablo on Thursday 02 September 10 17:48 BST (UK)
I stumbled across the previous thread by accident but I have always had an interest in the Halpins as I previously had an association with Tinakilly House.  I presume it has been mentioned that there are plenty of old Robert Halpin memorabilia in the hotel (or at least it was there a number of years ago when I last visited). The previous owner, Bill Power is a good source of information about Robert and his family.
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Post by: mkent on Tuesday 07 September 10 16:19 BST (UK)
No Bill, I don't remember anything about Gertie Kennedy's sisters, the only other name I remember was Aunt Vi, and I don't know where she came in.  As to Belles sister being married to HH Corley, I never knew any of them married, one was an ambulance drivier in London during the war, I remember talk of that.  I am sure there were no children, but I do remember hearing my Father and Uncle talking about 'Mickey'  they were laughing and saying he was a real joker.  I got the impression that he was an adopted son, but years later I asked a family friend about him and she said she was never aware of any adopted children. That has always fascinated me!  Since coming back from Ireland I have received no notifications of postings, so went onto the site and read the latest ones.   Don't know why I was missed out! 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 07 September 10 22:47 BST (UK)
Marie, a Violet Louise Halpin was the youngest child of Dr Stopford Halpin and his wife Susanna Frances Bestall, who I think lived in Arklow.  She was therefore the great aunt of the Dr Richard Michael Bestall Halpin we are seeking.
Violet was born in 1874 and was therefore a contemporary of her 1st cousin Gertie Kennedy, born 1871.  Records show that she married a man named Casey in 1914 when she was about 40 but I don't know where they lived or when she died.  Does anyone know of Violet Casey?
I hope I have attached the very slightly updated tree chart of the James Halpin family of Wicklow posted in the last series.  Unfortunately it just exceeds one page.  Any corrections welcome.  From this we can all see how this large family has produced so few descendants.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 08 September 10 00:15 BST (UK)
Following Ray’s observation that a H H Corley had been an Irish international rugby player, a sport dear to me, I spent more time looking him up than I might, have found out much, but have not been able to confirm that Edith Halpin’s husband was the rugby player!  Much of what I found is not germane to this topic.  In brief, Henry Hagarty Corley was born 1878 in North Dublin to Anthony Hagarty Corley and Eleanor Purdon.  It is estimated that a Henry Cecil Corley was also born about 1878 and that he on some occasions referred to himself, or was referred to, as H H Corley.  Why I don’t know.  Which was the rugby player?
Anyway, Henry Hagarty Corley in 1907 first married Janet Agnes Violet Watson, daughter of Sir William Watson of 25 Fitzwilliam Place, Dublin.  I mention this address because it was occupied until 1947 by her brother Dr Edward Watson and thereafter by various medical practices but also for a long period by Henry Marvelle Read, malster and farmer of The Old Castle House, Roscrea, who was President of the Rugby Football Union in 1956.
Janet Corley died in 1921 and in the following year Henry Hagarty Corley married Edith Halpin, spinster, in the Dublin South district.   Edith and Henry were of the same age when married, about 43.  Henry died early 1936 at his (their?) home Willsfield, Mark Beech, Edenbridge, Kent.  Edith and her sisters had all been born in Beckenham, Kent, and I am wondering if the captain had purchased this property near Edenbridge for his frequent visits to England.
Edith died eight years later, 1944.  Her death was recorded in the Times:  CORLEY. – On Jan. 16, 1944, after a brief illness, at Tinnakilly, Edith, wife of the late H.H. Corley, Willsfield, Mark Beech, Kent, youngest daughter of the late R.C. Halpin, D.L., Tinnakilly House, Rathnew, Co. Wicklow.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Wednesday 08 September 10 09:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Bill, I don't know much about Violet, apart from the fact that Aileen Halpin lived with her, it was with her and her sister Bessie that I met Aunt Vi in either Rathgar or Rathmines in the late 50s or early 60s. Thanks for the updated tree, the only addition I can see is that Maureen Halpin, sister of Dr Richard Halpin (who I have given up hope of hearing from) has a son Sean.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 08 September 10 09:19 BST (UK)
Please remember not to post details of living, or possibly living people here.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 14 September 10 01:52 BST (UK)
On Oct 29 1849 FREDERICK HALPIN, no age, born Dublin, 1819, received Third Class Certificate as Master under regulations issued by the Board of Trade, examining board Trinity House, London, No. Of Register Ticket 394420.  Present or last previous service: “Dido” of Prince Edward Island, 250 tons, as Mate.  [http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/21035/pages/3310  (abbreviated extraction and my caps)]
So, he was a master of marine from 1849 (aged 30).  He is in the 1851 England Census living as a lodger in London, unmarried:

Frederick Halpin, Master Mariner, age 32, unmarried, born Ireland, lodging at 10 Butlers Building Goodmans Fields, St Botolph Aldgate Class:  HO107; Piece:  1546; Folio:  593; Page:  45; GSU roll:  174776. 

We have to ask if this is the same Frederick Halpin whose memorial inscription is in the burial enclosure of James Halpin in Wicklow, which reads:

Captain Frederick Halpin nephew | of the above named James Halpin who departed | this life on the 26th of February 1859 aged 36 years.  If so, the inscriber has made him 4 years younger.  I don't believe that this inscription necessarily means that he is buried in Wicklow but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 14 September 10 22:36 BST (UK)
On 22nd August 1851, John Warman, Master of the steam packet "Undine", which had arrived at Dover from Calais, made out a statutory declaration of Aliens aboard his vessel.  One of these was:

Name:  Halpin.  Quality/Profession:  Gent.   Country/Pays:  France

So this man named Halpin was noted as an alien giving his domicile as France.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 24 September 10 17:26 BST (UK)
     There were a few requests for this document, it being the source for the Halpin entry in Burke's.  I don't have a large enough scanner, so I can't post all of the relevant material.  But you already have it in other sources.  The important things to note are the first two names at the top of the family tree.  I glanced at the document about a year and a half ago, and for the life of me I don't know why I thought the top two names were "William" - I won't rely on memory again.  Clearly, it isn't as accurate as I thought it was.  Instead of "William", we have "Nicholas William", whom we didn't know about.  And beneath him we have another Nocholas, whom we certainly did know about.  What's interesting, and what I failed to pay attention to the first time I looked at the document, is the news that Nicholas was an OFFICER in the Royal Navy, before settling in Portarlington to teach, a profession "Old Nic", his son, was to follow him into.  Now I imagine there must be documents attesting to Nicholas' service in the RN, which may contain valuable info on who he was and what he actually did.  I'd like to think he was involved in the American War of Independence.  A fruitful line of inquiry, perhaps.
     Finally - the marriage between W H Halpin and Marianne Crosthwaite is recorded as taking place on Jan. 1787 in "St. Thomas" - St. Thomas must be a church or a parish.  I'll try to find out and get back to you - if there's a church registry, it too may contain valuable information.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Friday 24 September 10 22:59 BST (UK)
Dear Ray,  Great to see this document.  Agree that the two oldest Halpins must appear in naval records or the earliest Naval Lists (Steels Naval List, I seem to remember started in the 18th Century).  All best Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 25 September 10 14:32 BST (UK)

     Thanks Brian - still smarting from the error, though.  You might have noticed another previously unheard of name - Frank Halpin, Banker in New York.  That too is something of a revelation - it's a shame we don't attract many American viewers to the site.  They could really help us out on this occasion.                 
     Incidentally - I stumbled across a wonderful exchange between Abraham Lincoln and Charles G. Halpin.  We find them in the White House together during the civil war, and Halpin is expressing his shock over the lack of security surrounding the President.  'Any lunatic could stroll in off the street and assassinate you.'  Lincoln replied that he was a democratically elected president - armed guards would make him look like an Emperor, and that wouldn't do.  It's great stuff, and I'll post it when I type it up.  Cheers.
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Post by: Diane Carruthers on Sunday 26 September 10 23:16 BST (UK)
Great document Ray!

I think Frank Halpin was Louisa Halpin's son.  He changed his name from Frank Deck to Frank Halpin , notice of name change in the paper.  Louisa's husband was an alleged bigamist and she divorced him. On the 1860 census she is living with the Brinkerhoff family in Sing Sing as a governess.Her son Frank is living in Brooklyn with his grandmother ? A. Halpin (62)  born in Ireland and his Aunt Lucy. In 1870 Louisa, Lucy and Frank are all living together.

Marianne and her husband had two daughters Ann A Russell and Emily Grace Russell.

Leah will be interested in this.  On the 1870 census for Lewiston, Virginia are John Wright and Anna Wright  then on the next page are Claude Halpin and Charles Halpin living with the Staples family who are black, so I don't think they are family.  I am guessing it must have been around when their mother died and I guess they were sent from Canada to be with their Aunt Anna.  I'm not sure why they aren't living in the same house with her.  Next year on the 1871 Canadian census they are back home in Canada with their father William Henry. Interesting.

Diane
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 27 September 10 20:22 BST (UK)

Absolutely fascinating, Diane.  I need to think about what you've said.  In the meantime, have a look at this (it's in the public domain):

1.      While the President's family were at their summer-house, near Washington, he rode into town of a morning, or out at night, attended by a mounted escort; but if he returned to town for a while after dark, he rode in unguarded, and often alone, in his open carriage.  On more than one occasion the writer has gone through the streets of Washington at a late hour of the night with the President, without escort, or even the company of a servant, walking all of the way, going and returning.
     Considering the many open and secret threats to take his life, it is not surprising that Mr. Lincoln had many thoughts about his coming to a sudden and violent end.  He once said that he felt the force of the expression "To take one's life in his hand" - but that he would not like to face death suddenly.  He said that he thought himself a great coward physically, and was sure that he would make a poor soldier, for, unless there was something inspiriting in the excitement of a battle, he was sure that he would drop his gun and run, at the first symptom of danger.  That was said sportively, and he added, "Moral cowardice is something which I think I never had."
     Colonel Halpine, while serving as a member of General Halleck's staff, had frequently to wait upon the President, both during official hours and at other times.  On one of these occasions, Mr. Lincoln concluded some interesting remarks with these words: "It would never do for a President to have guards with drawn sabres at his door, as if he fancied he were, or were trying to be, or were assuming to be, an emperor."
     This expression, writes Colonel Halpine, called my attention afresh to what I had remarked to myself almost every time I entered the White House, and to which I had very frequently called the attention both of Major Hay and General Halleck - the utterly unprotected condition of the President's person, and the fact that any assassin or maniac, seeking his life, could enter his presence without the interference of a single armed man to hold him back.  The entrance-doors, and all doors on the official side of the building, were open at all hours of the day, and very late into the evening; and I have many times entered the mansion, and walked up to the rooms of the two private secretaries, as late as nine or ten o'clock at night, without seeing or being challenged by a single soul.  There were, indeed, two attendants - one for the outer door and the other for the door of the official champers; but these - thinking, I suppose, that none would call after office hours save persons were personally acquainted, or had the right of official entry - were, not unfrequently, somewhat remiss in their duties.
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Post by: Shanachai on Monday 27 September 10 20:23 BST (UK)


2.  To this fact I now ventured to call the President's attention, saying that to me - perhaps from my European education - it appeared a deliberate courting of danger, even if the country were in a state of the profoundest peace, for the person at the head of the nation to remain so unprotected.
     There are two dangers, I wound up by saying; the danger of deliberate political assassination, and the mere brute violence of insanity.
     Mr. Lincoln heard me through with a smile, his hands locked across his knees, his body rocking back and forth - the common indication that he was amused.
     Now, as to political assassination, he said, do you think the Richmond people would like to have Hannible Hamlin here any better than myself?  In that one alternative, I have an insurance on my life worth half the prarie land of Illinois.  And beside - this more gravely - if there were such a plot, and they wanted to get at me, no vigilance could keep them out.  We are so mixed up in our affairs, that - no matter what the system established - a conspiracy to assassinate, if such there were, could easily obtain a pass to see me for any one or more of its instruments.
     To betray fear of this, by placing guards or so forth, would only be to put the idea into their heads, and perhaps lead to the very result it was intended to prevent.  As to crazy folks, Major Halpin, why I must only take my chances - the worst crazy people at present, I fear, being some of my own too zealous adherents.  That there may be such dangers as you and many others have suggested to me, is quite possible; but I guess it wouldn't improve things any to publish that we were afraid of them in advance.
     Upon another occasion I remember his coming over one evening after dinner, to General Halleck's private quarters, to protest - half jocularly, half in earnest - against a small detachment of cavalry which had been detailed without his request, and partly against his will, by the lamented General Wadsworth, as a guard for his carriage in going to and returning from the Soldiers' Home.  The burden of his complaint was that he and Mrs. Lincoln 'couldn't hear themselves talk,' for the clatter of their sabres and spurs; and that, as many of them appeared new hands and very awkward, he was more afraid of being shot by the accidental discharge of one of their carbines or revolvers, than of any attempt upon his life or for his capture by the roving squads of Jeb Stuart's cavalry, then hovering all round the exterior works of the city.

- from The Inner Life of Abraham Lincoln, by Frances Bicknell Carpenter (1866), pp.63 - 67.
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Post by: mkent on Tuesday 28 September 10 09:13 BST (UK)
that is fascinating Ray, Robert Halpin was involved in the American Civil War too, I wonder if the two Halpins knew each other.
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Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 28 September 10 19:35 BST (UK)

We can have tremendous fun speculating, Marie.
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Post by: Diane Carruthers on Thursday 30 September 10 01:52 BST (UK)
Hi,
I found Francis Halpin's obituary in the July 6, 1925 New York Times. It says he was the former vice president of the Chase National Bank and that he had been with the bank for 52 years.  He was living in Montclair, New Jersey.

On the 1900 census for Montclair ( you can view it for free on Family search) he is listed with his wife, two children and his mother Mrs. Halpin born in Ireland April 1830, married 1 year with 1 child, parents born in Ireland. It seems like he had done well for himself.

Diane
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Post by: tavern on Sunday 03 October 10 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi Guys,
Just came across your site recently. You appear to have done extensive research on the Halpin family. I don't have time to go through it all so I don't know for sure if you have a copy of the Will of James Halpin of Wicklow dated 22nd July 1847.?
If you don't I can post it on your site.
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Sunday 03 October 10 15:45 BST (UK)

     Hi Tavern - welcome to rootschat.  I think I can safely say on behalf of all of the regular contributors to this site, that any glimpse into the will of James Halpin would be a godsend.  I didn't know a copy of the will existed.  If you could post it, or relevant portions of it, we'd all be very grateful indeed.  Cheers for now - Ray.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Sunday 03 October 10 22:54 BST (UK)
Hi Ray - glad to oblige. Will upload in the next few days.
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Tuesday 05 October 10 09:03 BST (UK)
I found this some time ago:

The Gentleman's and London magazine: or monthly chronologer, 1741-1794 has an entry saying that Mrs Mary Ann Halpin of Portarlington died in June or July 1785.

Could this be the wife of Nicholas William Halpin, naval officer and headmaster of Portarlington School?  The date would fit as I guess Nichoas W Halpin was born aboiut 1715, Portarlington fits ....

Best wishes, Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 05 October 10 15:09 BST (UK)

     I think that's a good find and a sound fit, Brian.  Well done.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Saturday 09 October 10 10:08 BST (UK)
Some information about the Portarlington Halpins from Google Books advanced search using - Halpin + Portarlington. Most of this information we probably know about but may be something of interest for someone.

From “Willis’s Current Notes” – published 1855

“The following memorandum from a manuscript by the late Mr Halpin of Portarlington, Queen’s County, Ireland: in the possession of Dr Hanlon of that town, may possibly be of interest to readers of Current Notes.

“The first master of the French School at Portarlington, was Mr Le Fevre, who kept boarders, a most worthy character, a friend and correspondent of Dr Henry Maude, Bishop of Meath, the original founder and promoter of the Protestant Charter Schools.  From Le Fevre’s school others were established, particularly for infant children, so that the town of Portarlington, for more than half a century has been celebrated for its schools, there being at present (1811) six reputable seminaries for the instruction of the youth of both sexes; three for males and three for females, which conjointly contain three hundred children”.

Le Fevre is of course a well know Huguenot name and a Huguenot settlement existed in Portarlington from the early 18th century. An article in the Ulster Journal of Archaeology, Vol 6, pp 327-346, 1858 “The Huguenot Colony of Portarlington” by Sir Erasmus Borrowes says that 64 French families (i.e. Huguenots) were living in Portarlington as early as 1701.   

It also says that besides Mr Le Fevre, Cassel, Buliot, Durand, Macarel, Bonafou, La Cam, Hood, Baggs, Willis, Halpin, Lyons were all 18th century schoolmasters in Portarlington and Mrs Dunne, Dennison, and Despard had schools for young ladies.

Mr Halpin married Miss Anne Du Bois who would have been a Huguenot – tempted to suggest she was a pretty French Huguenot teacher at Nicholas Halpin’s school in Portarlington!

“French books in eighteenth-century Ireland, Issue 7”, 2001, mentions the dates of some Portarlington schoolmasters/mistresses:

1784-1791 Mr Halpin, English grammar school.
1794 Mme Dunne, boarding school for girls.
1796-1798 Mr La Cam, Portarlington academy.
1797 Mrs Dennison and Miss Mathews, English and French boarding school

The geographical distribution of Irish ability David James O'Donoghue, 1906
Halpin, Rev. Nicholas J. (1790-1850); scholar, born Portarlington.
Halpine, Charles Graham (1829-1868); soldier and poet, born oldcastle.

The Gentleman's magazine, Volume 78, Part 2
8th Sept 1808; Much regretted, Mrs Halpin, wife of W.H Halpin Esq. Of Dublin.  (This must be Marianne Crosthwaite)

The Patrician, Volume 5 edited by John Burke, Sir Bernard Burke 1848
Halpin, William Henry. Esq., for upwards of 30 years connected with the Metropolitan and Provincial Press, second son of W. H. Halpin Esq., of Dublin, 8th May, aged 54, at Dublin.

Mr Halpin  Subscribed to “A View of Irish Affairs Since the Revolution of 1688: To the Close of the Parlimentary Session of 1795”.  Published 1795

Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 10 October 10 21:30 BST (UK)
Brian, I agree that "Mrs Mary Ann Halpin of Portarlington died in June or July 1785" could be the mother of Nicholas Halpin headmaster.
But equally she could be the wife of Nicholas the headmaster, born abt 1735.
I note that from Ray's scanned chart, Nicholas' wife is recorded there as "Miss du Bois".  I can't recall where we got her name as Anne du Bois, which is what we have been working on, but her name could as easily have been Mary Ann du Bois, do you think?  The paper could even have misreported her name. It could have been Marianne, which sounds more French.
I presume the other Marianne's name recorded in the chart as Crosswaite is just a variant, as I have seen it as Crossthwait(e).  However, I don't think this is significant as we have seen the Halpins in league with Leland Crossthwaite and another.  These Crossthwaites are intriguing as they seem to completely disappear from all Irish records in the later 1800s.  Perhaps they decamped to England or America.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 11 October 10 04:17 BST (UK)
This a posting of IFs, which may well look naïve as we discover more.  But as recently as P.1 of this thread, I was speculating on the name William.  IF there was a Nicholas William Halpin with a son named Nicholas born 1735, it is as likely IF he had another son, that son might be called William.
We know that the mother of James Halpin of Wicklow was Elizabeth, born about 1739.  IF, as is quite conceivable, her husband had been this William Halpin, born like Nicholas in the 1730s, he quite probably had a son he named William (who was the paymaster, father of Robert Crawford, etc.), at the same time confirming that William and James, both of Wicklow, were brothers.
And IF this theory holds, that is the link of the Portarlington Nicholas Halpin famiily to the Wicklow James, William (and other?) families.  Their common ancestor would have been Nicholas William Halpin, ex RN.
James had a nephew Frederick (an unknown son of paymaster William?) as well as at least three of his own sons who became sea captains.  Was this influenced (the way smoothed) by their grandfather (and father/uncle William) having been these navy men?
And then, IF, as has been speculated, Nicholas William (and even Nicholas?) saw action in the American War of Independence in the late 1770s, that may well have been enough to give him controversial views, the politics that Ray's lore suggests was at the root of the family arguing.  (However, by this late, I suspect that Nicholas William may have been retired and Nicholas was already teaching.  Perhaps it was the other son, William, who was a RN officer serving in that war?)
So many IFs, but they make a nice theory, I think.  And Ray, could this speculative William have become a distiller in Dublin, perhaps with his son James?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Monday 11 October 10 07:55 BST (UK)
Dear Bill,

Completely agree - not sure where the Anne (Du Bois) first name originally came from.  The complete church records (1694-1816) of the Huguenot Church in Portarlington - L'Eglise Francaise de St Paul - exists but not sure if they are on-line anywhere.  This should show the Halpin - Du Bois marriage.

Best wishes, Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Tuesday 12 October 10 00:33 BST (UK)
Hi,
I have checked the Huguenot Church records for Portarlington and the marriage between Halpin & Du Bois is not there.
Diane



Dear Bill,

Completely agree - not sure where the Anne (Du Bois) first name originally came from.  The complete church records (1694-1816) of the Huguenot Church in Portarlington - L'Eglise Francaise de St Paul - exists but not sure if they are on-line anywhere.  This should show the Halpin - Du Bois marriage.

Best wishes, Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 12 October 10 11:19 BST (UK)
And we don't know that these Halpins came from Queen's Co at all.  Nicholas may have gone to Portarlington to take up a teaching job.  There is evidence that he was an employed teacher before he was a headmaster or proprietor.  In any earlier records there is only the the Halpen famiily from Maryborough in Queen's.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 12 October 10 17:29 BST (UK)
Hi Guys,
Copy of Will as promised. Sorry about the delay as a few words were unclear. I think I have transcribed it correctly with just the name "Hayle"? as doubthful.
Regards,
Tavern


Copy Will of Mr.James Halpin Dated 22nd July 1847
 In the name of God Amen. I James Halpin of the town of Wicklow, Hotel Keeper do make this my last Will and testament being in Sound memory and understanding but a little weak in my constitution. I first Will myself to Almighty God hoping forgiveness for all my past offences. I first require to be interred in my family Burial ground in the usual manner as all my neighbours are done. I Will and bequeath to my beloved wife Anne Halpin all the interest I have in the five freehold Leases belonging to me namely Travers house, and the house I live in at present at the Bridge, also the two houses and ground in Church Lane built by me, also the stabling yard and concerns on the Murrough built by me, Also the two houses down on the Murrough and Quay of Wicklow.  She managing all to the best advantage by her paying to my son Eaton C. Halpin 5/-, to pay my son George Halpin 5/-, and my son Thomas 5/-, to my son Stopford 5/-, to my son Richard 5/-, to my son John Halpin £10 to put him to a trade, and to my beloved son Robert Halpin £20.  And to pay to Elizabeth Halpin my daughter 5/- and to my daughter Fanny Halpin £30 and to my daughter Louisa Halpin £30  with my request that if she should find herself able after some time She would add to the Girls. All this I leave in her own possession provided she does not get married again. And I leave herself and my son George Halbert Halpin my two execrs to carry this my Will into effect any interest I may have in the house lately occupied by Josiah Hayle (?) Or the Island I hold from the Corporation I leave also to my wife Anne Halpin.
James Halpin
22nd July 1847
Signed and sealed in
The presence of us
David Keely
John Byrne
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 12 October 10 17:33 BST (UK)
The Will should help to clarify the thirteen children of James and Anne Halpin. 

NOTE: The ten children mentioned in the Will were as follows: Eldest was Eliza (Elizabeth), then Eaton Cotter, George Halbert, Thomas James, Stopford William, Richard Mathews, Anne Frances (Fanny), John Augustus, Louisa and the youngest Robert Charles.

I noticed today the thirteen children mentioned by JM Flannery on #117 23rd June 2009. The names I agree with but some of the dates are different to mine so I have removed my dates.

 I will revert on the other three children and all dates when I double check some dates/references.

I hope this is of some help.
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Tuesday 12 October 10 18:30 BST (UK)
Great information for me! Louisa Halpin (Deck) was my great-grandmother. Her son Frank, my grandfather. I have just discovered some records of Louisa's disastrous marriage to Isaiah Deck, yes, a bigamist. My last name should be Deck, but it is Halpin, thanks to Frank. Please get in touch. I am eager to have your sources for all this, and am also interested in information about Louisa'a parents, Rev. Nicholas John Halpin and Ann Graham Halpin, I believe. Looking forward to hearing more. Broker Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 12 October 10 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi Broker Bill,

I'm a little confused by your reference "....about Louisa's parents, Rev. Nicholas John Halpin and Ann Graham Halpin...". The Louisa I've mentioned is daughter of James Halpin and Anne Halbert - not Rev.Nicholas Halpin and Ann Graham. Please clarify.


Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 12 October 10 19:52 BST (UK)

Delighted with your postings, Tavern - will think about what you've had to reveal and get back to you.  Excellent work as usual, Diane - I think the name Anne du Bois might have come from Burke.  I'll check it out when I get home this evening.  It's possible I'm responsible for the "Ann" gaff - if indeed it's a gaff - confusing Ann Grehan, the wife of the Rev N J Halpin, with his mum.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Tuesday 12 October 10 20:15 BST (UK)
Tavern and DCarr: Re: Louisa Halpin (Deck) - 1828-1904. My understanding is that Louisa was the daughter of Nicholas John and Ann Graham Halpin whose other children incuded Nicholas, John, William, Lucy(possibly), Anne (m. J. Wright), Marianne (m. C. Russell) and Charles Graham Halpine - Miles O'Reilly (m. Margaret Gulligan), but this is what i am trying to ascertain. Is it possible that I have generations somehow confused? Many thanks for your input. I need help!

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 13 October 10 01:26 BST (UK)
Broker Bill
Here is the Nicholas John Family as I have recorded it so far, down 3 generations.  Would you care to fill in the Deck/Halpin details, and any others?  That would be welcomed by us all.
Really the whole point of this protracted discussion is to find evidence of the palpable connections between the Nicholas John Halpin family of Portarlington/Meath/Dublin and the James (and other) Halpin families of Wicklow and Dublin.
We know that Louisa, daughter of James of Wicklow, married a Kennedy, and that family has been discussed here in some detail. 
Tavern's supply of the Will is invaluable.  I would welcome Maeve and others identifying the properties referred to in the Will.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Wednesday 13 October 10 01:56 BST (UK)
Broker Bill,

Welcome to the group. Are you descended from John or Murray?

I have Louisa Deck in the same family group as you have listed. There was a Lucy. Lucy and Louisa lived together for some years.  Lucy died at her brother in law John Wright's home.

Have you seen the letter in the New York Times on June 18, 1860 where Isaiah Deck tries to explain his many marriages? It is quite funny.

Diane



Tavern and DCarr: Re: Louisa Halpin (Deck) - 1828-1904. My understanding is that Louisa was the daughter of Nicholas John and Ann Graham Halpin whose other children incuded Nicholas, John, William, Lucy(possibly), Anne (m. J. Wright), Marianne (m. C. Russell) and Charles Graham Halpine - Miles O'Reilly (m. Margaret Gulligan), but this is what i am trying to ascertain. Is it possible that I have generations somehow confused? Many thanks for your input. I need help!


Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 13 October 10 04:59 BST (UK)
Carpenter and builder, of Dublin. Benjamin Eaton. 
See: http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/1723 and http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/1722
Cavan Observer:  June 4, 1864
DEATHS  May 26, at his residence, Lansdowne-road, London, at an advanced age, Benjamin EATON, Esq., formerly of Brighton-terrace, Monkstown.
I believe that he is also in the 1860 London census.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Wednesday 13 October 10 14:55 BST (UK)
Amazing to read the copy of James Halpin's will. I don't know any of the properties mentioned, apart from the Bridge, I hope Maeve does.  I had no idea that he owed so many properties. 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Wednesday 13 October 10 17:02 BST (UK)
Diane and Bill W: Your tree, Bill, is very helpful to me. It seems there are at least two Louisas. One, my great-grandmother died in 1904 in Montclair, NJ (the other died in 1934). Louisa, briefly, was married to Isaiah Deck, and ended up keeping her maiden name. Diane, yes, I have read Deck's account of his marriages and also a correction to some of his assertions, also printed in the NY Times. What a guy!!

Louisa and Isaiah Deck's only child, was my grandfather, Francis Halpin. He married F. Rosalie Tomes. They had three children: F. Murray, Eleanor, and John Hadden (my father). F. Murray married Margaret Merrick and had one child, Tucker, who died as a teen-ager. Eleanor married Stuart Stearns and also had one child, Murray S. Stearns who is still living. John Hadden Halpin married Josephine Roll. They had four children: John H. Jr.; Robert T.; William C. (me), and Sally. John H. Jr., Robert and William are all alive. John Jr. is father to John Hadden Halpin, III who in turn is father to John Hadden Halpin IV, and HE has a son, Austin Halpin.

So, long story short, for me, is that the Rev. Nicholas J. Halpin and Anne Grehem (also Graham) were my great-great grandparents.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Wednesday 13 October 10 21:36 BST (UK)
Dear Bill,

There are a number of entries on familysearch.org and family search beta for an Edward Conrad Halpin born 1870, died 1870, as a son of Nicholas John and Rebecca Halpin.

Any views on this?  The first Edward Halpin died in 1855 and possible a later son was called Edward.  Couldn't find copy of original birth certificate to check if this is right or wrong.

Also the name appears here but with no parents named. http://www.from-ireland.net/extrs/d/dubnorthdeaths1.htm

Yours brian

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Thursday 14 October 10 16:39 BST (UK)
Brian (Tompion). Wish i could help you with this. Nicholas John Halpin (husband of Rebecca Doherty) was my great-grandmother, Louisa's brother - one of many siblings. I am afraid I know nothing of their offspring. Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Thursday 14 October 10 18:24 BST (UK)
....And my greatgrandmother's (Mary Anne Isabella) brother
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Thursday 14 October 10 18:34 BST (UK)
Tompion: Was your greatgrandmother, Mary Anne, married to Charles Russell, whose children included Nini (m. G. King) and Grace (m. J. Smith)?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Thursday 14 October 10 18:45 BST (UK)
Diane: Can you tell me where you found the information about Louisa Deck and her sister Lucy? I haven't been able to find much at all about Louisa (or Lucy), other than the juicy NY Times articles you refer to about Isaiah Deck.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Thursday 14 October 10 18:47 BST (UK)
Dear Bill - No, she was the Mary Anne Halpin who married William David Bradley, a solicitor in Dub lin. I think I should ha ve said she was a daugjher of Nicholas and Re becca Halpin - on train and cannot check tree.  Anyway see my earlier posts. Yours Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Thursday 14 October 10 19:59 BST (UK)

     Delighted to have you on board, BrokerB.  Great to see new sources of information come out of left-field, so to speak.  It can only help clarify the things I try my best to muddy. 

     Tavern's contribution is invaluable.  Old James's bones are aquiring flesh - he was a man of substantial means, it seems. 

     We know the Greggs (who also had property in Wicklow town) married into the Wicklow Halpins (ie married Richard Halpin), and that another Richard Halpin was a Custom House surveyor, living in Howth (1850s), with a few Greggs located in his neighbourhood.  Also employed by Custom House, Dublin, was one N J Halpin, son of the Rev. N J Halpin.  So both Richard and N J Halpin were working as surveyors for the same employer at the same time.  This may be evidence of a social circle at play - uncles pulling strings on behalf of talented nephews, that sort of thing.  I also have a James and Richard Halpin living and working in Dublin one generation earlier - from the early 1800s on.  I know this is a little confusing, so I'll come back to the discussion when I have something of substance to share.  A visit to the archives to recheck what exists there on the Greggs may bear fruit.  Cheers.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 15 October 10 04:23 BST (UK)
Bill, I have entered up your information and attach a brief chart of just Louisa's family down to 4 generations, which is all that will fit on the width of one page, although I have recorded the rest.

Do we think the Lucy that I have recorded as Louisa's sister is actually Louisa?  Was she called Lucy?  I have seen nothing more about a Lucy.  Perhaps I should remove Lucy as a separate child of NJH.  Or perhaps she has been confused with the Lucy Halpin who was a daughter of the younger NJH and who married a Richard Allen.  In either event I think I will remove her.

There were quite few Louisa Halpins in the James and George families but yours is the only one that I have noted in the Nicholas John Families.

Diane and Bill W: Your tree, Bill, is very helpful to me. It seems there are at least two Louisas. One, my great-grandmother died in 1904 in Montclair, NJ (the other died in 1934). Louisa, briefly, was married to Isaiah Deck, and ended up keeping her maiden name. Diane, yes, I have read Deck's account of his marriages and also a correction to some of his assertions, also printed in the NY Times. What a guy!!

Louisa and Isaiah Deck's only child, was my grandfather, Francis Halpin. He married F. Rosalie Tomes. They had three children: F. Murray, Eleanor, and John Hadden (my father). F. Murray married Margaret Merrick and had one child, Tucker, who died as a teen-ager. Eleanor married Stuart Stearns and also had one child, Murray S. Stearns who is still living. John Hadden Halpin married Josephine Roll. They had four children: John H. Jr.; Robert T.; William C. (me), and Sally. John H. Jr., Robert and William are all alive. John Jr. is father to John Hadden Halpin, III who in turn is father to John Hadden Halpin IV, and HE has a son, Austin Halpin.

So, long story short, for me, is that the Rev. Nicholas J. Halpin and Anne Grehem (also Graham) were my great-great grandparents.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Friday 15 October 10 07:38 BST (UK)
Hi,
Nicholas John Halpin and Ann Greham had both a daughter Louisa and a daughter Lucy.

Louisa is on the 1860 census for Ossining, New York, she is a governess with the Brinkerhoff family.  A. Halpin (62), Lucy Halpin(29) and Frank Halpin(6) are together on the 1860 census for Brooklyn, New York.

On the 1870 census for New York, New York Louisa, Frank and Lucy Halpin are all living together. One of the Brinkerhoff children are also lodging with them.

In the Feb 8, 1880  issue of the New York Times there is an obituary for Lucy:
Halpin- On Thursday, Feb 5 at the residence of her brother- in- law J. Wright Esq, Richmond Va. Lucy, eldest daughter of the late Rev Nicholas John Halpin of Dublin Ireland.

On the 1900 census for Montclair, New Jersey ( you can view it on the record search pilot on Family Search) you find Francis Halpin, Rosalie, Eleanor, John H and Mrs Halpin (Louisa) relationship mother.

Many of the names, relationships and places were also referred to it Charles G Halpine's obituary.

Diane


Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Broker Bill on Friday 15 October 10 15:55 BST (UK)
Bill W: Thank you so much for bringing the tree up-to-date. I can add the generations from there on. Very helpful.

Re Lucy: I have a handwritten tree made up some years ago by my Aunt, Eleanor Halpin Stearns. She wrote as follows as to the off-spring of Nicholas John and Ann Grehem (Graham): John; William; son?; son?: Lucy (and here is a note from another cousin which says "where did you dig her up?"); Anne; Louisa; Marianne; Charles Graham.

So, Lucy remains a mystery. Diane, however, refers to her in one of her posts here, and, although I have been unable to find it, says Lucy's obituary appeared in the NY Times. She also seems to have some evidence that Louisa and Lucy lived together at some point. Maybe Diane can help us out here.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 15 October 10 20:02 BST (UK)
Bill - I was reading your speculative list of "IFs"...the lore recalls distillers, engravers, etc.  I've mentioned them all before.  But the more I find out about the various Halpin families the less sure I am of what I've been told.  There really are so many confusing variables that I wonder if we could ever rest satisfied that the links connecting the families were safely proved.  I can certainly produce a few Halpin distillers who are contemporaries of Nicholas, and when those sources are placed alongside others they can be very suggestive.  The lore is fruitful in one respect, and a real distraction in another.  Still'n all - it was right about the connection between your George and the Wicklow Halpins, and many of our recent findings offer tantalising possibilities in regard to the Portarlington link.  Scratch away at the surface, however, and other possibilities soon arise.  It's all a bit frustrating, I'm afraid, and will remain so until I really stack all the references up side by side and have a hard look at them in the cold light of day.  I spoke to an old aunt about the lore - she's been the most level-headed authority I have.  What she said was interesting: she had no idea, of course, if the lore was true.  Our research excited her.  But she urged me to remember that when the revolutionary period in modern Irish history began - roughly from the 1916 Rising through to the Civil War ten years later - many supporters of the Republicans were anxious to acquire some kind of heroic lineage, to give themselves a kudos, I suppose, that others would envy.  The aunt believes that Edwin was very sociable and well liked by young buck Fenians, and there were occasions, she thought, when he must have become a bit of a story-telling braggart, impressing upon his younger listeners his "family's" Republican traditions.  Academics would often attend these get-togethers of would-be revolutionaries, and it is suggested that Edwin might have found out from them at least some of the things that were passed down to us as lore.  So the provenance of some of the stories we were told may have to be taken with a grain of salt.  I only found this out a couple of months ago, and while it doesn't alter our quest for information on our respective relatives, it does introduce a note of caution into the discussion regarding the familial links between all three families.  I'll work harder on getting relevant information to all of you which may help us nail the issue one way or another once and for all.  But it may be the sort of issue we never definitively resolve.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 15 October 10 23:26 BST (UK)
Some of the properties mentioned in the Will of James Halpin 1847.

CONTEXT: I’m assuming that not all contributors to your site are familiar with Wicklow so the detail here might be a little boring for some of you who do know the town.

1.   The Bridge
The Bridge Hotel (now the Bridge Tavern) is situated in Bridge Street, at the bridge which crosses the river Leitrim, just before the river enters the sea.

2.   The two houses in Church Lane
Where James refers to Church Lane we know it as Church Street. The two houses he mentions were houses number 7 and 8 (In Griffith's Valuation). These are the two houses on the corner of Church Street and Woodenbridge Row/Bachelors Walk. Those familiar with the area would recall J. H. McCarroll &Co, Solicitors in number 7 and names such as Staffords, ESB in number 8. Both these houses have undergone many changes in size and use since James’s day but houses numbers 1 to 5 look quite original even today and probably what #7 & 8 would have looked like when built by James.
In Griffith’s valuation (about 1854) both these houses were “Unoccupied” and the Landlord was “Reps of James Halpin”.
Word of caution: It should be pointed out that while Griffith’s documented date might be 1854 the data more than likely was collected much earlier.
Around 1858 the Tenant of #7 was a Rev. John Williams and the Landlord was Frederick Halpin. In #8 was a Mary Roath and the Landlord was also Frederick Halpin.
After Frederick died the new Landlords of #7 became Frances and Louisa Halpin (daughters of James) and a new Tenant , Anne Byrne replaces Rev.Williams, and  Frances and Louisa Halpin moved into  #8.
Frances married David Crawford 16Th June 1862 and records around that time show Louisa living at #8 and  the Tenant of #7 as Brooks Priestley BILBROUGH.
Louisa married William H.H. Kennedy 25 April 1867 and records show around 1882 that #7 had a tenant by the name of Elizabeth Taylor and the Landlords Frances Crawford and Louisa Kennedy.
#8 is now (1882) occupied by William H.H.Kennedy and the landlord is recorded as William H.H.Kennedy
By 1901 the tenant of #7 is a Mrs. Kennedy, tenant of #8 is a Francis Kennedy  and  landlord of both houses is a Mrs.Kennedy.

3.   Island from the Corporation
The area where the river Vartry and river Leitrim meet is called Broad lough or Lake and is now a preserved wildlife sanctuary. The river Leitrim is tidal. In the lake there used to be an island owned by the Town Commissioners of Wicklow .  This Island was leased to James Halpin at the time of his will. In Griffith’s Valuation (about 1854) the Tenant of the Island was George Halpin (James’s son) and the Landlord was The Town Commissioners of Wicklow. It is now no longer an Island and forms part of the general land around Broad Lough north of the new bridge. 
Let me know if this kind of material is of interest and I will follow up on the other properties.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 16 October 10 15:13 BST (UK)
     Can't praise you're contribution enough, Tavern.  I suppose people can "Google Earth" Wicklow town and view the sites you describe - that might be possible with Dublin's Mecklenburgh street (now Railway st) too, a street that features centrally in the lives of George Halpin (of Light house fame) and the Rev. N J Halpin - not forgetting the Bradleys, of course.

     On another matter - in the will of James Halpin, you record a name that interests me: "Josiah Hayle", and you have a question mark after it, as if you're not quite sure of the spelling.  Have a look at the following, and tell me if you think the "Josiah Heale" mentioned in the document could be the name you had trouble with in J Halpin's will:

1846 (504) Return of Joint Stock Companies registered under Act 7 & 8 Victoria, chapter 110 Page 108 of 178.

294 - North Metropolitan Junction Railway Company.

  Registered Directors: James Oliver Lindham, Alexander Prince, William Henry Halpin, Henry Berkley Richardson, Charles Edmund Green, The Hon. Francis Henry Fitzhardinge Berkeley, Rowland Hill Mackenzie, Josiah Heale, Peter Graham, Robert Wright Wood, George Godfrey, Richard Cowley Polhill, Thomas Reginald Kemp.
(HCPP).

If the names are the same, the people they belong to could be the same too - and yet further tantalising evidence of the connection between the Wicklow and Portarlington Halpins, as W H Halpin - if you recall - was the younger brother of the Rev. N J Halpin and the much admired (and emulated?) uncle of Charles G Halpine.  Note the dates, too - only a year apart, and just prior to the collapse of the Railway bubble that ultimately bankrupted W H Halpin.  Cheers for now - and please give me the answer I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Saturday 16 October 10 17:47 BST (UK)
Hi Raycmh,

I've had another look at the copy of the Will. The difficulty I am having is with the first letter. The ?ayle is perfectly clear. I'm not sure if the first letter is a "T" or a "H" but am leaning to the H.

Regards,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 16 October 10 19:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Tavern - so it's possible that one is a phonetic variation of the other, that the difference between the two is due to a scribe's interpretation of a surname he's heard rather than seen.  There's not a lot we can do with the thing at this moment, though - all we can do is file it away and keep an eye out for clarification from other sources.

     There's something else I'd like people to consider - one of the names at the bottom of James Halpin's will is "David Keely".  When I first read that name I began racking my brains trying to remember where I'd seen it before.  A day later it occurred to me out of the blue - cast your mind back to Reply 246 (Tues. 13 July 2010) on the previous thread.  There you will find an extract from Thomas Mathew Halpin's Disclosure Connected With The Late State Prosecutions In Ireland..., in which he cites testimony from his father-in-law, James Keely.  Not the David Keely named in James Halpin's will, but a Keely nonetheless.  Idiosyncratically spelled surnames that coincide in this context suggest to me that chance is not at work here, but something more significant.

     I was often told that over the years the Halpins parted ways on account of strong political differences.  There were many opportunities for differences between family members to arise - the terrible events in 1798, for instance, in which 30,000 died and a James and William Halpin, "distillers", were described by a Castle spy as being particularly virulent United Irishmen and prominent in the unsuccessful attempt to save Robert Emmet from the gallows in 1803; the Young Ireland Rising in 1848 (in which T M Halpin features above); the Fenian Rising in 1867, featuring Gen. William G Halpin, and of course the 1916 Rising, involving my own immediate family.  So, given an albeit tenuous link between surnames, it's not out of the question that the Halpin and Keely mentioned in James' will, were related to the Halpin and Keely mentioned in the "Disclosure..." - these links may suggest strong sympathies for the political vision of the Society of United Irishmen.  I've touched on this question before and I'll ask it again here - what was James Halpin, father of Captain R C Halpin, doing with himself around the time of the execution of Robert Emmet? 
     
     Something else to keep in mind, I suppose.

     Finally - does anyone know anything about James Halpin's son Thomas?  You'll note the continuing repetition of names, I hope.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 10:17 BST (UK)
Captain Thomas J Halpin married Mary Ann Dillan, daughter of Thomas Buckly, on 18 April 1854 at Powerscourt Co Wicklow (he'd have been about 33) and he died 02 June 1878 at Monastery House Enniskerry.  I think the only other mention we have of him is from you, Ray, when he accompanied or was present at an official visit to Wicklow by someone I forget.  "Capt Tho J Halpin died June 2nd 1878 | aged 56 years" is inscribed at the James Halpin burial enclosure in Wicklow.

     Finally - does anyone know anything about James Halpin's son Thomas?  You'll note the continuing repetition of names, I hope.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 10:43 BST (UK)
Captain Frederick Halpin is also inscribed in the burial plot as James Halpin's nephew and the big question is, who was his father?  Was he the one who challenged a will?  And why would he be the landlord of these properties in preference to any of James's children?  I am hoping for someone to inspect records in London about Frederick's maritime apprenticeship.  He qualified as a Class 3 Master in examinations by Trinity House London on Oct 29 1849.
And who is Frances Halpin?  I have not seen James to have had a daughter Frances.  Can you tell me more please?  I am intrigued.

Around 1858 the Tenant of #7 was a Rev. John Williams and the Landlord was Frederick Halpin. In #8 was a Mary Roath and the Landlord was also Frederick Halpin.
After Frederick died the new Landlords of #7 became Frances and Louisa Halpin (daughters of James) and a new Tenant , Anne Byrne replaces Rev.Williams, and  Frances and Louisa Halpin moved into  #8.
Frances married David Crawford 16Th June 1862 and records around that time show Louisa living at #8 and  the Tenant of #7 as Brooks Priestley BILBROUGH.
Louisa married William H.H. Kennedy 25 April 1867 and records show around 1882 that #7 had a tenant by the name of Elizabeth Taylor and the Landlords Frances Crawford and Louisa Kennedy.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Sunday 17 October 10 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi BillW,

"Frances" is "Fanny" in the Will and was named Anne Frances at birth. See my comment on the Will  in Reply#40 above.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 12:28 BST (UK)
I really missed that.  So she married David Crawford 16th June 1862.  Any children?  Do we know anything about him and his family?  There is a very, very good reason for asking.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 12:50 BST (UK)
Diane, thanks, I have noted all your additions.  Who was brother-in-law J. Wright in Richmond?  Bill, re your aunt's tree, she notes more children of NJH than in my tree and in a different order.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Sunday 17 October 10 15:04 BST (UK)
     What follows may prove to be a very significant find, since it goes some way toward confirming the family lore – that political differences which began with the 1798 rebellion account for a split in the Halpin family between those in favour of the actions (or aspirations) of the United Irishmen and those opposed to them.
 
     At a place called “The Ponds” – situated in Rathfarnam, co. Dublin – during the 1798 rising, a party of insurgents led by David Keely, James Byrne, Edward Keogh and a chap called Ledwich, was attacked by the local yeomanry.  A number of insurgents were killed or wounded in the skirmish and Keogh and Ledwich were taken into custody.  Keely and the others retreated and joined forces with another party of insurgents from Clondalkin.  Together they regrouped at the turnpike on Rathcoole road and there gave a good account of themselves – repulsing a corps of Yeomanry that may have been led by Lord Ely.

     David Keely and "John" Byrne were witnesses to James Halpin's will. 
     
     I think these ‘links’ deserve to be considered carefully, since they seem to suggest that the James Halpin of Tavern’s will may well be one of the Halpin’s mentioned as a distilling insurgent by Dublin Castle.  I’ll run with the idea for a bit and return to the discussion when I have more to report – cheers.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 21:31 BST (UK)
At the online site Irish Genealogy (http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html), there are a limited number of entries from the registers of ST THOMAS Church of Ireland in Dublin, which was for at least some of the time the family church of George Halpin and William Henry Halpin the elder, and perhaps others.  I am told that its records that survive are in bad condition.  There are no St Thomas burial records on view at this site, a large gap from about 1800 to about 1840 in the marriage records and a very small number of baptisms.  I have extracted the following marriages relating to names discussed here, up to nearly 1900.  All included records have been photographed and can be viewed at the site.  There were quite a few other Kennedy entries that I did not recognise.

12 May 1791   Charles SWEENY  to Susanna Grace Ould   
14 Mar 1794   Edward Mathews to Jane BROWNRIG   
03 Apr 1794   James DELANY  to Catherine Warner   
16 Jul 1793   Thomas Carry to Mary GORE      
02 Mar 1797   Vernon Lovett to Jane GORE      
30 Apr 1795   Isaac Eades  to HELLEN HALPIN   
12 Nov 1799   HUGH KENNEDY Esq  to Grace Dorothea Hughes   
14 Jan 1800   James Knox to Louisa GORE   
04 Mar 1851   Thomas Orr to ANNE HALPIN both of 26 Lr Rutland St
02 Aug 1849   Edward SWEENY to Eliza Wells   both of 26  Mabbot St
09 Nov 1866   Arthur H Reed of 15 Upper Sackville St to Eliza Jane SWENY of Heathville Monkstown
13 Jul 1859   Joseph Manning to Jane EATON both of 23 Upper Sackville St Witnesses John H Eaton and George Eaton
07 Aug 1860   Charles J Swete of Epsom Surrey to Frances SWEENY of 58 Summer Hill
04 Jun 1840    Richard Edward EATON to Louisa Lowther
19 Jun 1841   Thomas Fowler Gerrard to Amelia SWEENY both of Kilsaner Witness James Sweeny
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 17 October 10 22:20 BST (UK)
As Ray pointed out to me privately, St Thomas's was at the top of Gloucester Street where it now meets O'Connell Street, adjacent to Mecklenburgh and other streets involved with the Dublin family.  George Halpin had developed some of the streets east of here and I noted in these records an unrelated family living in Oswald Terrace, Lower Oriel Street.  This would have been named for George's son Oswald Halpin who went off at a very young age to serve in the East India Company forces and was killed near Bombay.  The name Oswald comes somewhat out of left field, as the American saying goes, and I can only think that it must be a possible link to George's wife Elizabeth's family, surname as yet unknown.
Another street name mentioned, interestingly, is Gregg's Lane.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 18 October 10 04:49 BST (UK)
It may be timely to re-list here the following, which relates to Tavern’s information on Frederick Halpin being succeeded by (Anne) Frances and Louisa to property in Church Street:

3-5-1859 Irish Times. (For County Wicklow).
Court of Probate--April 30th.
Before the Right Hon. Judge Keatinge.
Halpin V. Halpin.
In this case there was an examination of witnesses to prove the due execution of a will made by the late Mr. Frederick Halpin, hotel keeper, of the town of Wicklow, leaving his property in equal shares to his two nieces. The will was impeached by the next of kin on the grounds that it was not executed according to the statute.
Mr. Clarke, Q.C. and Mr. Murphy appeared to sustain the will, and Dr. Ball. Q.C. for the next of kin. The attesting witnesses being sworn and examined, his Lordship established the will and granted probate. Solicitors for the Plaintiff--Mr. Littledale. For the Defendant---Messrs Hone and Kinahan.

I have wondered here before if (Captain) Frederick, for whatever reason, took over the hotel on James’ death in 1847.  But we did not know before that his property in probate involved houses also previously owned by James.  It was not to be known in advance that Frederick himself would die so young (36), so under normal circumstances he would have been expected to own these properties for many more years.  And who were his next of kin, if not his two nieces?  Might title records show more?

Some of the properties mentioned in the Will of James Halpin 1847.

Around 1858 the Tenant of #7 was a Rev. John Williams and the Landlord was Frederick Halpin. In #8 was a Mary Roath and the Landlord was also Frederick Halpin.
After Frederick died the new Landlords of #7 became Frances and Louisa Halpin (daughters of James) and a new Tenant , Anne Byrne replaces Rev.Williams, and  Frances and Louisa Halpin moved into  #8.
Frances married David Crawford 16Th June 1862 and records around that time show Louisa living at #8 and  the Tenant of #7 as Brooks Priestley BILBROUGH.
Louisa married William H.H. Kennedy 25 April 1867 and records show around 1882 that #7 had a tenant by the name of Elizabeth Taylor and the Landlords Frances Crawford and Louisa Kennedy.
#8 is now (1882) occupied by William H.H.Kennedy and the landlord is recorded as William H.H.Kennedy
By 1901 the tenant of #7 is a Mrs. Kennedy, tenant of #8 is a Francis Kennedy  and  landlord of both houses is a Mrs.Kennedy.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Monday 18 October 10 14:50 BST (UK)
I wondered if the Church Lane in James will was present day Church Street, very interesting to see that he owned McCarrols house.   Regarding the hotel and Frederick Halpin, I once met Tilly O'Toole nee halpin, she told me that her two Aunts ran the Marine Hotel on the Murrough, so I am sure that is the hotel mentioned, not the Bridge.  I am not sure what the Marine Hotel is now., though when I was a child I seem to remember that it was a holiday home for Dublin children.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 21 October 10 23:18 BST (UK)
More about The Bridge.............

As stated in the Will of James in 1847 one of his properties was The Bridge Hotel. “...all the interest I have in the five freehold Leases.... the house I live in at present at the Bridge.....

 According to Griffith’s Valuation (about 1854) the Tenants of the Bridge Hotel were the ‘Reps of James Halpin’ The Landlord is recorded as the ‘Town Coms of Wicklow’.
Records of 1858-9 show Frederick Halpin as the Tenant and the Landlord as the Town Commissioners.

It appears Frances Halpin was managing the Hotel at this time as the following advert appeared in the Wicklow Newsletter of July 24th 1858:

Halpin’s Bridge Hotel
Wicklow.
Established A.D. 1765
Comfortable accommodation can be had at the above Hotel on reasonable terms.
F.Halpin, Proprietress


Frederick died in February 1859 and the following advert appeared in the Wicklow Newsletter on Saturday May 7th 1859:

County of Wicklow
To be LET by the year or for a term of years, The Bridge Hotel, Wicklow.
This Hotel is in the most perfect order, is in a healthy locality, and good business position, and within a few minutes walk of the Railway Terminus, and from its connections and other advantages, so good an opportunity rarely occurs to parties embarking in the above line of business; immediate possession will be given, and the furniture at valuation if required. Also to be LET a store house and yard on the Quay.
For full particulars, apply to W.F.Littledale, Esq., 9 Upper Ormonde-Quay, Dublin;
 George Halpin, Esq., Wicklow or Mr. Henry Mac Phail, Auctioneer & Valuator, Wicklow.


This advert was continued throughout May, June and July with this added line to the advertisement from June 4th:
***Business is carried on in the Hotel as usual.

The following appeared in the Wicklow News-Letter on Saturday September 24th 1859:

The Bridge Hotel, Wicklow
(Late Halpin’s)
Richard Marshall, Proprietor of the Wicklow & Wexford Hotel, South Anne Street, Dublin, begs to announce that he has taken the Bridge Hotel, Wicklow, which has undergone extensive alterations & improvements and having fitted it up in the greatest manner, he trusts all those who desire the comforts of a well regulated Hotel will give him their support.
Cars, carriages and post horses, large coach houses and stables.
Richard Marshall proprietor.


The records show Richard Marshall as the Tenant and Frances and Louisa Halpin as the Landlord. (1859 to about 1864).
Records of the mid eighteen sixties show the Hotel as Vacant and the Landlords as Frances and Louisa Halpin.
The late seventies/early eighties show the Tenant as a John Wynne and the Landlords as Frances Crawford and Louisa Kennedy.
It was again Vacant in the mid 1880s and a Bernard Flanagan followed by a Thomas Murphy were the Tenants during the 1890’s with Frances and Louisa still the immediate Landlords.
Around the turn of the century a William M. Byrne is shown as the Tenant and The Town Commissioners of Wicklow as the Landlord. (See Census of 1901, Bridge Street, Wicklow Urban, William Martin Byrne, Hotel Keeper). The 1911 Census shows the same Tenant, William Byrne running the Hotel.

Hope this is of interest.
More anon.
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 22 October 10 22:42 BST (UK)
How the death of Captain Frederick Halpin was reported locally:

From the Wicklow News-letter dated Saturday March 5th 1859

At Wicklow aged 36 years, Captain Frederick Halpin.
We record the death of this fine young man with no ordinary feelings of sorrow; in our social position we regret him as a true friend and obliging neighbour, in him the working man will lose a constant and liberal employer and the poor a benevolent and unostentatious giver; few men of his age had travelled more or seen as much of the world. The torrid zone of India, the temperance of New Zealand, and the frigid of Iceland, were all familiar and alike to him, and we regret he has not left behind him some manuscript of record of his travels, as they would be not only entertaining but full of information.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 23 October 10 16:45 BST (UK)

Tremendous work, Tavern.  Really first rate.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Sunday 24 October 10 03:30 BST (UK)
I was googling Nicholas John Halpin & India and came across a website selling medals. They had one for Nicholas John Halpin, who I believe is the son of Nicholas John Halpin and Rebecca Doherty.

Surgeon N.J.Halpin  Bengal Medical Department  born 1851 . Tragically killed by a fall from a horse at Arrah, India in October 1882.  The medal is selling for 600 pounds, hard to believe! It gives us a date for his death.

Diane
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 24 October 10 04:56 BST (UK)
Diane, I think this is the same man that was part of Ray's original family tree at about page 1 or 2 of the first list.  He somehow gave the exact date of birth, 12 Sept 1851 and the qualifications ICS, which is for a surveyor.  There needs to be some sorting out.  Maybe he became a doctor as well as a surveyor.  Did he go to Trinity College?  Was he the one Ray referred to as the noted orientalist?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 24 October 10 05:07 BST (UK)
I have come across a curious duplication of names that has to make some of us wonder.  Earlier, Ken drew attention to:
John Halpin, who married Jane Stamer at St Peter's on 18.8.1786 was the bookseller (& libeller).
I can't find the page now, I think it must be from the Oxford DNB:
John Halpin,  bookseller, 55 Henry St 1786-1795, Sackville St 1796-1810, mar. Aug.1786 Jane, dau of late Thomas Stamer of Co Clare. Will proved 1811, succeeded by wife, Jane. [Reply #203 on: Tuesday 19 January 10]
Browsing for something completely different I have found the following:
At Clontarf, near Dublin, F.H. Halpin, esq. E.I.C. to Caroline, dau. of Sir W. Stamer, Bart.    [Gentleman's Magazine Dec 1830. Marriage 12 Nov 1830 ]
Was this FH Halpin related to John Halpin and was Caroline related to Jane?  Who was FH Halpin?  The only Frederick Halpins that I am aware of were Frederick James Halpin, school proprietor of Sandymount , his son Frederick Webster Halpin and Captain Frederick Halpin of Wicklow.  The last was probably too young and not known to have been with the East India Company.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Sunday 24 October 10 08:27 BST (UK)
Bill,

Captain John Halpin was born July 3, 1805 and died November 30, 1848 in Berhampore, India. His obituary states he was a surveyor and Orientalist.  His obituary was in the Anglo-Celt.

Nicholas John Halpin B.A., M.B., B.Ch., M.D.1879, T.C.D. Surgeon 1876, L.K.Q.C.P. 1881 That was the education listed on the piece about his medal.

Diane




Diane, I think this is the same man that was part of Ray's original family tree at about page 1 or 2 of the first list.  He somehow gave the exact date of birth, 12 Sept 1851 and the qualifications ICS, which is for a surveyor.  There needs to be some sorting out.  Maybe he became a doctor as well as a surveyor.  Did he go to Trinity College?  Was he the one Ray referred to as the noted orientalist?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Sunday 24 October 10 15:41 BST (UK)
                                                                                                 The Marine Hotel, Wicklow and the Halpin connection.

 Griffith’s Valuation:  Corporation Murragh, County of Wicklow, Parish of Rathnew, (Ord. S.25) No. 1.a  TENANT Wicklow Loan Fund Society. IMMEDIATE LESSORS Town Commissioners of Wicklow.
 This loan Fund Society built a Technical-Trades School on this site on the Murrough in the 1840’s for the local children which lasted into the 1850s.
The building was then converted into an Hotel by ”The  Wicklow Railway Hotel Co.” and was opened  in 1858. It lasted as an Hotel until about 1879.
It's location is on the east side of the river Leitrim and about 300 yards from the Bridge Hotel.


The Wicklow Newsletter of July 24th 1858 had the following notice, on its front page:

Wicklow Races on the 27th and 28th July instant
Opening of the new hotel, Wicklow.
Wicklow Railway Hotel Company
(Limited).

This hotel situated in the centre of the race course, on the Murragh of Wicklow, will open for business on TUESDAY, the 27Th instant, under the superintendence of Mrs. Goodland, whose experience in Hotel arrangements is a sufficient guarantee that the comfort of visitors will be attended to.
A choice and various selection of Wines, of the most approved brands, have been secured for this Establishment.
Rooms will be set apart for dining, where dinner can be had at any hour throughout the days of races.

By Order:
ROBERT HALPIN, Sec.
July 24, 1858.

F.Halpin the proprietress of Halpins Bridge Hotel wrote to the editor of the “Wicklow Newsletter”, which was also published on the front page, on the same day, as follows:

Sirs,- I beg to contradict a puff advertisement which has often appeared in your paper and which was evidently calculated to mislead the public. There is more than one hotel contiguous to the railway terminus and in each hotel there is much more accommodation than they have demand for. The Bridge Hotel is within a few hundred yards of the railway terminus and has extensive accommodation. It is kept by members of the same family who kept it a century ago and who are not in any way related or connected with the party whose signature has so often been appended to that very appropriate advertisement, ‘The Limited Company’.
I am sir, your obedient,
F.Halpin
P.S. The Green Tree Hotel is also within a short distance of the terminus.

NOTE: F. Halpin is saying that the Halpins of the Bridge are NOT related to the Robert Halpin, Secretary of the Wicklow Railway Hotel Co. Limited.
The Marine today (2010) is an “Educate Together” National School. It opened as such in September 2003.
 During the 1950’s and 1960’s the Rathdrum Sisters of Mercy used to bring the children in their care on holidays to the Marine.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Sunday 24 October 10 16:09 BST (UK)

     That's a brilliant find, Tavern - and very telling.  Naturally, it contradicts what I've been led to believe.  I don't know what to say. 
     As far as the general point of the site goes - to locate information on the three (?) branches of the Halpin family, and to connect them wherever and whenever possible - the information you've uncovered changes nothing.  It simply suggests that I have plenty to think about, which should not distract or deter anyone else from making further contributions to the forum. 
     The power of lore is very convincing, and I'll admit to being a little deflated by Mrs. F Halpin's stroppy dissociation from the Wicklow Town Clerk. 
     Bloody hell - what am I going to tell the relatives?
 
 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Sunday 24 October 10 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi Bill,

I am not sure if Frederick was related to John or Caroline to Jane but I have some information on Frederick Horatio Halpen.

He was on the 1841 census for Greenwich , Kent, gives his occupation as banker . On his children's baptisms he is said to be the manager of the London and County Bank. Caroline died December 1, 1840 in Greenwich as did 3 or 4 of his children. He married again to Eliza Sarah Wolfenden.  From the 1851 census to his death in 1877 he resided in Birkenhead, Cheshire. On the 1851 census his occupation is Pensioner R I C and shipping.  His children were born in Bristol, Kent, Liverpool and Birkenhead.
 
It seems to rule him out for our Fredericks.

Diane

I have come across a curious duplication of names that has to make some of us wonder.  Earlier, Ken drew attention to:
John Halpin, who married Jane Stamer at St Peter's on 18.8.1786 was the bookseller (& libeller).
I can't find the page now, I think it must be from the Oxford DNB:
John Halpin,  bookseller, 55 Henry St 1786-1795, Sackville St 1796-1810, mar. Aug.1786 Jane, dau of late Thomas Stamer of Co Clare. Will proved 1811, succeeded by wife, Jane. [Reply #203 on: Tuesday 19 January 10]
Browsing for something completely different I have found the following:
At Clontarf, near Dublin, F.H. Halpin, esq. E.I.C. to Caroline, dau. of Sir W. Stamer, Bart.    [Gentleman's Magazine Dec 1830. Marriage 12 Nov 1830 ]
Was this FH Halpin related to John Halpin and was Caroline related to Jane?  Who was FH Halpin?  The only Frederick Halpins that I am aware of were Frederick James Halpin, school proprietor of Sandymount , his son Frederick Webster Halpin and Captain Frederick Halpin of Wicklow.  The last was probably too young and not known to have been with the East India Company.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 25 October 10 01:09 BST (UK)
Tavern, does any evidence confirm F(rances) Halpin's allegation that the Bridge Hotel "is kept by members of the family who kept it a century ago" (i.e. the 1750s)?  Is this Halpin family in any local church or other records that may exist from that far back? 
One of my theories (naturally enough seeking confirmation or rejection) has been that James (and William?) Halpin had come from elsewhere to Wicklow, possibly through marriage or other alliance to any of the Halbert, Eaton or Cotter families who did have roots in Wicklow.
William Halpin who, from his declaration of age, was born about 1777, declared in the 1861 England Census that he was born in Wicklow but this may have been made by his son and daughter with whom he was living.  I have seen evidence that some of his children were baptised in Wicklow around the turn of the century.
I suppose it is possible to construe Frances Halpin's allegation as being that the hotel had been in her mother's family from that far back.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 25 October 10 05:12 BST (UK)
Three years after Frances Halpin's efforts above, as Tavern showed, she married.  The marriage was at St Anne's C of I in Dublin and the record can be viewed at the free site: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/d-344-3-3-114.pdf.
It shows that her husband, DAVID CRAWFORD, was a widower in the 'Merchant Service’, son of HUGH CRAWFORD, occupation merchant.  It is recorded that they both resided at 34 St (or Sth) Anne St. (Dublin) and that her father was James Halpin, hotel keeper.  She is recorded as Frances Anne and signs herself Fanny.  Witnesses were John Clements and R Morrison.  Fanny was about 35.
We have seen posted here recently by Ray from HCPP records of voter registrations that together in the Dublin Corporation of Carpenters at the one time (1830) were: Battersby, Brownrigg (2), Cotter (2), Crosthwaite, Eaton (2), George Halpin and William Halpin with a William GORE.  The majority of these families have connections with Wicklow.
Married five years earlier than Fanny and David Crawford, at St Peter C of I Dublin in 1857, were William Jamieson Esq of Co Cavan to Elizabeth GORE of 20 Rathmines Rd, widow, daughter of HUGH CRAWFORD Esq.  So that is Elizabeth Crawford, presumably a sister of David Crawford, who had been married to a Gore. 
There are also scanty Dublin C of I records of a Hugh Crawford as early as the mid 1700s, a name that got carried on.
To round off this dissertation is to wonder why, of seven known children born to WILLIAM HALPIN, only the last was given more than one Christian name and that full name was ROBERT CRAWFORD HALPIN, born Antwerp, or France, about 1816.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Thursday 28 October 10 16:43 BST (UK)
Iwas interested to see that the Marine Hotel was set near Wicklow Rscecourse, my Grandmother always used to tell me there was once a racecourse, but I am ashamed to say I never believed her!  Sorry Granny! 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 02 November 10 18:41 GMT (UK)
A few comments /observations on the last few postings:

1.   David Crawford and Frances Halpin were living in South Anne Street, Dublin at the time of their wedding in 1862. The Bridge Hotel was Let in 1859 to Richard Marshall  who was of the Wicklow & Wexford Hotel also South Anne Street, Dublin?

2.   According to the Reg. Of Deeds, 1866,  David Crawford was “of Ardrossan in the county of Ayr" – Merchants.


3.   Interesting why George Halpin is one of the contact names for the sale of the Lease on the Bridge and not Frances or Louisa?


More anon
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 02 November 10 23:33 GMT (UK)
This is likely Dr George Halbert Halpin, elder brother of Frances and Louisa, rather than George Halpin in Dublin.


3.   Interesting why George Halpin is one of the contact names for the sale of the Lease on the Bridge and not Frances or Louisa?

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 03 November 10 00:37 GMT (UK)
Tavern, would the registry of deeds record who had the Bridge Hotel in the decades leading up to James Halpin marrying Anne Halbert in 1814?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 03 November 10 02:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill,
The Registry of Deeds started in 1708 so it should show something. I am searching these deeds at present and have found some interesting items to report such as "Marriage settlements" of Halpin V. Kennedy etc. but nothing yet about the Bridge pre 1800.
I will continue my search and report back on my findings.
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 03 November 10 03:19 GMT (UK)
Very valuable work and results, Tavern.  Almost all these Halpins had property and should be mentioned in title records and deeds.  Most property that we have encountered in and around Wicklow seems to have been leased from either the Wicklow Corporation (if that is ther right term) or the Wentworth Estate.  Is it known if the Wentworth Estate papers or archives survive?
There may be some at Sheffield Archives [see: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=199-wwm1_3&cid=0#0]
It is frustrating to be so far away.  This is research I would love to help with.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 03 November 10 20:06 GMT (UK)
                                                                                                      Registry of Deeds

Of interest to those of you unable to visit the Registry of Deeds in Dublin:

The Registry of Deeds was established under an Act of Parliament in 1708. It holds the following types of deeds:

Conveyances of freehold property
Assignment of leases
Mortgages
Marriage settlements
Wills

Have a look at this online project:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~registryofdeeds/index.html

The project has hardly scratched the surface yet in terms of numbers of records and doesn’t give as much information as held in the originals but the few records that have been indexed are helpful and hopefully will grow in the future.
As luck would have it there are a few Halpin and Halpen records on this site so have a look.

Hope you find it useful,

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 04 November 10 18:35 GMT (UK)
Further clarification/confirmation on the beneficiaries of Frederick Halpin’s Will from the Index of Wills at The National Archives, Dublin. Unfortunately it looks like the actual Will was destroyed.


                                                                    Frederick Halpin 3rd May 1859 effects under £7,000
Letter of Administration (with the Will annexed) of the personal estate of Frederick Halpin late of Wicklow, Esquire deceased who died 27th February 1859 at same place were granted at the Principal Registry to Frances Halpin and Louisa Halpin both of The Bridge Hotel Wicklow Spinsters the Universal Legatees. By Decree.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Saturday 06 November 10 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi BillW,

Further to your questions on the Crawford family:

“So she married David Crawford 16th June 1862.  Any children?  Do we know anything about him and his family?  There is a very, very good reason for asking.”

You have shown this marriage in #86 on page 6 above.

•   I have found  in the Registry of Deeds dated 1866  File 23  a Memorial :  Number 290, titled

                                                               Crawford to Crawford

It is quite long so I will not post all of it on this site (unless you think it is useful). Here is the introduction:

A memorial of a Deed dated Twenty second of July eighteen hundred and sixty six made between David Crawford of Ardrossan in the county of Ayr – Merchants and Frances Crawford otherwise Halpin his wife of the first part.  George Halbert Halpin of Wicklow M.D. and Revill  Clements of Coolawinna Esquire both in the county of Wicklow of the second part and John Crawford of Ardrossan aforesaid Merchant and Shipowner and Richard Marshall of South Anne St in the City of Dublin Hotel Keeper of the third part.

From this memorial we can see David Crawford is from Scotland.

Looking up the 1881 UK Census on  http://search.ancestry.co.uk/

WE find Fanny Crawford, born in Ireland (Aged 51) and David Crawford Retired Captain (Mercht Service, Aged 61) living at 3 Quarry Lane Clyde View Cottage, Ardrossan, Ayrshire.
There is a son Bertie Crawford ( 9 ).

In the 1891 Census there is a Bertie C. Crawford (Aged 19) as a Law Apprentice, lodging at 60 Elmbank Street, Glasgow. (Born in Ardrossan, Ayrshire).

Hope this is of interest,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 07 November 10 02:43 GMT (UK)
It is all of interest, thank you Tavern, but as far as I am concerned, you have gone far enough.  None of this, unfortunately, has shed any light on why William Halpin named his last son Robert Crawford Halpin.  So we can put that on the back burner.

The mention of Coolawinna is interesting as it was the home of Cotters.  On Pages 6 and 8 of the previous thread I brought attention to this.  Two excerpts:

Names and Residences of Gentry.  Proceeding from Bray by Sea Road.  (Just before Wicklow) Coalawiney, Eaton Cotter, Esq.  [A Guide to the County of Wicklow by G. N. Wright, 1827, p.172. ]

The principal seats are.... and Coolawinney, of R. Cotter, Esq. It is a rectory, in the diocese of Dublin and Glendalough, forming part of the union and corps of the prebend of Wicklow in the cathedral of St. Patrick, Dublin: the tithes amount to £377. 1. 6 1/2.  [From:  A Topographical dictionary of Ireland by Samuel Lewis, 1837.  Freely available at http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/n.php]

Is the Revill Clements of Coolawinna mentioned in this 1866 deed with members of the Halpin family related to or a descendant of the Cotter family, remembering that Frances and George Halbert's eldest brother was named Eaton Cotter Halpin?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 08 November 10 02:43 GMT (UK)
Ray, have you come across this article on Dublin breweries: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tNaklN3XkzAJ:www.breweryhistory.com/journal/archive/114/bh-114-002.html+%22halpin+henry+grattan%22&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au
It is by a Thomas B Halpin in 1988.  Any idea who he is and might he have a particular interest in brewing and distilling Halpins?
Names mentioned are Sweetman, Crawford, Henry Grattan, Guiness and others.
I quote one sentence: 'Grattan was both a brilliant orator and a skilful parliamentarian who managed to have the excise charges (on beer only) repealed in 1793. The basic reason behind this measure was to reduce the excessive consumption of cheap spirits and indeed to encourage beer drinking in Ireland.'
Was this successful?!
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Monday 08 November 10 19:49 GMT (UK)
More from The Registry of Deeds.....

                                                                                  Year 1856       FILE no: 7    Memorial No; 273

...............This writing is a memorial stated that Mountefort Longfield L.L.B. and the right honourable John Richards one of the Barons of Her Majesty’s Court of Exchequer in Ireland two of the Commissioners for Sale of Incumbered Estates in Ireland under the Authority of an Act passed in the Thirteenth year of the Reign of Queen Victoria intitled “An act further to facilitate the sale and transfer of Incumbered Estates in Ireland, and of the Acts for continuing and amending same.”
....In consideration of the sum of one thousand five hundred pounds by Frederick Halpin  of Kingstown  in the County of Dublin, Gentleman paid into the Bank of Ireland to their account, to the credit of the Estate of the executors  of Anne Halpin owner ex parte John Wesley and other petitioners, did grant unto the said Frederick Halpin......
......The Bridge of Wicklow then late in the possession of Elizabeth Halpin deceased and then in the possession of the said James Halpin.......


NOTES:
1.   The Encumbered Estates Acts facilitated the sale of Irish estates whose owners, because of the Great Famine, were unable to meet their obligations. An Encumbered Estates Court was set up with authority to sell estates on the application of the owner or a person who had a claim on the estate. After the sale, the court distributed the money among the creditors and granted clear title to the new owners. The existing tenants were unprotected by the legislation. So it appears the estate of Anne Halpin was unable to meet its obligations. John Wesley appears to be one of the persons with a claim against the estate and Frederick Halpin bought the estate from the Court for £1,500. The sale took place at the Registry of Deeds, Henrietta Street, Dublin, where I’m sitting writing this.!!!.

2.   Frederick Halpin was living in Kingstown, County Dublin in 1856. (Now Dún Laoghaire). He obviously moved to Wicklow when he bought the Halpin Estate and died there three years later.(1859).


3.   The statement above re Elizabeth Halpin, goes some of the way to answering the question “When did James Halpin come to Wicklow ? It states his mother was “in possession” of the Bridge before James. So James was not the first Halpin to own the Bridge.

More anon,
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Monday 08 November 10 20:35 GMT (UK)
                                                                                           More on FREDERICK HALPIN
Food for thought.......

Now that we know that FREDERICK HALPIN, Gentleman, was living in Dún Laoghaire in 1856, could he be the same Frederick James Halpin, Gentleman, whose son FREDERICK WEBSTER HALPIN was baptised in MARINERS CHURCH, in Dún Laoghaire, Co.Dublin (Church of Ireland).  On The 24th January 1855.

And if so was it someone on behalf of  four year old FREDERICK WEBSTER ("next of Kin" ) who challenged the Will in 1859 of FREDERICK ?

Regards,
Tavern


Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 08 November 10 20:48 GMT (UK)
Wow, Tavern, what a pregnant find.  A number of thoughts arise to me, and no doubt to others, and probably more will arise as we digest this.
1)  Perhaps most importantly, because we want most to find the origins of these people, is who was Elizabeth Halpin and who was her husband???  If we (you!) could find deeds to do with her husband's death or her inheritance of the Bridge, that would be a quantum leap back a generation.
2)  Why did Frederick have to buy out the estate?  In 1856, Anne Halpin had more than enough sons established in professions or at sea to be able to afford to not see the whole family go bankrupt.  For my part, I feel sure that George in Dublin would have helped.  So why Frederick, who we are told by the burial inscription, was James' nephew?  And why did he leave the hotel (and his entire estate?) to Fanny and Louisa, and to no others?
3)  Frederick, as a sea captain, may have been based in Kingstown, a deep sea port.  I am sure it is mere coincidence but it needs to be recorded that there was another Fredrick Halpin in Kingstown at the same time, Frederick James Halpin, youngest brother of the Rev NJ Halpin, who conducted a private school there.
Most grateful for this excellent research, Tavern.  Please keep it up as long as you can.  I suppose that you are adding these details to that excellent online project you advised of earlier (put together by an Aussie, it seems).
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Tuesday 09 November 10 09:11 GMT (UK)
I wonder what Elizebeth's name was before she marrried. it sounds as though the Bridge could have been in her family and came into the Halpins through her marriage.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Saturday 13 November 10 10:02 GMT (UK)
                                                Another look at Church Records 12th November 2010

A James HALBERT married Mary REVELL 30th Aug 1795 in Wicklow Town(COI)
(Bill, Remember REVELL Clements in #95 above Crawford to Crawford?)

An Ann HALBERT was born to James and Mary HALBERT 9th January 1797, Wicklow Town (COI).

With no other Ann HALBERT born around this time I would be confident this is the Ann who married James HALPIN. (This would leave her 18 when she married).

James HALPIN and Ann HALBERT married in April 1815 (I notice 1814 being mentioned elsewhere?).

James’ mother, Elizabeth, died in February 1814.

A burial record of interest for 7th October 1896 :
Frances Crawford 6 Marchmount Terrace, Glasgow late of Ardrossan lodging at Mespil Road, Dublin 68 years old.
(Fanny HALPIN must have returned to Ireland after the death of her husband, David CRAWFORD, was lodging in Dublin when she died and was buried in Wicklow).

A burial record 4 June 1906 of Robert George HALPIN Master Mariner, 37 years of age.

An EATON COTTER born to Thomas and Charmain COTTER December 1757
A Burial record for Sep 3 1828 EATON COTTER  Esq aged 70 years 8 months.

Hope this is of interest and relevant,
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Sunday 14 November 10 15:05 GMT (UK)
                                                  A marriage record of interest to Ray/Bill.

17th August 1871 Samuel Halpin 24 years old, Miller, Wicklow son of Robert W. Halpin, Post Master married Madeline Turnbull aged 23 years, Wicklow, daughter of James Turnbull, Wicklow rifles.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 14 November 10 19:55 GMT (UK)
This is the 2nd child and eldest known son of RWH.  Tavern, do these wide-ranging findings mean that there are no other (particularly earlier) mentions of RWH than this marriage of a son in 1871 in Wicklow parish records?

This son, Samuel Halpin, moved to Co Louth (Drogheda), recorded in the 1901/11 censuses as a mill wright and carpenter.  He and wife Madeline had known children ROBERT JAMES HALPIN 1872, Margaret Frances Halpin 1874, Maria Rose Halpin 1876, Madeline Halpin 1878, Samuel 1880 (d 1885) and Anna Christina Halpin 1882.  I know nothing further of the daughters.

Eldest son Robert James Halpin became a National Teacher and returned to Co Wicklow as a teacher in Rathdrum town in both censuses.  In 1902 he married Alice Myers (also a National Teacher) in the Thomastown reg. dist of Kilkenny.  They had three known sons (grandsons of Robert Wellington Halpin) all born in Rathdrum.  They were SAMUEL JAMES HALPIN 1905, ROBERT GEORGE HALPIN 1908, HENRY GRATTAN HALPIN, 1911.


                                                  A marriage record of interest to Ray/Bill.

17th August 1871 Samuel Halpin 24 years old, Miller, Wicklow son of Robert W. Halpin, Post Master married Madeline Turnbull aged 23 years, Wicklow, daughter of James Turnbull, Wicklow rifles.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 15 November 10 00:41 GMT (UK)
Re the last, in censuses, Madeline states that she was born in Scotland but at her marriage 23 years later her father James Turnbull's profession is shown as being in the Wicklow Rifles.  Just an observation.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 15 November 10 00:54 GMT (UK)
I thought I was given the marriage date of 1st April 1814, source Jim Rees' book on The Life of Captain Robert Halpin.  Perhaps I mistyped the year.

                                                Another look at Church Records 12th November 2010
James HALPIN and Ann HALBERT married in April 1815 (I notice 1814 being mentioned elsewhere?).
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 15 November 10 02:42 GMT (UK)
We have never known the middle name of the 4th child and 3rd son of James Halpin and Ann Halbert (until now only known as Captain Thomas J Halpin), but as we now know from Tavern that Ann's father's name was James Halbert and with his father being James, it is a very strong chance that his full name was Thomas James Halpin.

The second son was George Halbert Halpin.  Any other family precedent for the name George, apart from being the King's name?  And we know of the speculation over the first son being named Eaton Cotter Halpin.

The next son was Stopford William Halpin.  I can think of some theories for the name William, apart from being both a common and royal name.  And the next son was Richard Mathews Halpin.  These names seem very deliberate and I think deserve to be kept in mind.  The advancement of such families owed as much to who they interacted with and of course who they married as much to what they achieved, and they achieved much.
Title: Re: Thomas James Halpin
Post by: tavern on Monday 15 November 10 05:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill,
Just a reminder for the record. In Post #40 above I gave the names of the ten children mentioned in James' Will as follows:

 Eliza (Elizabeth) (b: 1816), Eaton Cotter (b: 1817), George Halbert (b: 1821), Thomas James (b: 1822), William Stopford (b:1824), Richard Mathews (b: 1825), Anne Frances (Fanny), (b: 1828), John Augustus (b: 1832), Louisa (b: 1834) and Charles Robert (b;1836).

regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 16 November 10 05:56 GMT (UK)
To clarify the thirteen children of James and Anne Halpin we have the ten mentioned above at the time of the Will and           
 the other three were as follows:

1.   Sidney Anne (b: 1826) died in infancy, Burial 22 May 1827.

2.   John James (b:1829) also died young in 1830.Burial 27th February 1830, aged 5 months. The John mentioned in the Will was John Augustus ( b: 1832). As you are probably aware it was not unusual to call a child after a dead sibling.

3.   Again, there was a Robert Chaloner (b:1831) who died in 1835, aged 5 years and the Robert mentioned in the Will was registered as Charles Robert (b:1836). This is the Capt. Robert Charles of ‘Great Eastern’ fame.

I think we have a new name appearing for the first time? ie. Chaloner.?
.
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 17 November 10 23:51 GMT (UK)
                                                     Burial of Capt. Robert G.Halpin, who died at Falmouth, 1st June 1906

From the Wicklow Newsletter and Arklow Reporter (June 9th 1906) .

The remains of Captain Robert G. Halpin, who died at Falmouth, on the 1st instant, which reached Wicklow late on Saturday night, were interred in Wicklow Churchyard on Monday (4th). The funeral was very largely attended by all classes of the inhabitants of the deceased native town.........The chief mourners were Doctor James H.Halpin, brother and Mr.Robert Kent, brother- in- law.......

. At half past eleven o clock the coffin, containing all that was mortal of that promising young Wicklowman, was removed from his residence in Wentworth place.....
Amongst those present (many professional and business leaders are mentioned) were some names of interest in this research – John Clements, Dr.Gregg, T.C. Edward Kennedy, T.C. Percy Clements, Henry Revell, M.S.Kent.


Among those who sent flowers – Mrs. And Misses Halpin, Dalkey; Mrs.Halpin, Tinakilly; Misses Halpin, Leitrim Lodge; Nephews and nieces, Wentworth Lodge; Doctor Robert C.H.Kennedy and Mrs. Kennedy, Ryde, Isle of Wight........

A  resolution of sympathy was passed by the Wicklow Harbour Board deploring the loss of 'such a promising fellow townsman'. Also a resolution from  Wicklow Urban Council....that we tender our sympathy to Dr.Halpin, Miss Halpin and Mrs.R.Kent, over their great bereavement in the loss of their brother Captain Robert G. Halpin.......

Regards,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Thursday 18 November 10 09:17 GMT (UK)
That was my Grandmother's brother, Uncle Bob, I'm not sure what happened to him, but I do know that a nephew of Captain Halpin's died from blood poisoning, he was repairing the cable and got a scratch from it, at least that is the family story.  For some reason it was my Grandmother and her twin sister Ida who had to go to Falmouth to identify him.
Another Hapin seaman fell overboard and the body was never recovered, again the story was that a shark had got him.   I know I keep saying this, but I wish I had taken more notice of family talk when I was a child!!
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Saturday 20 November 10 09:37 GMT (UK)
This unusual name 'Robert Chaloner Halpin'  raises the question - Did James and Anne Halpin name some of their children after well known landed gentry, military  and/or Tory politicians, living close by rather than the usual family method?  While unusual this was not unheard of.

1.   Robert Chaloner Halpin:
William-Wentworth Fitzwilliam Hume & the Chaloners
In June 1829, Fitzwilliam Hume, of Humewood, in the county of Wicklow, married Margaret -Bruce Chaloner. She was the eldest daughter of Earl Fitzwilliam's agent  Robert Chaloner, MP, a member of the wealthy aluminium mining family from Guisborough in Yorkshire. Financial disaster had hit Robert around the time of the 1825 banking crisis (sound familiar?).
 Robert was forced to leave his estates and worked as agent for Fitzwilliam in Wicklow. Robert become heavily involved in the controversial exodus of many of  the Fitzwilliam tenants,  to Canada and from there to the USA, towards the end of the Famine. At that time Fitzwilliam owned half the town of Wicklow as well as much of the county. As you are aware the landlord of some of the Halpins properties, in Wicklow, was Fitzwilliam.
Could this be where the “Robert Chaloner” Halpin name came from.? (1831).

2.   William Stopford Halpin
James George Stopford, 3rd Earl of Courtown (30 minutes from Wicklow Town) held the office of Member of Parliament (M.P.) (Tory) for Great Bedwyn between 1790 and 1796. He gained the rank of Captain circa 1791. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Earl of Courtown, co. Wexford on 30 March 1810. He held the office of Governor of County Wexford between 1813 and 1831. He was invested as a Knight, Order of St. Patrick on 20 August 1821. He held the office of Captain of the Yeoman of the Guard between January 1835 and April 1835.
Thomas Stopford the 4th earl had a son Lt Gen Hon Sir Frederick William Stopford,  Page of Honour to Queen Victoria 1866-70.

3.   Eaton Cotter Halpin
Eaton Cotter and Richard Cotter of Coolawinna were land owners and friends of the Halberts.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 22 November 10 02:32 GMT (UK)
The eldest son of Dr George Halbert Halpin was Dr James Henry Halpin who practised in Wicklow until his death aged about 55, in 1916.  He lived at Wentworth Villas in Wentworth Place.  He is buried with his brother, Captain Robert George Halpin (above).  His wife was Adelaide Maude, who went to Philadelphia after her husband's death with their children.  I hope I am attaching photos of this couple.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 23 November 10 13:26 GMT (UK)
                                                                Link of Rev.Robert Halpin to James Halpin of The Bridge Tavern ?

On the Churchyard memorial we see James’ sister as Margaret.

‘Margaret Halpin daughter of the above named | Elizabeth Halpin died April 15th 1862’.

A burial record #463 Margaret Halpin, Wicklow buried 17th April 1862 aged 80 years. Ceremony performed by Henry Rooke and Rev.Robert Halpin.

Henry Rooke was the local clergyman.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 23 November 10 19:49 GMT (UK)
                                                                                             HALPIN V. HALFPENNY

                                                  Just another "conspiracy Theory".....The following carries a "HEALTH WARNING"...

No Halpins are showing pre 1799 in Wicklow town Church of Ireland records.
The Halpins may have come from another parish in Wicklow or from outside Wicklow.

 Yet according to other facts we have “HALPIN’S BRIDGE HOTEL Established AD 1765” and Frances Halpin’s statement of :  ...It is kept by members of the same family who kept it a century ago...
This may have been in the maternal side of the family or is it possible that the name changed?

In Church records we have a JAMES son of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 22nd October 1780.
We have a MARGARET daughter of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 28th April 1782
From previous info  (Churchyard memorial) we are looking for a JAMES HALPIN born abt. 1778 whose mother is ELIZABETH. From the burial record above we are looking for a MARGARET HALPIN born abt. 1782 with a mother ELIZABETH.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 23 November 10 20:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you Tavern for providing the first documentary evidence of a link between these families.  In 1862 and the years surrounding, Rev Robert Crawford Halpin was chaplain at the Arbour Hill Barracks in Dublin.  The next month after he performed this service in Wicklow, his last known child, Arthur Frederick Halpin, was born at the Royal Barracks, Dublin.  So, I have no doubt that this is him and that he has come down from Dublin to co-conduct this burial service.  Was Margaret his aunt (and therefore James his uncle), or a first cousin once removed?  I can't entertain a more distant relationship.

                                                                Link of Rev.Robert Halpin to James Halpin of The Bridge Tavern ?
A burial record #463 Margaret Halpin, Wicklow buried 17th April 1862 aged 80 years. Ceremony performed by Henry Rooke and Rev.Robert Halpin.
Henry Rooke was the local clergyman.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 23 November 10 21:07 GMT (UK)
Tavern, I don't suppose William or George (or any other) Halfpennys might also be in these Wicklow Town Church of Ireland records pre 1800, birth, death or marriage?  We have to consider your above findings quite seriously.  In doing so, I have seen written that the name Halpin evolved from Halfpenny (and some other roots), but I would have thought this happened earlier than the late 1700s, particularly in educated families.

But, in doing so, we are looking at James's father's name being John Halpin or John Halfpenny.  His death/burial?  Dare I suggest it, are you prepared now to look for Halfpenny in the registry of deeds, and John Halpin?

Way back early in these rounds of discussions a couple of years ago now, I noted the suggestion from somewhere that a John was somehow connected with Nicholas Halpin in Portarlington.  At the time I wondered if this John was an unknown son.  But was he ("health warning!") a brother (and/or father) of Nicholas?   Nicholas had only one known son, William Henry.  But thereafter, the eldest sons were repeatedly Nicholas John, followed by William Henry.  Bears keeping in mind, I believe.  William Henry was born about 1760 so it is I suppose conceivable that John Halfpenny was also born about then or a bit earlier.

William's 3rd son was John (after Richard and William).  George only had 2 sons (George and Oswald) so we will never know if he may have named a next son John.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 23 November 10 21:46 GMT (UK)
SOME OTHER HALFPENNY NAMES NOTED

WILLIAM son of THOMAS Halfpenny baptised 17th April 1741

JOHN son of WILLIAM Halfpenny baptised 24th May 1741

ISAAC son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 1755?

MARGARET daughter of THOMAS and MARGARET Halpenny 1756?

JOHN son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 10 June 1759

CHARLES son of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 5 August 1764

SUSANNA daughter of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 1765?

NICHOLAS of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 30 June 1792

MARGARET of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 9th Oct 1795

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Sunday 28 November 10 17:34 GMT (UK)
James Halpin (1777–1847) Married 1st April 1814 to Anne Halbert (1797- 1849)
"James & Anne married in the Parish Church, The Church of the Vineyard on 1st April 1814.
James was almost 40 yrs old [bc 1774] while Anne was only 17 yrs. [bc 1797]."
Rees, Jim, The live of Captain Robert Halpin (2009) Arklow, Co Wicklow p13. ISBN 0 9519239 0 0.

Here are some baptismal dates taken from the register of The Church of the Vines,
now Called St. Thomas’s Church of Ireland Church, Church Hill, Wicklow Town

Children:        Born   Baptised      Died
1. Eliza          b 21 Oct 1816     1881
2. Eaton Cotter       19 Sept 1817    19 Jul 1857 age 39 yrs
3. George       1821      1887   
4. Thomas James       30 Sep 1822       1878
5. William Stopford b15 Jan 1824 bp 31 Jan 1824   27 Feb 1885 age 61 yrs
6. Richard Mathews      6 April 1825   1889
7. Sydney Anne      6 Dec 1826   1827
8 Ann Francis (sic)      24 Mar 1828   1902
9. John James       8 Sep 1829   1930
10. Robert Chalmer (sic)   1 Jan 1831   8 Dec 1835
11. John Augustus      26 Oct 1832   8 Oct 1864 age 32 in West Indies
12. Louise         12 Sep 1834   1902
13. Robert  b 5 Jan 1836   16 Feb 1836   23 Jan 1894
(Robert was baptised as Charles Robert) 

Just to add another name to your list. On census 1911 b6 Ballynerrin (part of) Wicklow Urban) All Church of Ireland, born Co Wicklow, could read & write

1 Newsome George age 57 [bc 1854] C of I Veterinary Surgeon & Farmer
2 Newsome Catherine Anne age 49 [bc 1862] wife married 28 yrs. No of children born and living was ‘blank’
3 Halpin, Aileen Grace Gilbert, age 23 yrs [bc1888] Niece single

Aileen Grace Gilbert Halpin was the eldist child of  Richard Frederick B Halpin 1858-1903 and Frances Elizabeth Gilbert who died 1896. 

Who are the Newsomes?
C 1911 b 18 Ferrybank Street, (Arklow Urban, Wicklow) Richard Halpin age 42 yrs was boarding with Anne Tryell and her 2 daughters. He was born in Co Wicklow,  his occupation is Physician & Surgeon, and he was a Widower.
Census 1911 b 14 in Summerhill, (part of) (Wicklow Urban, Wicklow) who are these 2 ladies?
Halpin   Ellen M, age 67 Head of Family   C of I born Wicklow Town, House Keeper, Single         
Halpin   Emma age 56, Sister   , C of I, born Wicklow Town. Occ Accountant, Single         
Cannot find the above 2 sisters on c 1901 searched ‘Wicklow’ and ‘all counties’.

Are the following, part of your family?  Census 1901 b37 in Main Street (Rathdrum, Co Wicklow)
Halpin   Robert James, age 28, Head, C of I, born Co. Louth, National Teacher, single
Turnbull   Margaret age 40, Aunt, C of I. born Co. Wicklow. House-keeper, single
Halpin   Annie Christina, age 18, Sister, C of I born    Co. Louth   Work-Mistress, single


C 1911 b17 Main St. (Rathdrum, Co Wicklow) All 5 C of I. Wife and children born Co Wicklow
1 Robert James Halpin age 38 yrs born Co Louth, National Teacher
2 Alice Halpin, wife age 35 yrs occ = National Teacher married 9 yrs, 5 children born 4 alive.
3 Samuel James age 6 son. 4 Robert George age 3 son. 5 Henry Grattan Halpin 4 mths. Son.

Who was William Halpin boarding at b1 Bond St Wicklow on census 1901 age 70 yrs Irish Church, born Co Wicklow? Occupation = Annuity, single

C 1911 b6 Bath St Wicklow Town
Turnbull   Mark, age    41, Head    R.C. born Co Mayo, Constable of R. I. Constabulary   Married      
Turnbull   Mary Frances, age 33, Wife, R.C. born Co Wexford, mar 7 yrs 2 child born 2 alive      
Turnbull   Thomas Francis, age    6, Son, R.C. born Co Wicklow      
Turnbull   Mary Christina   3, Daughter, R.C. Co Wicklow, Single         
Hennerty   Mary, age 34, Visitor   R.C. born, Cork City,   Poultry Instructress, Single         
Brayden Margaret M P age 26, Boarder, R.C.England, Domestic Economy Instructress, single   

Reply to posting 110 “Among those who sent flowers – Mrs. And Misses Halpin, Dalkey” The following census brings in another name as a grand niece born Egypt.
C 1901 45 in Coliemore Road (Dalkey, Dublin)
   
Halpin   Nannie C   33   Daughter   Protestant   Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Violet L   26   Daughter   Protestant   Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Nessie   10   Grand Daughter, Protestant, Co Wicklow, Spinster
Halpin   Alieen   13   Grand Daughter, Protestant, Co Wicklow, Spinster
Pertnice   Violet   6   Grand Niece, Protestant, born Egypt, Spinster
Halpin   Gerbert   12   Grand Son   , Protestant, Co Wicklow, single
Halpin   Susanna F   41   Head    Protestant, Co Wicklow. House Property, Widow
Brown   Daisy   15   Boarder   Protestant   , Co Kilkenny, Scholar. Spinster
Horan   Sarah   17   Servant   R. C Co Wexford, Gen.  Servant   , Spinster

Hope the above is not too long winded. Tavern you seem to be doing a lot of good work for this forum, well done.

Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 28 November 10 20:34 GMT (UK)
Replying to just a couple of Julia's queries/postings.
Ellen and Emma Halpin were daughters of Robert Wellington Halpin.  On page 1 of the original Halpins of Wicklow thread, Ray portrayed how Emma and another sister, at advanced ages and in dire poverty, went to the home of their nephew in Dublin after WW1.
Robert James Halpin I have reported recently was also from the Robert Wellington Halpin family, a nephew of these women, son of their brother Samuel Halpin, mother Madeline, whose father was James Turnbull.  I don't know if she was related to the other Turnbulls listed here, who are recorded as RC.  Madeline was married in Wicklow's Church of Ireland and gives C of I as her religion in the census.
The "Gerbert" Halpin aged 12 in 1901 was Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin whose son, by a late second marriage, may be the sole remaining male Halpin of this Wicklow Halpin family, unless he has a son.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Monday 29 November 10 08:48 GMT (UK)
Aileen and Bessie Halpin were brought up by relatives after their Mother died, I think one went to Aunt Vi, but the other one lived at Seaview House on Church Hill, I think with the Newsomes Maeve mentioned, I was always under the impression they were her Aunt and Uncle.  I don't know where their brother Gilbert went, maybe to England with their father?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 29 November 10 10:20 GMT (UK)
Of the household at Dalkey in 1901, the head, Susanna F, would have been 71 rather than 41.  She was born in 1829 as Susanna Frances Bestall to William Bestall.  Hence her eldest son's name Richard Frederick Bestall Halpin born 1858, who married Bessie Gilbert.  His only son, noted above as Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin, brother of Aileen and Bessie (not Nessie), in turn named his only son Richard Michael Bestall Halpin, the remaining Wicklow Halpin of the male line, until recently living in the Scots Borders.
Marie, Gilbert's father Dr RFB Halpin died 2 years after this 1901 census as recorded early on in a picture of his gravestone in Mount Jerome Cemetery, when Gilbert would have been about 14, so he too needed to be cared for by relatives, possibly aunt Nannie Caldour Halpin.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Monday 29 November 10 14:56 GMT (UK)
So that is what could have happened to Gilbert, I remember once meeting him.. He was completly bald, Shock at seeing his friend killed on the railway line at Killiney and then shortly after having nearly been killed himself when the edge of a cliff gave way, that caused a hair loss, or so the family story went.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Monday 29 November 10 23:25 GMT (UK)
More on RICHARD STOPFORD GILBERT HALPIN

Born to RICHARD FREDERICK  BESTALL HALPIN and FRANCES ELIZABETH  GILBERT abt 1889, Co.Wicklow.

In Census 1901 GILBERT is with his grandmother at Coliemore Road, Dalkey, Aged 12. Along with his two sisters AILEEN GRACE GILBERT HALPIN (Aileen) and FRANCES ELIZABETH GILBERT HALPIN (Bessie).

R.F.B. HALPIN (Gilbert’s father) died in 1903 and his estate was left to his mother:
 PROBATE
1903 Dublin ... estate granted to Susanna Frances Halpin [mother] of Stokerville, Dalkey, Co. Dublin (widow), lawful guardian of Aileen Grace Gilbert Halpin 16 yrs, Stopford Richard Gilbert Halpin 15 yrs, Frances Elisabeth Gilbert Halpin 13 yrs.

GILBERT qualified and registered as a MD.  27 June 1913 at the age of  24 in Dublin.
   (See the UK Medical Registers, 1859-1959
Halpin,  Richard Stopford Gilbert, 22 Stafford Road, Wallington, Surrey . Date and place of  Registration, Ireland 1913 June 27.  Qualifications: M.B., B.Ch., 1913, U. Dubl).
He is resident in LONDON in 1924 at the age of  35.
( British Phone Books, 1880-1984 Record for R.S.G Halpin Physician and Surgeon, Stafford Road, Wallington, Surrey 1924).

He was still resident in 1959 aged 70 in Wallington, Surrey.
(See the UK Medical Registers, 1859-1959).

Regards,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 30 November 10 00:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Mkent,

AILEEN GRACE GILBERT HALPIN (Aileen) was staying with her aunt Catherine Anne Newsom (Halpin) in the 1911 census in Wicklow.
Catherine Anne was the daughter of Stopford William Halpin and Susanna Frances Bestall and sister to Aileen's father Richard Frederick Bestall Halpin.

FRANCES ELIZABETH GILBERT HALPIN (Bessie) was staying with her aunts at house #3 in Adelaide Terrace (Kingstown No. 4, Dublin)   Nannie Caldon Halpin and Violet Louise Halpin,  daughters of Stopford William Halpin and Susanna Frances Bestall .


Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 30 November 10 02:48 GMT (UK)
There are a considerable number of Newsom civil registrations for Wicklow and even more Newsomes.  I did not know previously of Catherine Anne Halpin.  However her marriage to George Newsom took place in Oct-Dec 1882 and she died in Jul-Sep 1944, given age 82 indicating birth about 1862, making her the third child, after Richard Frederick Bestall and James Eaton Halpin.
While trawling among the Newsoms, I noticed that Dorcas Newsom and her husband Robert Hunt had a son in 1876 at Killacloran, Wicklow, named Francis Revell Hunt, so there is a connection to the name Revell again.

I have not so far been able to find the name of Dr Gilbert Halpin's first wife.  If anyone has access to the civil registrations, he is shown as marrying in Jan-Mar 1914, Vol 2, p.752, which should reveal her name.  Marie recalls that they had, at least, a daughter named Maureen but, oddly, I cannot find any such birth in Ireland or England.  While this is not so strange, I wonder if they may have spent a spell in Scotland or elsewhere that a young doctor may have served before settling down.  Gilbert remarried in Sep 1935 to Kathleen Ballance (he was 46), so his first wife died prior to that.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Tuesday 30 November 10 09:35 GMT (UK)
I have discovered an old book belonging to one of my Aunts, the writing is very shakey, but as far as I can make out Maureen's married name is something like Sturry, and she lived in Wickfield, Sussex, I don't know when, but it is something to go on. Thanks Tavern for the Info on Aileen and Bessie.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 30 November 10 10:56 GMT (UK)
A Mary A Halpin died in the Croydon district in Dec 1930.  Wallington, Surrey is in this registration district.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 30 November 10 12:37 GMT (UK)
Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin married Mary Abigail Le Clerc Jan-Mar 1914.

Birth of a Mary Abigail Le Clerc
Registration District: Dublin South
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1881



Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 30 November 10 22:15 GMT (UK)
Maureen F Halpin b March 1920, mother le Clerc, Chester registration district. [FreeBMD]
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 01 December 10 00:19 GMT (UK)


Death of  Richard S G Halpin    Oct-Dec 1965  Age at death (estimated): 77  Registration district: Merton Inferred County: Greater London

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 01 December 10 17:09 GMT (UK)
                                                                                                   William Law Bestall Halpin
                                                               Youngest son of of Stopford William Halpin and Susanna Frances Bestall .



William L.B. Halpin (b.1871) married Margaret Johnston in Apr-Jun 1901, Dublin South district.

It would appear he was living and working in England and came home to Ireland to marry in 1901.

 Institute of Mining Engineers
Transactions Volume XIII, 1896-1897
 shows a Halpin, W. L., Bridgewater Offices, Walkden, near Bolton, Lancashire

See the following:

DURHAM MINING MUSEUM
http://www.dmm.org.uk/certs/names_su.htm

Certificates of Competency and of Service

Halpin, W. L. B.           1,752     Surveyor    29    Jun     1912
First Class Certificate of Competency as Manager of a Mine have been endorsed by H.M. Inspectors of Mines with the Qualification of Surveyor of Mines, during the year 1912

Halpin, William Law Bestall  examined at Yorkshire and Lincolnshire     1st Class   , 11 Sep 1900
 Certificate of Competency as a Manager of Mines granted under the Coal Mines Regulation Act, 1887 (50 & 51 Vict. Cap. 58, Secs. 23 and 80) From a list published in 1911 covering the period 1st January 1896 to 31st December 1910


Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 02 December 10 18:54 GMT (UK)
William Law Bestall Halpin, as Tavern has shown, qualified in England as a mining engineer.  In the 1911 England and Wales Census, his occupation is Colliery Manager in Derbyshire, near Sheffield. He was the youngest son of Dr Stopford William Halpin of Arklow, where he was born in 1871. 
In 1901, it seems he returned to Dublin to marry his English born wife, who was baptised Annie Margaret Winnifred Johnston in Plumstead, Kent, near London, but who thereafter is always recorded as Wynnfred Halpin.
In 1902 they had their one child, Iris Wynnfred Violet Halpin, who may have been born at the home of William’s brother, Dr James Eaton Halpin, in South Normanton, between Alfreton Derbyshire and Mansfield Nottinghamshire (these days a junction of the M1).
By 1922 William and Wynnfred had moved from The Lodge, Warmsworth, Doncaster to Oak Alyn, near Wrexham, now a nursing home.  A series of three notices in The Times in 1921 and 1922 announce the engagement, forthcoming marriage and then the marriage of Iris on July 4 to Major Charles Caulfield Hewitt, DSO, MC of the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Machine Gun School, Seaford.  No child is found, nor a divorce or his death, however Iris remarries in 1935 to Commander Hedworth Lambton RN, whose father was a younger son of the Duke of Durham.  They have been recorded returning 1st Class from Buenos Aires in 1939.  They had a daughter Rosemary Ann who, in 2003, lived at Onslow Square, London.  Lambton divorced Iris in 1963 to remarry and Iris is recorded dying in 1997 (aged about 94) in the Kensington and Chelsea district of London, which may possibly have been the address in Onslow Square.
Wynnfred’s daughter and granddaughter returned to her city of birth but at the other end of town, both literally and figuratively.   Wynnfred meantime had died in 1974 in the Worksop district of Derbyshire.
I have not yet found the death of WLB Halpin.  He had been appointed in 1932 as an executor of his brother James Eaton’s will and as late as 1967 there is an advertisement giving his name seeking information from a ‘close relative’ for the purposes of the estate of JE Halpin.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 02 December 10 19:37 GMT (UK)
Medical Halpins
This is quite a story.  To assist, I am appending an updated tree chart. I had hoped to include an image of the 1923 Medical Register but it was rejected for size.  If you are able to look at the 1923 register, Dr George Halpin in Swallowfield is from my Dublin Halpin strain.  His brother Dr William Oswald Halpin also qualified but was killed in the Royal Army Medical Corps at the end of WW1.  Was their decision to take up medicine influenced by cousins in Wicklow?
James Halpin 1777-1847. 
His 2nd son became Dr George Halbert Halpin who was succeeded in his Wicklow Town practice by his son Dr James Henry Halpin, who is in the 1903 and 1907 registers. 
James’ 4th son, Dr Stopford William Halpin (wife Bestall) practised in Arklow. He was succeeded there by his 1st son Dr Richard Frederick Bestall Halpin.  RFB’s son Dr Richard Stopford Gilbert (called Gilbert) Halpin I see started in Shropshire but served for years in Wallington near Croydon.  His late son from a second marriage is Dr Richard Michael Bestall Halpin who was last practising at the Borders Hospital at Melrose in Scotland.  He may well be the sole remaining male Halpin descendant and I would love to locate him. 
The 2nd son of Dr Stopford William Halpin in Arklow was Dr James Eaton Halpin who, with his son Dr Stopford John Halpin, practised in South Normanton, Derbyshire. 
Then a late daughter of James was Louisa Halpin whose son, Dr Robert Charles Halpin Kennedy, practised in Ryde, Isle of Wight.
That makes 9 doctors in descendants of James Halpin and Anne Halbert.
From the Portarlington family, there was the eminent Dr Charles Halpin of Cavan.  Diane, were there other doctors in this family?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 02 December 10 19:47 GMT (UK)
Dr James Eaton Halpin (1861-1931).  He set up practise in 1891 at South Normanton in East Derbyshire, almost in Nottinghamshire (immediately after marrying Margaret Newson, or more likely Newsom, in Dublin).  They had two children.  Dorothy Frances Bestall Halpin, born 1892 at South Normanton, who married there in 1921 Eric Muschamp.  They had two daughters in the same area, Margaret and Rosemary .  Rosemary may not have married but Margaret married Thomas Hayes and had three sons, Philip, Tony and Robert.
Dr James Eaton Halpin's other child was Stopford John Halpin, born 30 Oct 1894.  He married in 1931, Bertha M Parker.  I have not been able to find any children.  Stopford also became a doctor and succeeded to his father's practise in South Normanton.  He died in 1975 in the Louth district of Lincolnshire.  I hoped this might be the address of an unknown child but conceivably it may have been where one of his Muschamp nieces lived.
Marie will be interested that Dr Stopford Halpin is remembered as being completely bald, which is the way she recalls Stopford's first cousin Gilbert.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 02 December 10 22:03 GMT (UK)
Well done Bill on updating the Family tree of James and Anne Halpin.

Violet Louise HALPIN (b. 1874)
m. 1914 (unknown) CASEY

Violet married Charles Harold CASEY. There is an interesting conundrum concerning their marriage record.

The records are entered twice:

1. Rathdown Oct-Dec 1913, Vol. 2 Page 829
2. Rathdown  Jan-Mar 1914, Vol. 2 Page 764

I wonder which year is correct? Did they marry on New years Eve?
Someone needs to purchase the documents to verify the date.!!!!

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 02 December 10 22:42 GMT (UK)
could be a separate church and civil marriage on two different dates ?



Shane
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 03 December 10 17:03 GMT (UK)
Just thinking out loud....Thought for the day............

Could this be a case of brother and sister marrying brother and sister?

Catherine Anne Halpin married George Newsom in 1882.

Margaret Newsom married James Eaton Halpin in 1891.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Friday 03 December 10 23:13 GMT (UK)
When I was in Dublin recently I spent some time at the Dublin Library looking up records. While looking in the various Trade Directories I came across some entries for Halpin/Halpen etc. but I did not search all the directories.
1761 The Dublin Dir.
Halfpenny Harrap, Tallow Chandler, Francis St.
Halfpenny John, Herald Painter, Britain St.
1776 Watson’s Almanack
Halfpen John, Herald Painter, 161 Britain St.
Halpen Richard, Wine Cooper, 44 Winetavern St.
Halpin Patrick, Engraver, 35 Temple Bar
1781 Watson’s
Halfpen Mary, Herald Painter, 161 Britain St.
(& Richd. & Patk. as above)
1790 Treble Almanack
Halpin Christopher, Grocer, 39 Old Church St.
   “       Henry, Hatter, 24 Essex St.
   “       Henry, Merchant, 24 Upper Ormond Quay
   “       James, Grocer & Tobacconist, 13 Mary’s Lane
   “       John, Comb Maker, 30 Greek St.
   “       William, Tanner, 12 Kilmainham
Halpen John, Bookseller, 55 Henry St.
    “      Samuel, Harness Maker, 64 Dirty Lane     
1814 Treble Alm.
Halpin Mary & Martha, Haberdashers, 5 Mecklenburg St.
1861 Thom’s Dir.
Halpin Rev. Robt. C. , Chaplain to HRH the Duke of Cambridge & Chaplain to the Forces,
44 Manor St.

Two things to observe: John Halfpenny became Halfpen and his wife (or daughter?) had taken over in 1781.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Diane Carruthers on Sunday 05 December 10 07:47 GMT (UK)
Medical Halpins
That makes 9 doctors in descendants of James Halpin and Anne Halbert.
From the Portarlington family, there was the eminent Dr Charles Halpin of Cavan.  Diane, were there other doctors in this family?

Frederick James Halpin's son ( Dr Charles Halpin's nephew) Walter Charles was a doctor. He is in the Medical Register for 1895. He trained in Edinburgh, was registered in Ireland in 1886. He practiced in Parkend, Gloucestershire for years before retiring to Newton Abbott, Devon where he died in 1916. He had one child Charlotte Mary Halpin.

Diane
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 07 December 10 19:17 GMT (UK)
An observation.  Earlier Tavern supplied in response to my identiying the name Revill Clements in connection with the (former?) Cotter property, Coolawinna, the following:

A James HALBERT married Mary REVELL 30th Aug 1795 in Wicklow Town(COI)
(Bill, Remember REVELL Clements in #95 above Crawford to Crawford?)

As recently shown, James Eaton Halpin set up his medical practice in South Normanton, Derbyshire, and he was at times joined there by his brother WLB Halpin, mining engineer and coal mine manager.  The following is taken from Genuki, an old gazetteer entry:

"SOUTH NORMANTON, a parish in the hundred of Scarsdale, county Derby, 2¼ miles E. of Alfreton, its post town, and 2 N.W. of the Pinxton railway station. The village, which is large, is situated on an eminence, and is chiefly agricultural. It formerly belonged to the Willoughbys and Revels, which latter family resided here from the time of the Conquest. The surface is elevated and the scenery diversified. The substratum abounds in coal, of which some mines have been opened. The tithes have been commuted for a rent-charge of £285."

In 1891, did an extended Revell family still have enough influence to find James Eaton a living in South Normanton and/or did coal take WLB there?
Title: Re: Origin of the name
Post by: kenneth cooke on Saturday 11 December 10 00:12 GMT (UK)
Re my recent post 139-
From Hibernian Journal 1771-1799:
Death 31 April 1777, In Gt. Britain St., Mr. John Halpen, Herald Painter
So, in 1761, Halfpenny,
In 1776, Halfpen,
1777, Halpen,
and in 1781 back to (Mrs.) Halfpen
 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 14 December 10 00:39 GMT (UK)
                                                                 George Halpin Senior of Dublin and James Halpin of Wicklow were brothers.

        We already know that  “Captain Frederick Halpin was nephew to James Halpin of Wicklow”
                               
         We can now show that Frederick was the son of George Halpin senior.

                                                                      Registry of Deeds 1855 – 11 -Number 245 and 246

A memorial of a deed of Conveyance of the twenty eight day of April 1855 made between Thomas Crostwait of Fitzwilliam Square East in the city of Dublin and George Halpin of Rathgar in the County of Dublin esquires, executors of the last will and testament of George Halpin late of the North Wall in the county of Dublin esquire of the first part , Frederick Halpin of Kingston in the county of Dublin Esquire son of the said George Halpin deceased of the second part and Robert Halpin of Belmont Raheny in the County of Dublin Clerk of the third part. Reciting that by indenture of lease of the fifteenth of February 1808 made between James Williams and Richard Williams the younger both of the city of Dublin Merchants of the one part and said George Halpin the father of said George Halpin and Frederick Halpin of the other part..............pay over the same in equal moieties or shares between his said son George and his son Frederick being his only children then living........that said George Halpin departed this life on or about the 8th day of July 1854 without altering said Will......


NOTES

These two memorials are very long but some of the main observations are the following-

George Senior had a son Frederick living in Kingston in 1855.
Confirmation of George senior living at the North Wall at the time of his death and his date of death.
George Halpin Junior living at Rathgar.
The Robert Halpin of Belmont Raheny is The Rev.Robert Halpin. There is no indication one way or the other from the documents that the Rev. Robert is related to George and Frederick.
George and Frederick were the only children alive when George senior died.
Another Crostwait (note the spelling) appearing as an executor of George senior’s Will.
The documents go on to show that Frederick passes his share of the estate to George and this could explain where Frederick got the money to buy the Halpin estate in Wicklow a year later in 1856.
Most likely therefore it was George Junior who challenged the Will of Frederick when he died in 1859.

Happy Christmas,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 14 December 10 23:06 GMT (UK)
Well Tavern, what a bolt from the blue.  I have been expecting something significant from your researches that would point us backwards but not quite this.  I am stunned, thrilled, confused and a myriad other reactions.  Not that the actual relationship was unlikely, just to receive it so plainly and incontrovertibly demonstrated, after all this time.  And now further, to add Captain Frederick Halpin as one of my immediate relatives.

The details of the evidence point to much further research and speculation.  For a start –

1)    I sense a family split.  There is no other Frederick in the George Halpin families.  As you say, George junior may have contested Frederick’s will.  Why?  It seems to be demonstrated that Frederick (and Louisa?) felt closer to the James Halpin family than his own.  Is it now possible that the George Halpin listed in regard to the leasing of the Bridge Hotel in 1859 was indeed George junior rather than Fanny’s brother Dr George?  As I earlier stated, I was sure George senior would have helped James’ widow Ann out of any threat of bankruptcy, not knowing then as we now do,  that he was her brother-in-law.
2)   I’d like to know more about Thomas Crostwait, follow him in directories, etc.  Despite the spelling, he may be a pointer yet to the Nicholas Halpin family.
3)   Why is another party to this the Rev Robert Crawford Halpin?  In 1855, his father William and two of his elder brothers were still living (although possibly not in Ireland).  But even so, is this yet another pointer to the William Halpin family being part of the one related family?  I believe so.
4)   So many more thoughts.  I want to know who was the Richard Halpin who signed George out of Kilmainham Hospital in 1800.  William Halpin’s eldest son born 1799 was named Richard, and James had a son Richard, albeit their 5th son.  But curiously there is no Richard in the George families.

Frederick is very much a late child for George senior and his wife Elizabeth (surname still unknown).  If 36 when he died in February 1859, he was born about 1823.  His known siblings were:
George      c. 1804 (died 1869)
Oswald       Jan. 1809 (died 1834 in India)
Louisa      c. 1810 (died 1831, probably in Wicklow)   

Finally for now, it is at last gratifying to some in my family to be able to confirm the handed-down story that we are related to the famous Captain Robert Halpin.  And it is somewhat poignant to imagine that when these sea captains relied for their safety at sea in Ireland, they were guided into port by lighthouses designed and built by George Halpin, ports whose construction and upkeep were also under his supervision.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 15 December 10 00:06 GMT (UK)
If James Halfpenny baptised in 1780 and Margaret Halfpenny baptised in 1782 to John and Elizabeth Halfpenny were brother and sister to George and William, both of whom declared that they were born in Wicklow (which now seems very plausible), where were they baptised?  And we don't have the marriage of John and Elizabeth.  Could Elizabeth have come from a nearby parish in County Wicklow where she and John were married, and where perhaps their other two (or more) children were baptised at that place?
And, if James was born in 1780, that makes George his elder.  If George, William and any others were older than James and Margaret (remember that their mother Elizabeth was about 41 years old in 1780), perhaps these others were all baptised (and born?) away from Wicklow Town.
And so, were the Halpins/Halfpennys continuously in Wicklow Town and, if not, who had the hotel from the 1740s?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Wednesday 15 December 10 09:40 GMT (UK)
So that means I have Halpin relatives I never knew about.  Thay is great, I always wanted more!!
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 16 December 10 20:38 GMT (UK)
Responding to some of Bill’s observations:

Referring back to posting  #73 in October by Bill:
Halpin V. Halpin.
In this case there was an examination of witnesses to prove the due execution of a will made by the late Mr. Frederick Halpin, hotel keeper, of the town of Wicklow, leaving his property in equal shares to his two nieces. The will was impeached by the next of kin on the grounds that it was not executed according to the statute....

The Will was “impeached by the next of Kin”. We now know that George Jnr was the next of kin of Frederick (“his said son George and his son Frederick being his only children then living”).
Why he challenged we may never find out.
We still have to square the circle of “two nieces” instead of  “two cousins”. (I know newspapers make mistakes).

I’m happy it was Dr. George Halpin of Wicklow  and not George of Dublin that was involved in the sale of the Bridge Hotel.
This is what the advert said:
  "For full particulars, apply to W.F.Littledale, Esq., 9 Upper Ormonde-Quay, Dublin;
 George Halpin, Esq., Wicklow or Mr. Henry Mac Phail, Auctioneer & Valuator, Wicklow."

I know the info from the gravestone we have regarding George’s  Louisa's  death gives March 18th 1831 but I have a burial record as follows: 1834 Louisa Halpin Wicklow March 19th aged 20 years. This would leave her birth around 1814.

Also a burial record of Frederick Halpin Wicklow 1st March 1859 aged 36 years with the ceremony performed by Henry Rooke(Local) assisted by Rev. Robert Halpin. So it’s beginning to look like the Rev. Is closely related.

Regarding the Halpins being in Wicklow pre 1800 I wonder why James and George's father is not mentioned on the gravestones - only their mother?

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Friday 17 December 10 08:11 GMT (UK)
Annother story from when I was a child, there was a Louisa Halpin who died young from Peritonitas(is that how it spelt!)
she was determined to go that evening to a dance and ignored her Doctor father when he was concerned about stomach pains and told her not to go.  It turned out to be her appendix.  I think that must be the same Louisa who was recorded at having died at 20.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 28 December 10 05:49 GMT (UK)
Index of Irish Death Notices   [http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/obidxh.htm]

HALPIN, ? "wife of Captain Thomas" ( ); ; Enniskerry WIC IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-10-10;
(Wife of Capt Thomas James Halpin who died Monastery House Enniskerry 2/6/1878, married 18/4/1854 Powerscourt)

HALPIN, Ann "relict of Pat" (BENNET); 54; KER IRL>New Orleans LA; Daily Picayune; 1890-11-9;
HALPIN, Edward Evelyn; 0; Cork City COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1855-2-7;
HALPIN, Edward Thomas; 8; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1863-9-3;
HALPIN, Eliza ( ); ; Gowran Kingstown DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1881-2-5;

HALPIN, Eston C; ; Wicklow Town WIC IRL; Irish-American (NYC NY); 1857-8-15;
(Eaton Cotter Halpin d. 19/7/1857.  Why reported in New York?)

HALPIN, James; 68; Dublin DUB IRL>New York NY; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-7-30;
(Born c.1796 ??)

HALPIN, John; ; Liverpool ENG>at sea; Belfast Weekly News; 1893-11-4;
HALPIN, Joseph "Joe"; ; Cobh COR IRL; Irish Examiner; 2000-2-23;
HALPIN, Luke; ; Drumcorath MEA IRL>New York City NYC NY; Irish-American; 1885-2-7;
HALPIN, Mary (DAY); ; Limerick LIM IRL; Evening Echo (COR IRL); 2002-8-2;
HALPIN, P J; ; Kilmallock LIM IRL; Irish Examiner (COR IRL); 2003-9-12;
HALPIN, Pat; 60; Knockalough Kilmihill CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1913-2-11;
HALPIN, Patrick; ; Cahir Cloughmore CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-8-17;

HALPIN, Richard; ; Howth DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1855-5-9;
(Harbourmaster at Howth – of great interest.)

HALPIN, Sophy Miss; ; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-11-7;
Sophia Halpin 6th child of William Halpin died unm 33 Leinster Sq London 31/10/1862 aged abt 51

HALPIN, Thomas Rev; ; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1878-7-22;
(?)

HALPIN, William; ; Bayswater LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-12-31;
(Almost certainly a brother of James and George.  Father of the Rev Robert Crawford Halpin)

HALPIN, William; 60; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1865-4-28;
(Second son of the above, died age 63 at the home of his youngest brother, Rev RC Halpin in London, 54 Belsize Rd, or Sq, Hampstead.  Late Colonel of the Madras Native Infantry)

HALPIN, William Noel; 42; Limerick IRL>S Windsor CT; Hartford Courant; 1999-8-7.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 28 December 10 05:54 GMT (UK)
Which Captain Halpin is this?

Old Regular Line of Packets
From Dublin
For
NEW-YORK
Sailing on their appointed days
The First-class, Fast-sailing, Copper-fastened
American Packet Ship,
"W A V E,"
(Captain Halpin,)
Will Sail direct from Dublin without calling at
Liverpool or any other Port,
On the 5th of APRIL, 1850.

THIS beautiful Packet Ship, is now open to the inspection of persons intending to emigrate. She is fitted up in the most approved style, and ventilated thouroughly, with lofty between decks and commodious berths, she only requires a visit to command a preference. The Second Cabin accommodations are suited to meet the wishes of respectable families, and private State Rooms will be fitted up for any stated number at a very moderate expense. She is commanded by Captain Halpin, a well-known experienced seaman.

Each Passenger will be supplied with ten and a half pounds of bread-stuffs, 2oz Tea, and 1 lb of Sugar weekly, with a supply of Fuel, Water, and Medicines during the voyage, free of expense.

Those Packets afford all the advantages of direct embarkation, particularly to respectable parties who have much extra Luggage, any quantity of which will be taken WITHOUT ANY CHARGE, besides avoiding the wear and tear, expense, &c. of transhipment.

Parties in the country can secure their berths by remitting £1, and the remainder need not be paid till their arrival at the Ship. For all further information, apply to
JAMES MILEY, 22, Eden-Quay, Dublin

[Anglo-Celt - Published in Cavan, county Cavan March 29 1850
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1850/MAR.html]
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 28 December 10 05:59 GMT (UK)
MARRIAGES. - January 18, at Grace Church, Brooklyn-heights, New York, by the Rev. Dr. Vinton, Isaiah DECK, Esq., of Sullivan County, State of New York, to Louisa, youngest daughter of the late Rev. N. J. HALPIN, of Seville-place, Dublin.

Here again is a reference to the Rev NJH as a tenant of George Halpin

[Anglo-Celt - Published in Cavan, county Cavan February 10, 1853
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1853/FEB.html]
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 29 December 10 00:14 GMT (UK)
Re: Bill’s question: “I want to know who was the Richard Halpin who signed George out of Kilmainham Hospital in 1800”.

•   From what we already know George was about twenty at this time. The most likely person to sign him out would be his father or an uncle?
•   Brought up as a builder, George Halpin was appointed Inspector of Works to the Ballast Board in 1800. How would you achieve this at such a young age and so little qualifications?
•   Would it help if this was his father or uncle?: Richard Halpin of North Strand, Dublin, Bricklayer, was admitted a Freeman of the City of Dublin as a member of the Guild of Bricklayers by Grace Especial at Easter 1800.
•   George was also admitted a freeman of the City of Dublin by Grace Especial at Midsummer 1804 as a member of the Guild of Masons.
•   Richard Halpin represented the Guild of Bricklayers on the Common Council of Dublin in 1811 and again in 1814.

NOTE: Admission by Grace Especial also known as Special Grace was equivalent to the modern Honorary Freedom, and was reserved for dignitaries and for craftsmen who were not in a trade guild.
For a biography of all three Halpins see the following:

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/3703

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 December 10 19:53 GMT (UK)
As GEORGE HALPIN has just recently been shown to be a brother of James Halpin of Wicklow and since he himself declared that he was born in Wicklow, readers may be interested in just some of his many achievements, these listed in the Dictionary of Irish Architects.

If you click on the 'Works' tab at the following site, after reading the brief biography, it can be seen that he was responsible for lighthouses and other structures all over Ireland, including the Baily (Howth) Lighthouse, Richmond and Whitworth Bridges and Corn Exchange in Dublin, 2 new lighthouses at Wicklow Head replacing older ones, Poolbeg and Great North Wall lights in Dublin and at least a couple of bank buildings.

http://www.dia.ie/architects/view/2340#tab_biography
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 December 10 20:29 GMT (UK)
The following was contributed by Ray, obtained from the House of Commons Parliamentary Papers available to researchers.  I have added some bold and caps for highlighting.

1825 (505) Corporations, Ireland. -- 1. -- Stamps Department. An account of all ten shilling, one pound, and three pound stamps used by the Commissioners for Managing Stamp Duties in Ireland, since the 1st January 1817, (distinguishing the amount of each in every year), with the word "admission," marked thereon, or otherwise applicable to the admissions of persons into corporations, guilds or companies, in Ireland. -- 2. – Returns of the number of persons admitted members or bretheren of all corpoations, guilds or companies, in Ireland, since 1st January 1817; distinguishing the number admitted by birth, service or marriage. Page 12 of 20.

Corporation of Bricklayers and Plasterers:
Members admitted since the 1st day of January 1817.  (Selection)

1820: - July - - 24. JAMES HALPIN- - by Birth. (My caps)

Number admitted by Service - - - - - - 6.
by Birth - - - - - - - - 7.
by Marriage - - - - - 1.
by Grace Especial - 4
Total Number admitted since 1st
January 1817.................................... 18.

1830 (522) Voters, (Ireland.) Returns of the number of persons entitled to vote at the election of members for cities and boroughs in Ireland; specifying the number of electors for each place, so far as the same can be made up. Page 9 of 14.

FOR CITIES AND BOROUGHS IN IRELAND.
13. - DUBLIN CITY - continued.

Corporation of Cutlers, Painters and Stationers.
Return of the Number of Persons of the Corporation of Bricklayers and Plasterers who are entitled to vote at the Election of Members of the City of Dublin.  (Selection)

HALPIN, JAMES
HALPIN, RICHARD. (My caps)

On page 6 of the same document:

Corporation of Carpenters.
Return of the Freemen of the Corporation of Carpenters,&c.of the City of Dublin, entitled to vote at election of Members for said City. (Selection)

Arthur Battersby.
Henry J. Brownrigg.
John Brownrigg.
Richard Cotter.
Thomas Cotter.
Robert Crosthwaite (went to America).
Benjamine Eaton.
Benjamine Eaton jnr.
William Gore.
George Halpin.
George Halpin jnr.
William Halpin.

[All of the above names have connections with Halpin and/or Wicklow.  Note that these Halpins are now in the Carpenters rather than the Bricklayers.  If James Halpin was admitted to the Bricklayers in 1820 'By Birth' to a Guild that had Richard Halpin as a prominent member, might this indicate that this James Halpin's father was Richard?]
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 December 10 22:03 GMT (UK)
[The Dublin Journal, Nov. 8, 1810]

Common Council
Monday being election day for Representatives in the Common Council of the Corporation of Bricklayers and Plasterers, or guild of St.Batholomew, the numbers stood as follow :-
   
   Richard Halpin   54   
   Charles Thorpe, jun.   47   
   James Llewellyn   23   
   George Stevenson   7   
   Wm.Pemberton   2   
   B.Pemberton   2   
   David Johnstone   2   
Whereupon Messrs.Halpin and Thorpe were declared duly elected.

It should be noted, although surely coincidental, that the eldest child of George Halpin junior, Isabella Julia Villiers, married in 1861 at St Peter's C of I in Dublin Thomas Thorpe, farmer of Kilcooly Tipperary, later a schoolteacher living at Thurles Tipperary.  (Their eldest child, Isabella Julia Thorpe married in 1888 Charles John Heather of Heather's Shoes of Arran Quay, Dublin.)
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 December 10 22:46 GMT (UK)
•   George was also admitted a freeman of the City of Dublin by Grace Especial at Midsummer 1804 as a member of the Guild of Masons.

When George enlisted in (or was dragooned into) the militia about 1798, he gave his trade as Stone Cutter .  This may have been a fiction but he obviously had enough practical qualifications, experience and, perhaps most importantly, connections to get the job as Inspector of Works aged about 22.  The colonel of his militia was John Claudius Beresford of the Customs House, recently built.  Had George worked around this building, or with its architect, Gandon?

I will re-enter here a piece of my posting last May, in view of current developments.

GEORGE HALPIN Born WICKLOW, Wicklow. Served in [Not Known]. Discharged aged 22. Covering date gives year of discharge.  Miscellaneous: Abe
Date: 1800
[Source: The Catalogue of The National Archives
Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents WO 97/1184/103]

That his regiment is unknown is an indexing error, failing to identify his regiment.  However it is quite clearly stated in a number of places on the record to be the Loyal Dublin Regiment of Yeomen Infantry.  I believe this was a Militia Regiment, raised the previous year by its Captain Commandant, John Claudius Beresford. 

George Halpin was discharged with service of 1 year and 7 months "having received a wound in the right hand when drawing the charge from his Carbine it accidentally went off and the ball passed thro two of his fingers, which has deprived of the use of them, he is thereby rendered incapable of further service.  This accident happened on the 28th day of September 1799"

His description is as follows:

George Halpin, height 5' 10 1/2", age 22, Trade Stone Cutter, Born Wicklow, County Wicklow. 

The Surgeon's certificate notes;

"I do hereby Certify, that the above-mentioned George Halpin of the Loyal Dublin Yeomen Infantry has a wound in the right hand which he received on the 28th day of September 1799 when cleaning his Carbine, it accidentally went off, and the ball passed thro' two of his fingers, by which he is deprived of the use of them and rendered incapable of earning his Bread at his trade and whereby he is rendered incapable of further Service, and a fit Object of his Majesty's Royal Bounty of Kilmainham Hospital.
 
Given under my Hand the Day and Year above-mentioned

William Swan, Surgeon."
[Mike Shingleton, military history researcher.]

In the above 1799 discharge of George Halpin from the Loyal Dublin Regiment of Yeoman Infantry, his spidery signature (possibly with his left hand because his right had just been shot) is witnessed by a RICHARD HALPIN.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Wednesday 29 December 10 23:22 GMT (UK)
Any news of Ray,
is he still in ireland?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 31 December 10 02:11 GMT (UK)
Which Captain Halpin is this?

Old Regular Line of Packets
From Dublin
For
NEW-YORK
Sailing on their appointed days
The First-class, Fast-sailing, Copper-fastened
American Packet Ship,
"W A V E,"
(Captain Halpin,)
Will Sail direct from Dublin without calling at
Liverpool or any other Port,
On the 5th of APRIL, 1850.



This is Capt. Thomas Halpin as shown on the Manifest on arrival at The Port of New –York on 25th May 1850. ( 7 week trip). I’m happy that this is likely Thomas James Halpin, son of James and Anne Halpin,  of the bridge Hotel, Wicklow, and elder brother of Capt. Robert Halpin.   He would have been 28 at the time. The WAVE sailed into New York six times from Dublin or Liverpool between 1846 and 1851. (At the height of the famine emigration from Ireland) It will be interesting to see if Thomas was Captain on any other of those trips.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Friday 31 December 10 14:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Tavern,

Did you receive my message this morning?

Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Friday 31 December 10 15:50 GMT (UK)
HI Tavern,

Thanks for reply which I received after I had posted the above.

Wishing all researches not just Halpins, a very happy and healthy 2011

Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 02 January 11 03:31 GMT (UK)
ROBERT WELLINGTON HALPIN (c.1816-1883) was a prominent citizen of Wicklow Town.  (His obituary was posted to the first of these Wicklow Halpin threads at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270348.0.html on 16/4/2009 where it states that he was buried in the family grave in Wicklow churchyard.)  His wife, FRANCES MABELLA HALPIN, predeceased him the same year.  Her maiden name and their marriage are unknown, as are any other details of their origins but presumably they married before their first child was born in 1844. 

To place him in a relative time-frame to the other prominent Halpins in Wicklow Town, he was born about the same time that James Halpin married Anne Halbert (1815) and therefore he is very slightly older than their eldest children, Eliza 1816, Eaton C 1817, George H 1821, etc.  I do not know if Robert Wellington Halpin was born in Wicklow and, if not, he may not have grown up alongside these Halpin contemporaries.  But if not, where?   One suggestion as to whom his father may have been is a Robert Halpin who was a tide surveyor around the Port of Dublin, who may have been known to George Halpin there.  If so, might George have got young Robert preferment for his post/s in Wicklow?

Robert and Frances had seven known children:  Ellen M(abella?) 1844; Samuel 1846; Robert 1853; Emma 1855; Edwin Francis 1855; Frances Margaret 1858; Ada 1863.  All but Samuel and Edwin are thought to have not married.  As alluded to in the obituary, Robert reportedly took on some of his father’s roles in Wicklow but for how long after his father’s death is not yet known.  Ellen and Emma are said by Ray to have carried on the post office store for many years but died in relative poverty at advanced ages.

Ray has written here on various occasions about some aspects of EDWIN, his ancestor, who, according to the custom of the time, was disowned by the family for marrying a Catholic woman, Marianne Murphy, in Wexford.   I cannot add to those stories although there are some additional names added to that line.

Below is a tree chart of the known Robert Wellington Halpin family to assist with the instalment following.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 02 January 11 03:50 GMT (UK)
My purpose now is to write of the family of Samuel, the eldest son of Robert Wellington Halpin.  SAMUEL HALPIN (4/6/1846 – 7/1/1918) was born in Wicklow and he married, in 1871 at Wicklow Church of Ireland, MADELINE TURNBULL (18/10/1847 – 17/8/1925).  Madeline’s father was James Turnbull of Roxburgh, Scotland, and she was born in Edinburgh.  She had a few siblings who were born in Arklow and at her wedding James Turnbull was described as of the Wicklow Rifles.

Samuel and Madeline’s children were born in Co Louth where, in the 1901 Census, Samuel ‘s occupation is shown as Mill-Wright, living in Chord Road, St Laurence Gate, DROGHEDA Town.  (Could Samuel have learned to become a mill-wright in Wicklow Town?  I believe that the Kents and other merchants in Wicklow with whom the Halpins dealt may have been millers.)

Their known children were:  Robert James 1872; Margaret Frances 1874; Maria Rose 1876; Madeline M 1878; Samuel 1880-1885; Anne Christina 1882.  It would seem that Fanny, Maria (Ciss) and Annie Christina may not have married.

Most of these people and their families, with the exception of the family of Robert James Halpin, to whom I will return, are commemorated in two memorial inscriptions at St Peter’s Church of Ireland, Drogheda (not to be confused with the Catholic church there of the same name).  These have been transcribed as follows [Journal of the Old Drogheda Soc. 1992]:

Samuel, eldest son of Robert Wellington and Frances Mabella Halpin. Born in Wicklow 4th June 1846. Died at Drogheda 7th Jan.1918. Madeline M. his wife, eldest daughter of James and Margaret Turnbull.  Born in Edinburgh, 18th Oct.1847. Died in Drogheda 6th Nov.1925. Samuel son of the above.  Born 1st May 1880. Died 25th Jan.1885.  Maria Rose, (Ciss) their second daughter.  Born 26th Sep.1876. Died 27th July 1948.  Anne Christine their youngest.  Born 11 Dec.1883. Died 7th June 1964. "Peace Perfect Peace".

And

James Turnbull, third son of James Turnbull of Roxburgh, Scotland.  Born at Hollmount, 21st August 1814. Died at Drogheda, 15th April 1888. Also his grandson, Walter James Turnbull.  Born at Arklow 16th April 1878. Died at Drogheda 12 Sept 1880.  Also his grand-daughter Margaret Frances (Fanny) Halpin, died at Drogheda 6th June 1925. "She hath done what she could" Mark, XIV.8.  Also his youngest daughter Margaret.  Born at Wicklow 24th April 1860.  Died at Kinnitty, Kings County 3 Feby. 1928. "Blessed are the pure in heart".  His daughter Maria, widow of Edmund Rundle, late of Plymouth.  Born Dublin 22nd Feb. 1856. Died at Kinnitty, 11 Jan.1941 and interred here. "Thy Will Be Done".
 

Not mentioned in these is Madeline M Halpin who in 1901 married John MARSHALL in Drogheda and had two sons, Robert Cecil 1904 and John Ernest 1908.  This family in 1911 was living in Ballymena Co Antrim.  When Maria Turnbull, above, married widower Edmund Rundle when both were in late middle age (1905), the witnesses to the marriage were Margaret Frances Halpin and Robert Marshall.

Samuel and Madeline’s  eldest child, ROBERT JAMES HALPIN,  in the 1901 Census, while still unmarried, had moved to Rathdrum, Wicklow, as a National Schoolteacher where in the same household were his aunt Margaret Turnbull, housekeeper 40, and his sister Annie Christina 18, work-mistress.   He married near Thomastown Kilkenny in 1902 ALICE MYERS, also a National Schoolteacher, daughter of James, a butler, and Lizzie Myers and in the 1911 Census their family was still in Main Street, Rathdrum.

Robert and Alice had four surviving children: Samuel James 1905; Robert George 1907-1928; Elizabeth Madeline 1909; and Henry Grattan Halpin 1911.  Unfortunately I know nothing further of the sons but Madeline married, in the Naas district, William M D AITKEN and they had at least one son, George A Aitken.

That the family in Drogheda went to the trouble of inscribing their family’s dates in some detail, it is to be hoped that some descendants of this family may retain handed down mementos and documents that, hopefully, may go all the way back to Robert Wellington Halpin and his origins.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 02 January 11 05:47 GMT (UK)
The above Robert Halpin tide surveyor died in 1855 as shown by reprinting the following:
1856 (112) Accounts of supperannuations and retired allowances, in public departments, for the year 1855.  No. 1 - 1 - No. 38. (p. 23) Compensation Allowances ceased within the year: Dublin.....R. Halpin.....Tide Surveyor.....Died 30 April 1855.....£250 per annum.
That was tidy pension.
MUCH LATER.  Sorry to have to retract the above.  From the Cork Examiner -
May 9, 1855, page 2.
April 30, Richard Halpin, of Howth, co. Dublin, late surveyor in her majesty's customs.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 03 January 11 21:15 GMT (UK)
I wished to bring readers' attention to the site http://www.myhometown.ie/Wicklow/373/ where many old paintings and images of Wicklow can be seen.  It is a commercial site but there is no charge to view.  There are links to many places in the County.

For Wicklow Town, unfortunately never having been able to be there, I wondered if anyone can identify houses in any of the paintings that may have been associated with any of the Halpins that have been discussed here.  For example, there are quite a few images of Fitzwilliam Square, Halpin's monument and Main Street.
Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 07 January 11 08:36 GMT (UK)
Re the entry #152 above and the family towards the end, that of Robert James Halpin and Alice Myers who were National Schoolteachers living in Rathdrum, Wicklow, it transpires that they had an additional child, Alice Vera Halpin b.1913 in Rathdrum.  Vera, as she was named characteristically, married in 1952 a Harry Moore but it seems that they had no (surviving?) children.  Vera died aged 88 in 2001 at Tallaght.  A death notice in the Irish Times names her nephews George, Philip, Owen, Brian, Michael and Ben, and nieces Anne, Maddie, Christine, Monica, Margot, Hilda and Pat.  George Aitken was the only nephew known to date and so I feel that the remainder must be children of her brothers, Samuel James Halpin and/or Henry Grattan Halpin - to be discovered.

Elizabeth Madeline Halpin, widow of William Marshall Duncan Aitken, died in 1996 aged about 87, late of the family home at 172 Kimmage Road West, Terenure.  The newspaper notice names her son George's wife as Susanne and their children Helen, Duncan and Robert Aitken.

Back to Alice, wife of Robert James Halpin, both schoolteachers, when she died aged only 50 in 1927, they lived at the School House, Lucan.  Her husband lived on for many more years, dying aged 88 at the address in Terenure in 1960.  All the above are family of Robert Wellington Halpin of Wicklow.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Monday 10 January 11 16:12 GMT (UK)
If you go onto youtube, wicklow floods there is footage of the August bank holiday flood, 1965.  The Bridge, captain Halpin's birthplace can be seen with the flood water up to the ground floor windows.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: RichF on Wednesday 12 January 11 22:45 GMT (UK)
I am currently researching a Halpin family that inlcudes:
Sarah Halpin b.abt. 1825 married John Bainbridge before 1852 and migrated to Northumberland Co, Eng.
Census of 1861 Northumberland Eng. with Patick Halpin b.1832, Andrew Halpin b.1842 married to Jane,  Charles b. 1833 married to Ann, and James Halpin b. 1839 married to Mary Anne.  All born in Ireland.
Census of 1871 Northumberland England with mother Mary Halpin b. abt. 1804
John, Sarah and Mary came to the USA around 1880 and settled in Pennsylvania. Not sure if this is the same family, however census records for Patrick, James and Andrew Halpin show birthplace as Wicklow Ireland. They were coal miners and I believe they were Roman Catholic. I was hoping someone came across this family while researching. Trying to locate a town or parish in Wicklow to continue research. I'm more than willing to share my info with others interested. Any help, tips or advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rich
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Friday 21 January 11 15:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Marie Louise,

I came across this photo of Wicklow harbour, and noticed the chimney stack of the Kent Mill in Wicklow on the extreme left hand side. I hope you get this, if not let me know and I will mail it to you.
Maeve
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Friday 21 January 11 16:42 GMT (UK)
whoops, wrong photo. Cannot find the correct one at present will post later
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Friday 21 January 11 17:55 GMT (UK)
The second message explains why I was trying to work out where it was.   Thanks Maeve, look forward to seeing it.  Marie   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Friday 21 January 11 22:02 GMT (UK)
Further to the topic at the top of this page re descendants of Robert Wellington Halpin.  Henry Grattan Halpin, brother of the above Vera, has been found.  He attended Mountjoy School in Dublin and obtained a BA from TCD.  He then spent most of his life as a master, housemaster and cadets officer at the Portora Royal School, Enniskillen Co Fermanagh.  During the war he served as an officer with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.  For his continued military services he was awarded in 1959 the OBE.  When awarded, it was reported that he "is the son of Mr Robert J Halpin, 87-year-old retired teacher now living at Kimmage road, West, Dublin" and that he " was born at Rathdrum, Co Wicklow, 48 years ago".
Henry Grattan Halpin died at Enniskillen in July 1982 aged 71, leaving his wife Marie, son Philip Halpin and a daughter, Mrs Ann Morrell, Bangor.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Thursday 17 February 11 15:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Bill, Ray, Marie Louise and all contributors,

Miss the correspondence re the Halpin’s page. I have not been active either since before Christmas, but hope to get back soon.

Bill I hope you got my answer to use the Walk through Wicklow as you see fit. 

Have just found Emma Halpin in census of 1901, she was lodging with the McGuirk family, at b1 Market Square, Wicklow Town. It would be very hard to find her as her name was incorrectly transcribed. If you look at the Household return (Form A) it is possible to read it correctly as Halpin

Ralpin, Emma, age 55 Lodger, Church of Ireland, born Wicklow. Occupation Accountant not married.

C 1911 b14 Summer Hill (part of) (Wicklow Urban, Wicklow)

1. Ellen M Halpin age 67 yrs head of family, Church of Ireland, born Wicklow Town, House keeper, single.
2. Emma Halpin, age 56 yrs, Sister, Church of Ireland, born Wicklow Town, Accountant, single.

For an Accountant not to know her age seems a bit strange.
She was age 55 yrs on census 1901 and age 56 on census 1911.

Regards Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: jacquiv on Sunday 20 February 11 09:16 GMT (UK)
Hi all,  have been reading the threads/posts with much facination.  Am located in Australia and am trying to trace my Halpin relatives from Dublin.  My Grandmother was Mary Halpin (born circa 1912 died Nov 2011).  Her Father was Alexander Halpin (born circa 1891) married to Christine Byrne (born circa 1904).  Alexander's father was also Alexander Halpin (born circa 1858) married to Mary O'Reilly (born circa 1862).  Her mother was Hanora O'Reilly of Kildare.   I am not sure if there is any connection to any Halpins on this thread but would love to know if there are any connections.   My Grandmother Mary Halpin had a brother John Halpin.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you jacqui  v
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Tuesday 08 March 11 12:57 GMT (UK)
Porter's Directory 1910

   Halpin James Henry Wentworth Villas L.R.C.P.S.I., L&L.M., Physisian And Surgeon Medical Officer, Wicklow    Dispensary, Admiralty Surgeon, And Surgeon To The Royal Irish Constablulary

   Kennedy Francis Church Street And 17 Clare St Dublin Solicitor And Land Agent, Commissioner For Oaths, Agent    For The Royal Exchange Assurance Co.,
   Kennedy James New Street Baker, Grocer, And Dairyman
   Kennedy John Summerhill Mason
   Kennedy Mrs Mary Bridge Street Grocer And Dairy

Kent G A Abbey Street Family Grocer, Provision Merchant And Italain Warehouesman
Kent Mason S & Co, George And Sons South Quay Wholesale And Family Bakers And Flour Merchants

Wicklow Private Residents
Halpin Miss Bachelor's Walk
Halpin Miss Ida Wentworth Cottage Church Hill
Halpin James Henry L.R.C.S.I Wentworth Cottage Church Hill
Halpin James Main Street
Hamilton James Main Street
Kennedy Francis Church Street
Kennedy Miss Lydia Wentworth Place
Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 04 April 11 00:59 BST (UK)
The wife of Captain Robert Charles Halpin was Jessie Kelly MUNN.  If I had done more reading I might have known more about her before now.  However, for now it is worth pointing out something that I had not previously known.  Jessie's father JOHN MUNN was a very wealthy and influential man from Harbour Grace, Newfoundland, having been born in Rothesay, Bute, Scotland.  A Google search will turn up many facts.  However, one that gives a good summary is: http://www.hrgrace.ca/rothe.html.

At the time Jessie married Captain Halpin, her father's company back in Canada had over 8000 employees.  For whatever reason, by the time of the marriage, Jessie's father aged in his early 70s  seems to have handed over the reins of the companies to his son and partners and retired to Southport in Lancashire.

At the time, Halpin was living in Beckenham, Kent, where their 3 daughters were born.  As is well known, they returned to Wicklow, to Tinakilly House. 

It is thought that John Munn may have been the builder in 1847 of the original Jeanie Johnston 3 masted ship , one of the last sailing ships to ply the emigration route to North America.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Monday 04 April 11 14:57 BST (UK)
Nice to hear from you again Bill, I wondered why they married in Southport, so that explains it.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 06 June 11 08:50 BST (UK)
In the 1901 Census, living with a brother and sister Doyle (Edward widower 82 and Ellen not married 65) is a boarder WILLIAM HALPIN 70 not married.  All are Irish Church and of independent means - William declares his income is an annuity and the Doyles have income from property.  The address is the first house enumerated in Bond Street, Wicklow Town. 

In the 1911 Census, it is probably the same William Halpin, 81 single, C of I, now a retired Mariner born Wicklow, a boarder lodging at Glebe, Wicklow Urban, with widow Elizabeth Graham 77.

Anyone with an idea who this William Halpin might be?  I feel that I should know.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 21 July 11 23:54 BST (UK)
Just posting to assure everyone that our discussions are only in a lull and definitely are not defunct.
Ray has brought to my attention that there have been over 53,000 visits to our discussions, 26,733 to the 1st thread, 15,278 to the 2nd and so far 11,443 to this, which is nearing the end of its 18th page out of 20.
So, congratulations are due to all whose contributions have made this discussion of such wide interest, and more no doubt to come.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 16 September 11 15:56 BST (UK)
A William Nicholas HALFPENNY was baptised 9 Aug 1829 in Wicklow.

Denomination: Church of Ireland. Father: Nicholas HALFPENNY and mother:  Elizabeth.

In the 1901 Census in Bond Street, in Wicklow town, is a boarder WILLIAM HALPIN aged 70, not married.

In 1909 Dr.J.H.Halpin booked “One grave space” for a William Nicholas HALPIN at Wicklow Parish Churchyard.

 In the 1911 Census, a WILLIAM HALPIN, retired mariner, aged 81 single, is living at the Glebe, Wicklow town.

On Feb 18th  1916 a WILLIAM HALPIN of Abbeyville, Wicklow Town was buried to the “south of the HALPIN enclosure” in Wicklow Parish Churchyard.

Hope this is of some interest,
Tavern.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Saturday 17 September 11 09:03 BST (UK)
Of some interest, Tavern?!  I can't contemplate how many buttons this pushes. 
But first, are there any other instances of this family in the records?  Who would have written 'south of the Halpin enclosure'?  And possibly most telling - Dr James Henry Halpin, the senior male Halpin remaining in Wicklow, arranged this burial place adjacent to the rest of the family.  Was this William's father Nicholas a brother of James, George (and William)?
Your post has sent me back to re-reading all of the posts of this series.  First of all, didn't we all do well?  I recommend this exercise to all.
And then we have to consider the implications of this find.  Were these the last of the family to change their name from Halfpenny to Halpin?  (As an aside, may I ask how does the name Halfpenny sound in Irish parlance?  Is it the same as English and Australian - pronounced Hayp'ny?)
Cheers, Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 20 September 11 19:36 BST (UK)
Hi Bill,
In answer to some of your queries on the last posting:

The following inscription is on a very small headstone beside the Halpin enclosure :

Wm Hapny Died 27 Aug 1762 aged 55?

I checked this in the Church burial records and it states “27th August 1762 William Halfpenny” No other information. This grave is also “south of the Halpin enclosure” and would have been there before the Halpin graves.

As to who wrote “south of the Halpin enclosure” based on the handwriting was most likely The Rev.P.B.Johnson, the officiating clergy.

Another name mentioned on the burial record of this William Halpin was “funeral arranged by Frank Rooke.” There was a Francis Rooke living also at the Glebe in Wicklow in the 1911 census. Dr.James H. Halpin also died in 1916 the same year as this William.
We pronounce Halfpenny both ways but mostly "Hayp'ny".

Hope this helps,
Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 21 September 11 06:49 BST (UK)
Going back over earlier posts in this series, I have attempted, below, to bring together strands relating to the earlier Halpin and Halfpenny families and connections, to be read in conjunction with Tavern’s posts of the last few days.

P1.   Portarlington Halpin family – service in Royal Navy very much to be checked, but a maritime heritage seems to be indicated.  I speculated that they originated in a more maritime County, like Wicklow (or Louth).
James, Margaret and George Halpin’s mother Elizabeth, 75 at death in 1814, indicated birth about 1735, gives an indication for her husband John Halfpenny's birth.

P2.   Ray produces photocopies of original notes for Portarlington family’s entry in Burke’s.
1)   Nicholas William Halpin, officer in Royal Navy, later Headmaster Portarlington.
2)   Nicholas (Halpin), officer in Royal Navy, later Headmaster Portarlington.  [Is one of these confused with the other?]
3)   Children.  Susanna; William Henry (lived at Portarlington) m. Marianne Crosswaite (sic) Jan. 1787 St Thomas.  [NB St Thomas's was George Halpin’s parish.]

P3.   Magazine entry: death of Mrs Mary Ann Halpin of Portarlington June or July 1785.  [Wife of one of the above?]

P4.   Portarlington Schoolmasters:  1784-1791 Mr Halpin, English grammar school.
8th September 1808.  Death of Mrs WH Halpin.  [Presumably Marianne Cross(th)waite.]

P9.   Fanny Halpin’s 1858 statement the Bridge Hotel is “kept by members of the same family who kept it a century ago...”
Reminder that William Halpin, paymaster and father of Rev Robert Crawford Halpin, born c. 1777, repeatedly declares he was born in Wicklow.

P12.   Reminder of “Halpin’s Bridge Hotel Established AD 1765”.
Wicklow COI records
•   James son of John and Elizabeth Halfpenny baptised 22 Oct 1780
•   Margaret dau of John and Elizabeth Halfpenny baptised 28 Apr 1782
Rev Robert Crawford Halpin travels from Dublin to Wicklow 1862 to conduct with Rev Henry Rooke the funeral of Margaret Halpin, sister of James, George, and, surely confirmed by this, William.
Tavern also reports Wicklow COI 1700s Halfpenny baptisms by parent/s Thomas 1741; William 1741; William and Elizabeth 1755, 1759; Thomas and Margaret 1756; Thomas and Susanna 1764, 1765; William and Margaret 1792, 1795.
Maeve (Julia) first asks who was the William Halpin in the 1901 Census, single, aged 70 living in Bond Street Wicklow.

P15.   Tavern shows that Frederick was George’s son (and thus confirming how he was James’ nephew) and involves Robert (Crawford) Halpin, Clerk, as a party to deeds subsequent to George’s death in 1854.
Report of the 1st March 1859 burial of Frederick where, again, Rev Robert Crawford Halpin travelled down from Dublin to officiate with Rev Henry Rooke.
A childhood story from Marie Kent about (George’s daughter) Louisa going to a Wicklow dance while ill, ignoring her doctor father and dying of peritonitis. [This was in 1831, too early for any of her cousins to yet be doctors.]
1835, death of Richard Halpin, Howth.

P16.   Tavern reports again, of Richard Halpin of North Strand, Bricklayer, admitted a Freeman of the City of Dublin as a member of the Guild of Bricklayers by Grace Especial Easter 1800.  He represented the Guild on the Common Council of Dublin in 1811 and 1814.
1810, Richard Halpin receives the most number of votes at election of the Common Council of the Corpn of Bricklayers and Plasterers, or Guild of St Bartholomew.
HCPP reports show
1820   James Halpin to Corpn of Bricklayers by Birth
1830   James Halpin and Richard Halpin voting members of Corpn of Bricklayers and Carpenters.  Brownriggs, Cotters, Eatons, a Crossthwaite and Gore, George Halpin, George Halpin jnr, William Halpin all Freemen of Corpn of Carpenters &c of the City of Dublin entitled to vote at election of Members for said City.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 26 September 11 06:12 BST (UK)
Further to the above, I have now (at last) taken the step of formally adding William Halpin as a brother of George, James and Margaret, all as children of John and Elizabeth Halfpenny and adding a tree chart amended to show this.  It runs to 2 x Landscape pages.
Knowing that their mother Elizabeth was already in her late 30s or 40 when these four were born, it is to be expected that they had earlier siblings.  We have seen that only the last two, James and Margaret, are recorded in the Wicklow baptism registers.  So, if William and George were baptised elsewhere, so could have any number of others been baptised elsewhere.  A strong candidate is Richard, Freeman of Dublin, who was admitted to the Guild of Bricklayers 'by Grace Especial' which, in some reports, is a euphemism for 'by Birth'.  If this, it would imply that his/their father (or uncle?) was an earlier Guild member.
Additionally there is the tenuous possibility that John Halfpenny was a brother or cousin of Nicholas Halpin, whose principal male descendants were named Nicholas John.  It should even be taken into consideration that the Wicklow family, over and over, called family by their middle names and thus John Halfpenny may well have been baptised (somewhere) William John Halfpenny, for example.
And, did John Halfpenny have brother Nicholas (or a son Nicholas, thus a brother of our lot) who was the father of William Halpin, noted recently as buried adjacent to the Halpin plot?
We need to keep an eye out, especially, for naval/maritime and legal records involving any of the alternative names above.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 26 September 11 16:13 BST (UK)

Excellent summary, Bill.  And, as usual, the tree chart is invaluable.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 26 September 11 22:06 BST (UK)
If our resident family treasure, Marie Kent, was delighted to receive more relatives when George's family was added previously, this further increases her gain (and of course I receive Marie and the dwindling number of the Wicklow family).  Should Marie be mystified that these families were not discussed (in her hearing) within her Wicklow families, that could be because these families were always resident in Dublin and further afield since the very early 1800s, half a century before her grandparents were born.
The year her grandparents married, Rev Robert Crawford Halpin died, in London where that whole William Halpin family seems to have lived since the 1860s.  Also, it seems that there may be NO descendants of that family.
There remained family of George Halpin jnr in Dublin, Co Kildare and possibly elsewhere but they possibly had no knowledge of or connection with the Wicklow family.  George jnr's wife, Julia Villiers, widowed for 20 years, was by all reports haughty and domineering.  It is entirely conceivable that her children had no interaction with, or possibly even knowledge of or interest in, the Wicklow family.  I do, however, find it hard to believe that the young Wicklow doctors would not have had contact during their studies in Dublin.  Marie's great grandfather, Dr George Halbert Halpin, would have had extensive contact with George jnr's sister Louisa until he was about 10 and Louisa died in Wicklow.  I suspect that Louisa may even have been a sort of governess to the young children in the Bridge Hotel living quarters.
Also, one might have thought that the split of Frederick from the Dublin family, the disputation about Frederick leaving his estate to daughters of James' family and his burial in the family Wicklow plot might have rated mentions down the generations.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 27 September 11 13:14 BST (UK)
Hi BillW,

Congratulations on your summary of what has been gleaned so far and your updated “Family tree”. I agree with the conclusion that William, George and James are related (most likely brothers – I’m still concerned with Frederick leaving everything to his “nieces” and not “cousins”).
 
I would still put a “health warning” as regards the “Halfpenny/Halpeny/Hapny” connection even though much of the research is pointing that way. I believe we need some more definitive evidence.

 As we have not yet found Halpins in Wicklow pre 1799 we are left with three possibilities:

1. Yet to be discovered the earlier “Wicklow Halpins” pre 1799 or
2. They came from elsewhere to Wicklow  or
3. Indeed a name change did occur around the end of the eighteenth century.

Edward MacLysaght (1887 –1986), the foremost authority on Irish surnames, and who was the first Chief Herald of Ireland and administrator of the Genealogical Office, points out in his book ”More Irish Families”  that while “there has been a tendency to abbreviate Halpeny to Halpin. All the best known men of the name have in fact been Leinster men and have all born the surname Halpin not Halpeny.” He gives some examples including  “....and George Halpin, senior (1779-1854), architect and inspector of lighthouses.”

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 27 September 11 15:46 BST (UK)
Yes Tavern, I agree.  But.  From recollection, the term 'nieces' was used in a newspaper report of the Halpin v Halpin case.  Set against this is the memorial reference to Frederick being James' nephew plus the other documentary indications.  In the absence of direct evidence there remains only a balance of probability.  I hope my cautiously arrived at conclusions have been set forth with a healthy degree of tentativeness.
Leinster includes all the locations we have encompassed in these discussions, from Drogheda in Louth to Portarlington in Laois, to Carlow, Kildare, Wexford and Wicklow.  MacLysaght's pronouncement is pretty high handed and elitist, not atypical of a chief herald, and not contemporaneous.  Consider his proposition that Halpin was an old Irish name.  Would that not have been one of a number of reasons for people who had the name Halfpenny to choose to adopt the name Halpin?  It would have been more helpful for him to back up his example of George Halpin with some evidence.  That would have been useful.  In the absence of which, I very much doubt that he had any real knowledge if George's father, or certainly grandfather, had been Halfpenny or Halpin.
We have witnessed most recently the example of William Halpin, mariner, seemingly somehow connected to the Wicklow Halpins and also seemingly the most lingering case of a switch from Halfpenny to Halpin, well into the 1800s.  I agree with the "health warning" but, on the current balance of probabilities....
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 27 September 11 20:24 BST (UK)
                                How the death of the above mentioned Wm. Halpin, Mariner, was reported in the Wicklow Newsletter & Arklow Reporter Saturday February 19th 1916.

“With regret we have to chronicle the death of Mr. Halpin, at the advanced age of 87 years, which sad event removes from amongst the inhabitants a member of one of the oldest and most respected generations in Wicklow, and which took place on Wednesday night last. Through life he was a sea-faring man of an adventurous character, and there was hardly a portion of the globe that he had not visited during his long career at sea. Honesty, courtesy, and uprightness characterised his every walk of life and to mark the esteem in which he was held, on the announcement of his death flags on the vessels in the harbour were flown at half-mast, and blinds drawn on private houses, while the shops all over the town were shuttered. Internment took place yesterday (Friday) in the Wicklow Churchyard, a large and representative assemblage being present to pay his remains the last parting tribute of respect.”

Regards,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Wednesday 28 September 11 00:09 BST (UK)
Lovely.  The art of the short obituary has been lost.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 28 September 11 09:23 BST (UK)
Returning to my earlier attempt at a lists of IFs.
IF John and Elizabeth Halfpenny/Halpin do not have children baptised in Wicklow until the 1780s and they were born in the 1730s or 1740, they doubtless had children born elsewhere.
IF the William Halfpenny who was buried next to the later Halpin enclosure in 1762 was aged 55, he is a standout candidate to be the William Halfpenny who had a son John baptised in Wicklow in 1741.
IF so, this John was a contemporary of Elizabeth, estimated to have been born about 1735.  This John Halfpenny, father William, becomes a candidate to be the husband of Elizabeth and father of William, George, James and Margaret.
IF they were the parents of Richard Halpin, bricklayer (builder) in Dublin, and Richard was inducted into the Guild by (birth), then John was possibly in, or had been in, or around Dublin as a mason, builder or merchant.
Or, IF, as has been suggested, John had been a mariner or even naval officer, had they been in England, Dublin, Cork , Louth or Galway and had John made some sort of fortune at sea, as sailors did in those days?
IF any of the above, why did they (re)appear in Wicklow?  Could it have had anything to do with politics developing around the 1780s and it was best for his family to get out of Dublin?  Or, did he have the Bridge Hotel to take over from a brother, his mother or any other family member?
All the above have Tavern's health warnings applied, in heavy lettering.  But, they are theses to work on.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 04 October 11 03:48 BST (UK)
Noting a few records for possible future relevance.
[/list]Richard Halpin, death Jan/Mar 1825 Monaghan age 60 est b 1765
[/list]Oswald Robinson, bap 27/1/1782, Kill St Nicholas Waterford to Richard and Margaret Robinson [Oswald used down generations of this family.]
[/list]Oswald Montgomery, death 1866 Cavan age 77 est b 1789
[George Halpin's wife Elizabeth born c 1785, 2nd son named Oswald.]

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/index.html:
Interesting that all 8 Halfpenny entries in the 1600s are COI.
Bap. Paul 2/4/1676 at St Audoen, Mar. Of Mary 1/1/1662 at St Bride, and Burials of Catherine 17/5/1670 at St Michan, and Frances 27/9/1686, Mary 27/9/1686, Charles 20/3/1682, Patrick 20/3/1682 and Jospoor (sic) 21/5/1683 all at St Catherines.

1700s, two Co Carlow COI parishes produce some interesting names.
Carlow COI: Halfpenny baptisms Unnamed 25/3/1759, Matthew 20/4/1748, parents James/Lydia.  Burials Mathew 17/6/1754, Mary 24/1/1749 aged 23, George 1/12/1750.
Aghold COI [I am pretty sure that this was, and is, the parish church of the BAYLEY family of Moneygrath in Co Carlow, just over the Wicklow border, whom Marie has said are cousins.] Baptisms of James 10/1765 and Susanna 18/2/1759 to William and Margaret, William 3/1/1764 and Thomas 11/2/1759 to Jacob and Catherine, and Matthew 20/4/1748 to James and Lydia, which is the same as the Matthew baptism registered at Carlow. [A Susanna is recorded in Burke's as a daughter of Nicholas in Portarlington at this same time.]
Aghold Marriage of William Halfpenny and Margaret Cowper 1758.  Burials of Susanna 18/2/1759, unnamed 1/6/1766, James 4/1758.
Dublin COI Halfpenny and Halpin 1700s parish registration run to 91, which you can browse at http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=halfpenny&name2=&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&diocese=DUBLIN+(COI)&parish=&century=1700&decade=&sort=&pageSize=100&submit=Search.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 04 October 11 22:03 BST (UK)
Examination of  the VESTRY BOOKS for Church of Ireland Wicklow (1710-)

The Vestry minutes normally show the Election of Officers for the coming year such as Church Wardens, Sidesmen, etc. and are signed by some of the local landed gentry. From time to time they include lists of people paying "Cess" and accounts information. There appears to be at least one Vestry per year – usually more.
I hope these minutes will help in locating some early information on Halpins and their possible relations in Wicklow. Here are some of the results:

1.   At a vestry meeting held on 26th March 1733 Mr.Thomas HALBERT was chosen as a sidesman.
2.   Thomas HEAPENY was ? in 1742
3.   Elected Church Warden in 1749 was a Thomas HALBERT
4.   In 1771 among the list paying “the CESS” were Mrs.EATON, Thos HALFPENNY, John HALFPENNY and Thos HALBERT.
5.   14 November 1787 minutes signed by James HALBERT (among others).
6.   Minutes signed in August 1788 by Eaton COTTER.(among others).
7.   In 1789 Eaton COTTER was a warden.
8.   June 1790 Vestry minutes signed by among others, Thomas HALBERT and Thomas HALFPENNY.
9.   1791 minutes signed by Wm HALFPENNY (among others).
10.   1793 and 1795 minutes signed by Eaton COTTER (among others).
11.   Wm HALFPENNY (among others)  signed Vestry minutes October 1798.
12.   Wm. HALPIN was elected Church Warden in 1801 and 1802
13.   Minutes signed by Wm HALPIN in 1801, (among others).
14.   Vestry of 20th April 1802 signed by Wm HALPIN (among others).
15.   Minutes of Vestry 3rd November 1803 signed by, among others, Eaton COTTER.
16.   Vestry 3rd April 1804 – minutes signed by Wm HALPIN and Eaton COTTER (among others).
17.   Among the “proprietors names” listed paying “CESS” in 1804 – (Of a total of 188)  were Mr.John HALBERT; Mr.Wm HALPIN; Mrs. Eliza HALPIN; Widow HALBERT.
18.   Vestry minutes of 22nd January 1807 signed by James HALPIN (among others).


Hope this is of some interest,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 05 October 11 00:06 BST (UK)
Tavern’s Vestry Book examinations are important.  In one respect, they may indicate when the name change occurred, if it occurred.
In 1791 and 1798, Wm Halfpenny signed the minutes.  In 1801 & 1802, Wm Halpin was elected Church Warden and he signs the minutes in 1802 and 1804.  (Tavern, any similarity in the signature handwriting?)  So, did the more streamlined name usher in the new century, a mere 210 years ago now?
Of the four William Halfpenny entries reported by Tavern as having children baptised in Wicklow (or being baptised), which one might this be?  (Or, I suppose, which ones are these?).   I’ll cut and paste Tavern’s information from Page 12.
WILLIAM son of THOMAS Halfpenny baptised 17th April 1741
JOHN son of WILLIAM Halfpenny baptised 24th May 1741
ISAAC son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 1755?
MARGARET daughter of THOMAS and MARGARET Halpenny 1756?
JOHN son of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH Halfpenny 10 June 1759
CHARLES son of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 5 August 1764
SUSANNA daughter of THOMAS and SUSANNA Halfpenny 1765?
JAMES son of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 22nd October 1780
MARGARET daughter of John and Elizabeth HALFPENNY baptised 28th April 1782
NICHOLAS of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 30 June 1792
MARGARET of WILLIAM and MARGARET Halfpenny 9th Oct 1795
Is the Mrs Eliza Halpin in the 1804 minutes the wife of William or John?  John Halfpenny only appears once in the minutes, in 1771, until the baptisms in 1780 and 1782, and then no more.  Prolonged absences? 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 06 October 11 19:28 BST (UK)
HALPIN V. HALFPENNY
From the VESTRY BOOKS

From Church Accounts in the Vestry book-

1.   In 1808 Mary HALPIN received £5-0-0.
2.   In 1809 Mary HALFPENNY was paid £5-0-0.
3.   In 1811 Mary HALFPENNY was paid £5-0-0.
4.   In 1812 "cash for Widow HALPIN £5-0-0".
5.   In 1814 “By Cash to Mrs. Mary HALPIN £5-0-0” was in the accounts.
6.   In 1815 from the accounts “By cash to Mary HALFPENNY £5-0-0”
7.   In 1816 “By cash to Molly HALPINS salary £5-0-0”
8.   In 1817 “By cash to Mary HALFPENNY Salary £5-0-0”
9.   In 1818 “By cash to Mary HALFPENNY Salary £5-0-0”
10.  In 1819 “Paid Molly HALFPENNY £5-0-0”

This looks like the same person, showing the interchangeability of the surname at that time?  and also I wonder who was this Mary HALPIN?

The Vestry minutes were signed by James HALPIN (among others) in 1807, 1808,1810,1811,1812,1814.

From Church burial records:

On the 19th September 1828 a burial took place in Wicklow of Mary HALPIN aged 75 years.


Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 06 October 11 21:37 BST (UK)
Where's Molly?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
We have never seen any other instances of a non Catholic Halpin family in Wicklow Town than the one/s we have been researching.  So indeed, who's Molly?  A recipient of charity of the parish, had she been cruelly widowed, perhaps a husband lost at sea?  If so, her unnamed husband was Halfpenny/Halpin.  Born about 1753, she was a contemporary of Isaac Halfpenny, above.
Keep in mind that William Nicholas Halpin, who was buried in 1916 in a plot secured by Dr James Halpin, was baptised in 1829 as Halfpenny, parents Nicholas and Elizabeth, a year after Molly was buried as Halpin.  As Tavern notes, interchangeability occurred at these times and it took more time for some families than others.

James Halpin married Ann Halbert in 1815 yet he was signing the minutes from 1807, when he was aged about 27.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Sunday 09 October 11 20:05 BST (UK)
Wife of William HALPIN

William HALPIN, Paymaster in the 1st Light Dragoons, King's German Legion. William served in the Peninsular war under Field Marshal the Duke of Wellington, and was married to Elizabeth ESMOND.

I notice from a post from Bigbird68 #135 in April 2010 that Eleanor Sophie Halkett, nee Halpin includes her grandmother's name in two of her children’s names.
 Esmonde Robert Crawford Halkett, b 31st July 1883, bapt 27 August 1883, St Peter’s Belsize Park, Hampstead, family at 3 Hemstall Road, West Hampstead
 Died 1884, Hampstead. Aged 1

 Moira Katherine Esmonde Halkett, b 16 October 1890, Hampstead, bapt 16 November 1890, St Peter’s, from Broadhurst Gardens, Hampstead; no evidence for marriage or death in England. 

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 10 October 11 04:16 BST (UK)
Agree with all that except...  I have not registered in anything that BigBird/Ronald posted showing the marriage of William to Elizabeth Esmond.  May I ask where that was found?  Their eldest known child was Richard Halpin (that name again) born c. 1799 so presumably they wed no later than then. 
Their last child Rev Robert Crawford H's wife was Eleanor Wallace, married in Dublin but of a Scottish family, father Robert Wallace.  Their son George William Halpin, engineer, lived in Edinburgh until he and his wife departed for Buenos Aires around 1890.  George's wife was Kate Wemyss from Edinburgh.  Wemyss is BigBird's family.
A lingering question is, what was William doing until 1807, when he got the Paymaster appointment?  Their 4th known child George was born in October that year.  We know the exact date of most of his sons' births from their East India Company applications.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Monday 10 October 11 12:19 BST (UK)
More on William HALPIN

From the RCB Library in Churchtown in the Tullamore Register Index, Church of Ireland, Baptism 1807 October. Child: George HALPIN, Father William HALPIN, Paymaster K.G. Dragoons, Mother: Elizabeth ESMOND.

With regards to what “William was doing until 1807, when he got the Paymaster appointment?”
From RCB Library Baptisms for Church of Ireland Wicklow.
Baptism July 3rd 1805, John, son of CAPTAIN  William HALPIN and his wife Elizabeth.

(I think I’ve seen Limerick mentioned as the birthplace of John elsewhere on this thread?).

If this is William he was already serving as a Captain in 1805.
Hope this helps,
Tavern
       
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 10 October 11 13:42 BST (UK)
OK, that's amusing.  Someone must have supplied to me (because there is no way I would have ordered an LDS film for Tullamore) or I have miscopied it as the following : Extract from the Register Book of the Parish of (Killeseide?) alias Tullamore in the County of King's County Ireland.  George Halpin Son of William and Elizabeth Halpin was born the 3rd of October 1807 and Christened October 121th 1807 by the Revd William (illegible).  Signed Joseph Meredith Curate, Geo McMullen and Wm Deverell wardens [Film 1951890 L/MIL/9/162 pp373-75].  I have now amended to Esmond.
At the site http://kglinireland.blogspot.com/: 1807.  January 14th - Promotions KGL : 1st Regiment of Dragoons, William Halpin, Esq. to be Paymaster, vice Schnidern, who resigns. 1st Regiment of Light Dragoons.  But I had not been able to inspect Army Lists this early to confirm.  It says here it is a Promotion.  But Tavern has shown he was already a Captain in 1805.
From the book History of the King's German Legion by North Ludlow Beamish (via Google Books) I noted re George's birth: 1st Regiment of Dragoons of the King's German Legion, in which his father Captain William Halpin was serving as Paymaster, was based at Tullamore from August 1807 (25 officers, 6 staff officers, some 600 men and 638 horses). There was an incident between troopers of the KGL and local Irish Militia in Tullamore in which a number were wounded and two died.
In my Webster family, I have a number of English Army officers.  The regimental records for these men have been superb sources of information.  It is quite possible that, if a commission was purchased for William, the records may show by whom, where he came from, etc.  If, as many did, he started as an Ensign at about age 16, he could be in army records from as early as 1793.  The way that the army moved around, he could have met Elizabeth anywhere.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Sunday 30 October 11 01:10 BST (UK)
I wish to place on record the sad death in Paris this last week of Elizabeth (Libby) Alexander.  Elizabeth was born at Swallowfield, Berkshire (near Reading) on August 20, 1912, elder child of Dr George Halpin and Antoinette Berthe Ermerins.  She was 99.
Her father was the elder son of William Oswald Halpin of Foxrock, Dublin, who was the eldest son of George Halpin junior.
Libby's family had its share of tragedies.  Her father's only brother and fellow medical graduate from Dublin, Dr William Oswald Halpin, Lieutenant Royal Army Medical Corps, was killed in the last weeks of WW1 (Libby was 6) and is buried in the Commonwealth War Graves at Villers-Bretonneux.  He was unmarried.
Libby probably had an idyllic upbringing with her brother, who went up to Cambridge University.  However that brother, George Ermerins Halpin, Captain Royal Army Services Corps, was killed in Egypt in 1942 (Libby was 30) and is buried at the Commonwealth War Graves cemetery at Alexandria (Hadra).  He too was unmarried.
I am uncertain about the details of Libby's marriage to (George?) Alexander but they had no children.  Libby is to be laid next to George at  Cimetière du Père-Lachaise, Paris, on November 2.
I am happy to be able to say that over the past year I have been able to send to Libby pictures of her brother's grave in Egypt and of her grandmother, Anna Maria Burgess, whom she remembered instantly, which apparently she treasured.
Because of all the above, the entire senior branch of George Halpin junior's family dies out with Libby.  While there are many other more junior descendants, myself included, I believe shortly there may be no descendants carrying the name of Halpin. 

Later entry: I have received some photos of Libby.  One is of her standing next to the main gates to the centuries old Swallowfield Church.  In prominent lettering right across the gates is written:  IN MEMORY OF GEORGE HALPIN - DOCTOR & FRIEND 1882 1958

A fine tribute to our man, born and educated in Dublin, descended from Wicklow by family attestation, one of at least 13 doctors to come from the family.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Sunday 30 October 11 09:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks Bill, that was sad to read, I wish we could get in touch with the Richard Halpin I remember hearing about, I never remember hearing about a marrage though.   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 01 November 11 18:59 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas, Dublin
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"Register of the Parish of St.Thomas, Dublin for the years (1750-1791)"  is available as a publication, edited by Raymond Refausse, published in 1994 and can be purchased from The RCB Library (see details on their website).

I went through this sometime ago, for all Births, Marriages and Burials for those years and unfortunately the only HALPIN entry is the marriage of William Henry HALPIN, gent and Ann CROSTWAITE, 23rd January 1787, REV. Dr. PAUL. (This info we already have).

The records from around 1800 were badly damaged by the fire in the records office in the Four Courts and make difficult and (sometimes impossible) reading. The main book of records of BMD (REF: P80 1.4) was badly scorched and also water damaged obliterating many records.
I promised Billw I would look at these records to see if anything could be found as this was the parish of George Halpin Sen. This will take some time to complete but here is an update and hopefully will cheer Bill up a little and progress this thread further.

I found a strange entry for HALPIN on 17 July 1823. On this date three entries were entered together as having been "forgotten " as follows:

George of George & Elizabeth  N.B. Baptised Jan 20th 1808
Oswald of George & Elizabeth N.B.  Baptised Jan 20th 1810
Isabella of George & Elizabeth N.B. Baptised Jan 25th 1812.

Also a note beside these records: "See 31st July 1825".

More later,
Regards,
Tavern

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 01 November 11 22:16 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas Cont.

The following carry a "health warning" due to the condition of the records and my ability to decipher them

Baptism  13th Nov 1803 Frederick Horatio of John and Jane HALPIN

Baptism 31st March 1807 William of Richard and Sarah HALPIN.

Baptism 21st September 1813 Louisa daughter of Richard and Sarah HALPIN



I wonder if the above Frederick Horatio is the same Frederick Horatio who married CAROLINE STAMER of DAWSON ST on 12 November 1830?

Also here is that name  "RICHARD"  HALPIN again.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 02 November 11 02:00 GMT (UK)
Dublin COI Parish Clontarf.
Baptisms.  The Year 1813, p2, No.11
Charlotte Halpin Daughter of Richard & Sarah Halpin was Born Monday May 31th (sic) 1813 and Christened in Church Tuesday June 8th 1813.  Registered June the 8th 1813 by me Charles Mulloy Rector.
[http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/479d180005287]

Extract from the Register Book of the Parish of St Thomas's in the City of Dublin.  Oswald Son of George and Elizabeth Halpin baptized 10th day of January 1810.  Resident Clergyman's or Session Clerk's Signature.  Baptized by me, John Tea (?), Curate of St Thomas's.
[LDS Film 1951860 L/MIL/9/163 pp281-283: This film is titled East India Company cadet papers, 1789-1860]
Whatever the miniscule discrepancy (which Tavern has double checked)  Oswald was baptised in January 1810, doubly confirmed.  Thanks Tavern for all this.

There may be two couples, Richard and Sarah, each having a daughter baptised in 1813, one in Dublin, one at Clontarf.  Maybe the 2nd of these became the harbourmaster at Howth.

Names flag:  George senior's daughter here ISABELLA.  George junior's first daughter ISABELLA JULIA, bap 1834.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Thursday 03 November 11 10:56 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas Cont.



The usual "health warning" due to the condition of the records

17th August 1817 George HALPIN married Elizabeth BOWEN or BOWYN


Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 04 November 11 18:59 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas Cont.
[/b]

The usual "health warning" due to condition of the records

BAPTISM 25th Oct 1818 Frederick son of John and Elizabeth HALPIN


N.B.  This record, the previous few records posted and a few yet to be, have raised some doubts and questions in my mind and in the mind of others behind the scenes. Also an observation by Billw last year when we first discovered a Frederick was the son of George senior (Reply #144 in December) "Frederick is very much a late child for George senior and his wife Elizabeth (surname still unknown). "
Today I revisited the RCB and there found a record, badly burnt and crumpled which, with the grateful help of the staff, we deciphered  the content which will help to clearly explain this story in the next post.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Friday 04 November 11 23:57 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas Cont.
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The usual "health warning".

Proposition:  George Halpin (Senior) may have married twice.
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A badly scorched and crumpled record in the St.Thomas records, dated July 31st 1825, reads as follows:

“The entry of the baptism of Frederick Halpin dated 25th October 1818 should be the son of George and Elizabeth.
The entry of Mr.George Halpin’s three children on the 17th of July 1823 should be of George and Isabella instead of George and Elizabeth which was entered by mistake.”



Comments:

George and Isabella had at least three children: George (junior), Oswald and Isabella (Louisa?).

George married Elizabeth Bowen/Bowyn 17 Aug 1817 and had, at least, the following children:

(1) Frederick baptised 25th Oct 1818
(2) Arthur baptised 5th Jul 1820 (the name is a bit smudged but I’m happy it’s Arthur).
(3) Charlotte baptised 13th Jan 1822
(4) John or Grace baptised 15th or 22nd June 1823 (crumpled and misaligned so difficult to decide the correct name and date.)
(5) Sidney baptised 12th Sept 1824.  (Note: James Halpin of Wicklow had a “Sidney” two years later in 1826).

I’ve edited my post #202 above to reflect the dates 1823 and a note referring to 1825.

I’m sure the above is going to create a lot more questions but for now, hopefully, you have Elizabeth’s maiden name, Frederick’s Baptism and his relationship to George (Junior). Also most important for all you Wicklow/Dublin Halpins 4 more members of the family.

Hope this is of interest,
Tavern


Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Tuesday 08 November 11 22:19 GMT (UK)
Parish of St.Thomas Cont
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Burial Record 10th May 1822 Charlotte Halpin aged 3 months.

This looks like George and Elizabeth's daughter mentioned above who was baptised 13 Jan 1822.

Had a second look at item (4) above "John or Grace". I'm happy this reads:

John baptised 15th June 1823 of George and Elizabeth Halpin.

Regards,
Tavern
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Thursday 10 November 11 11:20 GMT (UK)
Have been absent for a while, but still thinking of you all. What do you think of this interesting find?

The Wicklow Town Commissioners Rental of the Corporation Estate, 1860, Wicklow:
                                      Printed by William McPhail, Main Street.

Wicklow Corporation Rentals, 1860

Page
 No.     No of Lease   Lessees   Name of Under Tenant   Description of Holding   Where situated   Contents in Statute Measure   Date of Lease   Term   Year’s Rent   Griffith’s Valuation   Leases when Expire   Observations
1   38   Thomas Halfpenny by Mrs Gregg   1 tennant   Thatched cabin & garden   Colley-street
      25th March 1763   99 yrs
   6s.6p   £2.15.0
   25 March 1862   
1   51   Archibald H. Foulks by Robert Gun Cunningham    Dr. George Halpin   House & Yard
   South Quay      25th March 1775
   99 yrs      £21.0.0   25 March 1874   
2   65   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Government    Coast Guard House   North Quay      29th Sept 1822
   99 yrs   £1.2.2.
   £12.0.0.   29 Sept 1921   
...   ...   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Francis Synge Esq.   Stores & Yard
   North Quay      29th Sept 1822
   99 yrs
      £9.0.0.

   29 Sept 1921   
2   66   Ditto by Miss Halpin   John Byrne   Stables & Coach House
   Bond St.       29th Sept 1827
   99 yrs
   £2.17.6                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            £6.0.0.   29 Sept 1926   
...   ...   ditto   Wm Halpin & Others   3 new slated houses & yard   Ditto      Ditto   99 yrs
      £15.0.0.   ...   
2   68   James Halpin & Miss Halpin   Mr. Marshall   Bridge Hotel   Bridge-street      29th Sept 1831   99 yrs
   £6.17.7   £40.0.0.   29 Sept 1930   
3   81   Robt. H. Thomas  by Miss Halpin      Walled in yard   Bath-street      25th March 1835   99 yrs
   £1.15.0.   £3.0.0.    25th March 1934   
3   108   James Halpin &
Edwd. Kinshela      2 Thatched houses   Colley Well      25th March 1851   31 yrs   5s. 3d.   £2.0.0.   25 March 1872   
3   109   James Halpin by
Mrs Gregg   William Bennett & Others   6 slated dwellings ditto   Bond St.      Ditto   75 yrs   £5.0.0.   £21.15.0
   25 March 1916   
4   151   John Byrne & Frederick Halpin by Ditto   Miss Halpin,

Ditto   Dwelling House, Stable & Yard   South Quay      29th Sept 1856
   74 yrs   £10.0.0.   £20.15.0
   29 Sept 1930   
4   172   Dr. George Halpin   self   House & Yard
   South Quay      25th March 1856   yearly   £2.0.0.   £8.0.0.   29 Sept 1930   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Thursday 10 November 11 11:22 GMT (UK)
hope you can follow, it did not print as arranged
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 15 November 11 19:29 GMT (UK)
I hope I am successfully attaching images of a stamp issued and a coin stamped, each bearing the image of Captain Robert Charles Halpin 1836-1894.

A summary from a cousin in Australia re the coin:  Re Captain Halpin's face on a silver coin, I have been endeavoring to purchase one. They were
commemorative  coins and not legal tender. The Captain's estate provided a foundation with funds for charity which lasted  many years. The coin has a  seamen's orphanage on the reverse side and was awarded annually for outstanding junior swimming champions. The image was sourced from the Internet.

Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Wednesday 16 November 11 08:44 GMT (UK)
I have the stamp, but didn't know about the coin, what is the story behind it?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 30 November 11 00:54 GMT (UK)
Following Tavern's discoveries from the very difficult records of St Thomas Dublin, my George Halpin family has been quite transformed.  I have attached a report reflecting the current situation. A number of assumptions and leaps of faith have been taken, out of necessity or application of judgement.

George and now discovered first wife Isabella's first known child was George junior.  Death and other reports indicate he was born around 1804 but his baptism was in 1808.  Therefore we can only estimate that George and Isabella married anytime from 1803 to 1807.  There are indications that their marriage may not have been in the same diocese.  Wexford or Waterford are possibilities, even Meath.  At the time, George was tackling the modernisation of the Port of Dublin.  I believe that he travelled to England and possibly Scotland to research latest dredging and harbour building techniques.  It is even possible that George met Isabella in his travels within Ireland or abroad and they married at her church, wherever that was, and not in Dublin.  It is my sincerest hope that one day we come upon this marriage to find out whom my ancestor Isabella was.  Does the name of her second son, Oswald, contain a clue?

Isabella’s last recorded child was Isabella, baptised January 1812.  George remarried in 1817, so Isabella could have died at any time between those events.  It is likely that she died in Dublin and her burial record is one of the very many St Thomas records lost or damaged.  However, in 1810, George was given additional responsibilities as the Inspector of Light(house)s, entailing his visiting all parts of the Irish coast.  If Isabella ever accompanied him, it is possible she could have died away from Dublin and her death may yet be found.

The most difficult decision has been what to do with George’s daughter Louisa who died in Wicklow in 1834.  Tavern and I have both come tentatively to the conclusion that Isabella’s last child Isabella was in fact “Isabella Louisa”.  There are some date and age issues but they are explicable.  From about 1814 to 1818, George would have been a frequent visitor to Wicklow designing and building his two new lighthouses there.  His brother James had married in 1815 and surely George stayed with James at the Bridge Hotel on his visits, sometimes with young Isabella Louisa.  When George remarried in 1817, did James and Ann offer to take the young girl and, in their family habit, call her by her middle name?  (Or was she even Louisa Isabella?)

Completely unknown to me were not only that Elizabeth was George’s second wife (and not my ancestor) but also that they had more children.  This may in part be because it seems that none of them survived to George’s death except Frederick, and he not long after that.  Out of so many children it seems only George junior produced descendants, from his very peculiar marriage.

Junior’s first child was named Isabella Julia Villiers in honour of his dead mother and his wife.  Her first child, grandchild and great granddaughter were all named Isabella Julia.  The first child of Junior’s son George was named Mary Isabella, Mary being his wife’s mother’s name.  So, the family did its best to commemorate Isabella, whom we have only recently discovered, thanks to Tavern.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 30 November 11 04:51 GMT (UK)
OSWALD
Marriage at St Mark Church of Ireland Dublin, Oswald Edwards to Mary Wickham on 14 June 1778, no other details.  The date allows this couple to have been the parents of Isabella.  If so, she was Isabella EDWARDS before marriage.

Possible brothers of Isabella?:
Oswald ROBINSON, bap 27/1/1782, Kill St Nicholas Waterford to Richard and Margaret Robinson. [Oswald used down generations of this family.]
Oswald MONTGOMERY, death 1866 Cavan age 77, estimated birth 1789. 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 30 November 11 05:27 GMT (UK)
Who might this JULIA HALPIN have been?

1848 Dublin directory entry:  Halpin Julia 4 Newfoundland street, and Light House, North Wall. 

Parliamentary Papers, Public Works and Buildings ... year ending 31 March 1849:  For Pension to ..... Julia Halpin, superannuated Head Nurse of Richmond Surgical Hospital - 51yo - 11 years service - £15 p/a (p.139)

If she was 51 in 1848, she was born about 1797, too old to be  George and James's sister and also too old to be George's child.  And yet, she appears to have lived at that time partly in George's home at the North Wall Light and partly in one of his probable properties.

If she worked as a nurse, does that imply she would not have married?  Or perhaps as a widow, could she have returned to work she had done prior to marriage?  I am exploring the possibility that she may be a sister-in-law.

Or, could she have been a child of George's possible older brother, Richard?  We really have to sort out the Richard Halpins.

George's wife Elizabeth died in 1850 "after a long and painful illness" (Dublin Evening Mail).  Perhaps this Julia was nursing Elizabeth at home during this long illness.  But who was she?  Where does she fit into the family?  Is she a link to another family member?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tavern on Wednesday 30 November 11 21:42 GMT (UK)
THE BOURNE IDENTITY

This might be a good moment to point out that it is very useful to review from time to time what has already been posted. It is only now we have found out George was married twice and that his second wife's maiden name was Bowen or Bourne. Yet Shanachai (Ray) posted the following reply #52 Thursday 14th May 2009. 

"Also, I found this in my files, but it's accessible to everyone through the House of Commons website:
....In the 1900 edition of the same records we find George H. and Elizabeth Bourne - 1817 - M.L.....
.....Billw - we might have found the surname of George snr's wife Elizabeth
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I guess the year 1817 caused us all to ignore Ray's posting by assuming George was only married once.

Regards,
Tavern
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Post by: mkent on Thursday 01 December 11 08:52 GMT (UK)
Found it very interesting reading about Isabella Louisa, my Dad's sister was known as Louise but was christened Isabella Louisa, wonder is she was named after her.
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Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 13 December 11 19:15 GMT (UK)
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Post by: Lisa Duggan l3 on Saturday 21 January 12 22:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, I came across your rootschat message and was very interested in the information. I have recently discovered a connection to Thomas Matthew Halpin he was married to Kate Keely of Eustace Street Dublin and later married her sister MaryAnne some time later emigrating to America with three of Mary Annes siblings. They fled when Thomas Matthew Halpins reputation was destroyed. I am a descendant of Julia Keely who lived to be 100 years old and was the younger sister of the two wives of Thomas Matthew Halpin. You may also be interested to know that James Keely wrote to the Freemans Journal and his letter was printed defending the reputation of Thomas M. Halpin.  The Keelys were grandchildren of Marianne Guinness of James Street, Dublin. Thomas Halpin became successful in America and compiled directories of various types. There are descendants of his living in America today who have in their possession papers relating to the failed 1848 rebellion that were hidden in a table belonging to the family and have interesting stories to tell relating to same.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Sunday 22 January 12 00:26 GMT (UK)
Delighted to hear from you, Lisa, and thank you for the update on James and Thomas.  It's most welcome.  I'm currently finalising an update on your line of the Halpin family tree, which extends it back in time to the 1780s, and forward in time to Dublin 1922.  I hope to post those details here within the next few of weeks.  All the best for now, and thanks again.
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Post by: Greg Frauenhoff on Friday 10 February 12 02:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,

My name is Greg Frauenhoff and I am the Great Great Grandson (or so) of Thomas Matthew Halpin. 

Regarding the family table and papers, here is what I can add.  The table is in two parts:  one in the possession of my brother and the other with a distant relative whom I don't know.  The papers themselves were a roll of multi-color paper that had 10 or so poems written while in prison in 1849 by various individuals, including two apparently different Thomas Halpins.  My mother owned the roll but she has passed away and even after a thorough going through of her estate it could not be located.  I have held such in my hands but where they ended up is beyond me.  Perhaps, as she was rather disoriented during her final illness, they were accidentally misplaced.  She made copies of most if not all of the poems and these copies are probably in my garage along with her genealogical research.

Greg
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Post by: Greg Frauenhoff on Friday 10 February 12 02:48 GMT (UK)
BTW, I also have a photograph of T. M. Halpin. 

Among other things, while in the USA he successfully ran for office in the Illinois State Legislature.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 10 February 12 10:16 GMT (UK)
Thankyou kindly, Mr. Frauenhoff.  I hope to add to your family tale shortly.  I'm fairly sure I've managed to extend it back in time to the late 1700s.  Great to hear you have a photo - they're so rare.  Cheers for now - R.
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Post by: Lisa Duggan l3 on Friday 10 February 12 21:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for this information, regarding Thomas Halpin,. I am delighted to hear that there is a photo of Thomas Halpin available. I have searched in all the books and literature and found pictures of everybody involved in the 1848 rebellion except him.  Hope we can get the image up soon. Kind regards Lisa Duggan l3.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Greg Frauenhoff on Saturday 11 February 12 16:04 GMT (UK)
Here is a photo of Thomas Matthew Halpin, the revolutionary.  My guess is that it dates to about 1870.
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Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 11 February 12 16:24 GMT (UK)
Wonderful, Mr. Frauenhoff.  What a handsome man your forebear was.  An invaluable contribution to the Halpin thread.  Thanks again.
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Post by: Lisa Duggan l3 on Sunday 12 February 12 12:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful photo of my great great uncle. Very happy to see the man that managed to charm and marry both of my great great aunts. Kate and Mary Anne Keely. Lisa Duggan gg grandaughter of Julia Keely.
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Post by: tompion on Friday 24 February 12 16:09 GMT (UK)
Any of you direct descendents of William Henry Halpin, the editor of the Cheltenham Mail in the 1820’s, and son of William Henry Halpin and Marianne Crosthwaite?

If so, you might want to buy a first edition (presumably the only edition) of his book, publshed in 1820 (£50) - I suspect it is scarce - available at www.abebooks.co.uk:    

The Cheltenham mail bag; or, letters from Gloucestershire
Halpin, William Henry
Bookseller: Ximenes Rare Books Inc., ABAA, ABA, ILAB (Kempsford, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom)
Bookseller Rating: 5-star rating
Quantity Available: 1

Book Description: London, 1820. [Halpin, William Henry.] The Cheltenham mail bag; or, letters from Gloucestershire. Edited by Peter Quince, the younger [pseud]. London: John Warren, 1820. viii, 137 pp. Sm. 8vo, contemporary cloth. First edition. Humorous verse about life in a spa town, in the manner of Thomas Moore, whose poems about the Fudge family are acknowledged in the preface. A very good copy. Jackson, p. 452; CBEL IV (3), 346. Bookseller Inventory # CL330

Yous Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 February 12 00:44 GMT (UK)
No.5476
GREHAM Family Vault

No.5477
Front of headstone of number 5476:   Sacred | To the Memory | of | The Revd. JOHN GREHAM LL.D. | formerly Head Master of the | Waterford Endowed and Enniskillen | Royal Schools | who died at No 7 Marine Terrace | Kingstown | the 21st of February 1873 | aged 79 years | Benevolent charitable and generous | an accomplished and precise scholar | a zealous and skilful teacher | His aim was ever while building on | Christ as the chief cornerstone | to expand the intellect of youth | and fortify the character| with those principles of knowledge | with which | his own gifted and pious mind | was so richly stored |"Take fast hold of instruction | let her not go, keep her, for | she is thy life" Proverbs IV. 12

No.5478
Left side of number 5476:  and also | In Memory of | NICHOLAS | JOHN HALPIN | who died on the | 25th day of November 1891 | aged 73 years | and of | REBECCA | HALPIN | his wife | who died on the | 30th day of | January 1903 | aged 72 years

The marvellous work of Yvonne Russell to photograph and record Irish headstones is acknowledged, and its repository, the Irish Genealogical Project.  This excerpt can be found at http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/mt-jerome37.txt along with a link to the photograph of the inscriptions at Mt Jerome Cemetery, Dublin.

I assume this Rev John Greham was Ann Greham’s brother and thus the Rev NJ Halpin’s brother-in-law.  Who were their parents?
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Post by: BillW on Wednesday 29 February 12 05:47 GMT (UK)
No.256
Sacred | to the Memory of | EMILY GRIFFITHS | who died November 2 1901 | "Thy Will be Done" | In Loving Memory of | STOPFORD R. A. HALPIN | died Jan 29 1908 | "Thy Will be Done" | also his mother GERALDINE | dearly loved wife of STOPFORD J. HALPIN | died Vancouver B.C. March 1st 1922
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(Inscribed on side of Headstone) Also her son | LEWIS GRIFFITHS | died 14th Jan. 1923 | aged 70 | "Till He come" | STOPFORD J. HALPIN | died Jan. 22 1944 | Vancouver B.C.

With the same acknowledgements as for my last, the link to the above at http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/deansgrange-s02.txt.  The photos here were taken by Joyce Tunstead, who is also familiar with Wicklow Church’s graveyard.

Forgive me if I have posted this before.  Stopford Richard Arthur Halpin above was buried at Deansgrange Cemetery (near Kingstown) aged about 13.  He was a grandson of Dr Stopford Halpin of Arklow and son of Stopford John Halpin and Geraldine Bond, both named here and both of whom died in Vancouver BC.

Did Stopford and Geraldine have any more children besides Louise Frances, whom I have recorded as unmarried and dying in Vancouver in 1977?  Was Geraldine related to the Swinton Henry Bond, son of Joseph Bond, who in 1882, of 57 York Road Kingstown, married Mary Anne Halpin, daughter of Sarah Gregg and Richard Mathews Halpin, brother of Dr Stopford Halpin of Arklow?

But who were Emily Griffiths and her son Lewis?  From the photo, there are actually two separate inscriptions, the Griffiths one on a stone above the Halpin stone.  And it does not show if the side inscriptions are also separated this way.

I think the connection may be with the Bond Family.  In the 1901 Census, at Upper Glenageary Road Kingstown, were Lewis E Griffiths 48 and family showing his mother Emily to be a widow aged 79 (b.c. 1822), Lewis born in England, Georgina 37 his wife, lady born Co Westmeath, and a visitor is Elizabeth Bond, widow 59 born Co Cavan (c. 1842).  Could this Elizabeth’s late husband have been Joseph Bond?  And was she the mother of Geraldine, Georgina and Swinton?  Georgina most likely was Lewis Griffiths’ second wife as his eldest son was only 13 years her junior.
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Post by: BillW on Tuesday 13 March 12 23:43 GMT (UK)
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., tide surveyor~Dublin Almanac~1834
HALPIN~Richard~Howth~Dublin Almanac~1836
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., tide surveyor~Dublin Almanac~1837
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., tide surveyor and harbour master~Dublin Almanac~1843
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., harbour master~Thom's Irish Almanac & Official Directory~1849
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., harbour master~Thom's Irish Almanac & Official Directory~1851
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., harbour master~Thom's Irish Almanac & Official Directory~1852
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., harbour master~Thom's Irish Almanac & Official Directory~1853
HALPIN~Richard~Howth, Esq., harbour master~Thom's Irish Almanac & Official Directory~1855
[http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~chrisu/howth/howth_dir2.htm]

Griffiths Valuation.  Parish of Howth.  1850
Primary Valuation of Tenements
No. On Map.  1 - Tenements   
No. 186      Harbour Commis.   24 Perches
No.189      Howth Harb Com.   12 Perches
No.203/4      Ballast Board         Value £12/17
No.206      Richard Halpin         Value £8
No.213      Board of Works   1 rood 23 p
No.214      Rev. John Gregg    29 perches   Value £17/15
End of tenements
No. On Map. 26b(or c)
Richard Halpin   30 Perches, no building      Value 11/-      Halfway to Lighthouse
(These are only Griffiths Valuation listings of a Richard Halpin anywhere)
(A Rev John Gregg became COI Bishop of Cork in 1862.  Sarah Gregg, daughter of Edward Henry Gregg, merchant of Bridge Street Wicklow, married Richard Mathews Halpin 1852.)

April 30, Richard Halpin, of Howth, co. Dublin, late surveyor in her majesty's customs.
[Cork Examiner  May 9 1855, p.2.  Deaths]
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Post by: BillW on Tuesday 13 March 12 23:56 GMT (UK)
Dec. 31, 1862
  On the 26th inst., at 39, Leinster-square, Bayswater, W., Capt. Wm.
Halpin, late 1st Heavy Dragoons, King's German Legion.

April 28, 1865
  On the 25th inst., at 54, Belsize-park, London, Major-General Wm. Halpin, of H.M. Madras Army, aged 60

Jan. 31, 1862
  On the 23rd inst., at her residence, Summer-hill, Dublin, Mary Anne, eldest daughter of the late Robert Crosthwaite, Esq., of Carlow.
(I think that these Crosthwaites were large scale millers in Bagenalstown, Co Carlow.)
[All extracts from the Cork Examiner]

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Post by: BillW on Thursday 22 March 12 03:40 GMT (UK)
A long time ago, I think either Brian or Diane supplied that Alfred Walter Charles Halpin, 4th child of NJ Halpin and Rebecca Doherty, had died without issue in Australia.  I don't know if they have since found anything further.  However, looking for something else, I noticed his 1855 Dublin baptism and, following the trail, found his death in the NSW indexes.  He died in 1907 in the Burwood distict of Sydney.  Grant of application for probate was reported 2/3/1907.  Being not far from my Halpins, I am intrigued if they were ever in touch.
Bill. 
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Post by: BillW on Monday 26 March 12 04:28 BST (UK)
Married.  On the 3d instant, at Portarlington, mr. Hill, to miss Halpin, of said place [Finns Leinster Journal Wed Sept 9, 1789, p2] [Courtesy www.irishnewsarchive.com]

Comparing the date of this 1789 marriage, William Henry Halpin was born c.1760 and married 1787 to Marianne Crosthwaite.  From the Burke’s entry, we are told that WHH had one sister, Susanna, who seems to have not married because she had a will in her own name that was proved after her death 1834, executor William H Halpin of North Cumberland St.  [4/237/34]

I may have posted here before that Portarlington local historian, Ronnie Mathews, writes of a connection between the Nicholas Halpins and a locally prominent Hill family.  (He writes of Old Nick being connected with student entries to TCD from 1789 and including “James Hill son of Portarlington’s Major Thomas Hill and brother of architect Thomas Hill in 1801”.  (I don’t know how much credence to give this since the architect Thomas Hill and family seem to be from Cork.)

Mathews goes on to report that: “One of the Hills was also married to Mary Anne daughter of the above Nicholas Halpin, and they had three children, whose names were Nicholas Thomas (Hill), William Halpin (Hill) and Mary Anne Hill.”  (Again, I have been unable to find any such evidence – perhaps it comes from estate books to which Mathews has access.  He elsewhere mixes up the Halpin generations.)

So, did Old Nick and Anne du Bois have at least one other daughter, Mary Anne Halpin, who is not in the Burke’s record, and if so, Nicholas Thomas Hill, William Halpin Hill and Mary Anne Hill all would have been first cousins of Rev Nicholas John Halpin, William Henry Halpin the newspaperman, Dr Charles Halpin and of Frederick James Halpin, schoolmaster of Kingstown.

I put this on the record but view it sceptically without more firm evidence.  It would be good to be able to go over Ronnie Mathews sources with him.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 03 May 12 06:37 BST (UK)
Ray, sorry to advise a small point.  The Robert Halpin who may have been a tide surveyor and thought to have been a possible father of Robert Wellington Halpin and who was reported (by me) as dying in 1855 having been on a handsome pension of £250 pa - this turns out to have been Richard Halpin of Howth, not Robert.  From the Cork Examiner.   May 9, 1855, page 2.  April 30, Richard Halpin, of Howth, co. Dublin, late surveyor in her majesty's customs.
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Post by: joytun on Saturday 26 May 12 09:16 BST (UK)
I am not involved in the research of the Halpin Family, but I take photos of Headstones and contribute to IGP Archives.  I was recently asked to take a clearer picture of the inscription on the Memorial at Wicklow, and when I called there yesterday I found that it has been restored.  Looking really nice now.   
I have also found further Halpin inscriptions within the family burial enclosure.
I am also wondering if there was a William Halpin who died 1762 aged 55.
If anyone would like copies of my photos (yet to be edited) please get in touch.  They will, of course, be on IGP Archives in due course.
Joyce
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Post by: BillW on Saturday 26 May 12 23:59 BST (UK)
Everyone, Joyce and her comrade Yvonne Russell, have been doing unstinting and invaluable work, which has to be a labour of love, photographing and annotating headstones, principally around Counties Dublin and Wicklow, for now I think.  Their work is recorded at the free IGP website.  Their Co Wicklow work can be visited at http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm and search from there for the transcriptions.
Joyce, if you turn back at this current thread to pp 19-20, you can see that Tavern turned up the parish register entry for William Halpin (Hapny) who died in 1762 and how we have discussed his potential connections with the family.
Is there anyone reading who might assist Joyce to gain access within the Halpin enclosure to enable more accurate photography, now that it is as pristine as it is likely to get?  Please contact Joyce or me directly so it can be done this summer.  Apparently stones have been righted that were unable to be viewed previously.
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Post by: powerwicklow on Sunday 27 May 12 12:46 BST (UK)
Hi Joyce and Bill.

Firstly Joyce I am sorry I missed you on your last visit to the graveyard on Church Hill. I am never too far away. I would have met you there on a couple of previous occasions when you were down photographing and I think I would have found some old maps at the time that were relevant.

About two years ago the local historical society brought ancestors of the Captain to visit at the graveyard and the memorial was in a poor state at the time. It was very hard to read the transcriptions and for a monument that gets so many visitors it needed a face lift. I was privelaged to get the task of cleaning the monument which was a slow and time consuming job. Toothbrushes, nailbrushes and toothpicks were the tools of the day. The job is complete apart from some lead lettering that is missing. These will be replaced I am sure if finances permit.

The railed area to the south of the Halpin Monument which contains the three Halpin headstones that are lying flat was cleaned up previously and the railings have been repainted and the same headstones are easily accessable. It was in cleaning up this area we became aware of the Hapny headstone which had lay undetected for years. In between the railed area and the Captain Halpin monument is the Kennedy grave where Captain Halpins sister is buried. This headstone is also qiute dirty but can be read, but if it was to be cleaned it would look quite out of place in such an old graveyard.

As one enters the graveyard , on the Left hand side of the path is the Brownrigg Vault. There was a small amount of vandalism to the vault a few years back which was repaired and at the same time the monument that sits above the vault was cleaned and restored. Did Brownrigg marry or bury the Captain ?

Because of their proximity to the edge of the graveyard where ground has subsided before there are two headstones that had fallen face down and have now been lifted and can be read. This would not normally be the case as the graveyard is left to progress naturally unless there ia a danger. The names on these headstones are Sprent and Byrne.

As regards photographing in the graveyard I can organise any help that is needed if either one of you make contact with me.

John.



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Post by: joytun on Sunday 27 May 12 15:38 BST (UK)
Hi Bill and John

Thanks for your messages.  First of all I must congratulate you John on the wonderful work you have done on the Halpin Memorials.    I was out on Friday with my daughter taking photos in the gardens at Hunters Hotel.  We had some time to spare before having lunch, so we went to the churchyard at Wicklow in order to take a closeup of the inscription on the headstone you have restored.  This was a request from a contact living in Canada.   Of course, we didn't know of your work - so a lovely surprise.  When there I took a quick look at the enclosure and again found that another inscription could be read, and one that will take time to read.  I also found the Hapny headstone.   We were only there for a very short time, so didn't look you up.   However, I would love to go down again some morning, so will arrange to do so when you will be around.

And Bill, thanks for pointing me to the chat about Wlm. Hapny.   It occurred to me that it might well have been an earlier form of the Halpin surname.

Joyce

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 28 May 12 01:48 BST (UK)
Joyce, way back in 2009, at thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270348.msg2491878.html#msg2491878
on P2 of the original thread of this long discussion, Ray Halpin put on record the obituary of his ancestor Robert Wellington Halpin where is written: The funeral took place yesterday, in the family grave in Wicklow churchyard, and was attended by almost all the townspeople, and by many from the outlying districts.
He died on 2nd October 1883.  His wife, Frances Mabella Halpin had died February the same year.
We know many graves just disappear and this may be one of them but just bringing this to yours and John's particular attention.
I feel that this would have been a headstone of some quality.  Until less than a century ago, their grandson and his family were living nearby in Rathdrum where both he and his wife were national schoolteachers.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 29 May 12 07:08 BST (UK)
Going back to our beginnings as per the previous post.
Ray quotes some records quoted in Parliamentary Papers of which two now stand out, not to mention finding George's marriage to Elizabeth Bourne.
Halpin, William Henry and Anne Crosthwaite - 1787 - Nature of record, M.L. (Marriage Licence).  So, contrary to the handwritten Burke's submission and possibly re-emphasising its fallibility, was Miss Crosthwaite's name Anne, rather than Marianne, the name given to their daughter.  And secondly....
Halpin, John, gentleman - 1737 - Nature of record, I (?).  Ray's query mark means, what does "I" stand for?  Intestate, possibly.
So, who was John Halpin, gentleman, dying about 1737?  Possibly a retired naval gentleman?   Remember that the Wicklow Halpins' father seems to have been John Halfpenny.  I wonder if the document to which this refers survives.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 29 May 12 07:15 BST (UK)
On another tack, pun intended, there is this part of a quotation regarding the death at sea of Henry G Halpin, son of Richard Mathews Halpin -
 It may be mentioned that this is the first death by drowning which has occurred in the Halpin family, although, some years ago, four brothers of that family were at sea at the same time and, of course, exposed to the constant dangers of a sea-faring life. - The Wicklow Newsletter, March 25th 1883.
If this is to be taken literally, I previously had 3 captains among the brothers – Thomas, Richard and Robert Charles.  Do we include the brother John Augustus Halpin 1832-64 who is recorded as dying in Bermuda?  Nothing else is known about him.  Or, does the story stretch to include their cousin, George’s son Frederick?  It could not include Dr George Halbert Halpin’s son, Robert George Halpin who, although a ship’s captain dying in Falmouth, his death occurred 23 years after this article.
Including these last two, the family not only produced, by my count, 13 doctors but also 6 sea captains.  And were there the one or two naval ancestors, or are they mythical?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Tuesday 29 May 12 08:53 BST (UK)
Marie has said previously that a Bayley family from Moneygrath, Co Carlow, are related to the Wicklow Halpins.  Maeve produced a Memorial Card associated with the Halpin family that reads
Anne Bayley, who died at Moneygrath, Myshall, Co Carlow. December 11, 1883. ..prayer
The only Bayley death registered for that period in 1883 is Anne Bayley, death registered at Enniscorthy Wexford, birth, calculated from age at death, 1814.  Enniscorthy must have been the nearest registry. 
Who was Anne?  1814 puts her just older than James Halpin’s eldest, Eliza born 1816.
In the 1901 and 1911 Censuses, the Bayley/Bailey family is at Moneygrough (Cranemore, Carlow), head Samuel (52 in 1901), wife Rosanna and 8 children, Margaret 23, Rebecca, Abraham, William, Samuel, John, Phoebe and Benjamin 4, COI, R&W.
Samuel Bayley seems to have married in 1877 at Shillelagh.  His census age gives a birth about 1849 and a Samuel Griffith Bayley is registered dying in Carlow in 1926 with an indicated year of birth 1849.  This still does not get us back to 1814 but it is closer.  I wonder if Samuel’s death or marriage certificates might show his parents to try to see how this family is connected with the Halpins.  I suppose the above Anne Bayley could have been Samuel’s mother.  Is Samuel's middle name, Griffith, a clue?
Footnote.  Eliza Halpin’s death seems to be registered in Jan-March 1881, age 65, est birth 1816.  Her name is given there as Eliza Louisa.  It could have been about that time, when George was constructing the Wicklow lighthouses, that his daughter Louisa came to James and Ann Halpin, married about a year.  They later named their 12th child Louisa in 1834, the year we believe George’s (Isabella?) Louisa to have died.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: joytun on Wednesday 30 May 12 11:59 BST (UK)
Bill,
Yesterday morning I went to visit Wicklow Churchyard again, and met up with John who was a great help.   Again I have to say he is doing wonderful work down there.

I have taken further closeup photos of the centre stone in the Halpin enclosure, but it is going to be very difficult to read the inscription.  Sadly it has deteriorated since Brian Cantwell's time.  However, at your request, Bill, we took a very close look at the year of death for Louisa Halpin, daughter of George Halpin, and it certainly appears that Cantwell's date of 1831 is correct. 

As I have only recently become involved in this discussion on the Halpin family, please forgive me if I ask the obvious - Has someone checked the burial register in order to confirm the year of the burial/details of the name of the person buried?

Joyce
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Wednesday 30 May 12 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi to all,

Its been a long time, but still reading. Came upon the following, and though it might be interesting.
If it has already been posted, sorry.

John, Marie Louise is in Wicklow at present. If you wish to contact her please phone me

Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Wednesday 30 May 12 16:54 BST (UK)
Hit post too fast

Newspaper:
WICKLOW - Irish Times May 3, 1859
HALPIN v HALPIN. Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/copyright.htm . http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/wicklow/  Contributed by Mary Heaphy

3-5-1859 Irish Times. (For County Wicklow). Court of Probate--April 30th. Before the Right Hon. Judge Keatinge.

Halpin V. Halpin.
In this case there was an examination of witnesses to prove the due execution of a will made by the late Mr. Frederick Halpin, hotel keeper, of the town of Wicklow,
leaving his property in equal shares to his two nieces.
The will was impeached by the next of kin on the grounds that it was not executed according to the statute.

Mr. Clarke, Q.C. and Mr. Murphy appeared to sustain the will, and Dr. Ball. Q.C. for the next of kin.
The attesting witnesses being sworn and examined, his Lordship established the will and granted probate.
Solicitors for the Plaintiff--Mr. Littledale. For the Defendant---Messrs Hone and Kinahan.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Tuesday 19 June 12 12:26 BST (UK)
Bill,
only came upon the following like to NLI with wonderful old photos of Co Wicklow & Wicklow Town.
There are lots of old photos of Wicklow when you search the National Library's online catalogue...

http://catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=wicklow&type=AllFields&filter%5B0%5D=format%3A%22Photo%22&filter%5B1%5D=digitised%3A%22Digitised%22&page=1&view=list

Hope you enjoy the site.
Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Thursday 21 June 12 09:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Maeve, I have just been to the site and thought the photos great, I had forgotton the grand ever looked like that!    Marie
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 19 November 12 05:15 GMT (UK)
Apparently there is a privately initiated project that seems to be supported by the RCB Library to publish Church of Ireland parish records.
And the first parish to be so published is Delgany in Co Wicklow.  The whole effort may be inspected at http://ireland.anglican.org/about/152.
Of names covered by us in the Halpins of Wicklow threads, here are some entries that may have some relevance (bearing in mind that I could easily have missed others).

Bayly   Henry      bu. 08 Aug 1781
Cotter   - (Mrs)      bu. 26 Mar 1733 (Abode Calary)
Cotter   Ann              ba. 06 Mar 1748 (John/Ann)      
Cotter   Esther      ba. 18 Apr 1742  (John/Anne)
Cotter   Mary              bu. 28 Jan 1748
Eaton   Anne      bu. 02 Jun 1772
Eaton   Maria      bu. 31 Aug 1858 (3)
Gilbert                 many entries
Gore   Arthur (Esq)           bu. 11 Dec 1777
Gore   Mary (Mrs)           bu. 01 Dec 1775 (Abode Wingfield)
Gore   Richard (Esq)           bu. 29 Apr 1765
Gore   Richard              bu. 19 Jul 1824 (50)
Halfpenny                      3 infant burials Anne, Edmond, John 1660s (Father Patrick)
Halfpenny   William           ba. 22 Sep 1782 (William/Jane)
Halfpenny   Eliz’th           bu. 08 Dec 1816 (75)
Halfpenny   J (Mr)           bu. 23 Sep 1819 (85)
Hoar/Hoare/Hore           26 entries in 1700s
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Thursday 06 December 12 18:58 GMT (UK)
Hi to all the Halpins and Marie Louise,

Sorry have not been taking any interest in the site for some time now. We have had a bereavement in the family and I have been hospitalized but am now on the road to recovery T.G. It is hard to kill a bad thing. Taking myself up and getting stuck in again. Hope you like the site below.

Our representatives on the Council for Wicklow want to alter and move our Halpin Monument, and the town's people are 'up in arms' over this proposal. There was a march from the monument to the Market Square, where the Councillors were holding their monthly meeting and a partition was handed in. It was a great turnout. View it and the discussion on wicklowpast

Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 07 December 12 01:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the link, Julia.  Glad to see you're up and about again, and I'm sure you have everyone's best wishes.  You certainly have mine.  From what you've said about the public reaction to the possible relocation of the Halpin monument, it looks like the people of Wicklow have lost none of their legendary fighting spirit.  Nor have they forgotten one of Wicklow's most celebrated sons.  More power to them, I say.  And all the best to you too.  - R.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Sunday 09 December 12 09:51 GMT (UK)
thanks Maeve, nice to hear from you again.  Why Wicklow Town Council want to destroy the character and history of Wicklow is a mystery!  Best wishes to everyone for Christmas .
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Sunday 30 December 12 17:21 GMT (UK)
Posted by Ian Ridley 29th December 2012
Ian Ridley added photos to Masters & Mates Certificates. Richard Matthew Halpin 1854 and Robert Charles 1850.

Maeve Flannery.  : "Great Ian, do you mind if I past this information on to the Halpin family on rootschat." 
Ian Ridley "No problem Maeve, I got them yesterday ......"
Maeve Flannery "Thanks Ian.  Happy new year to you and your family."
 Julia
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 31 December 12 01:02 GMT (UK)
Digging around in my records, I cannot find that I ever recorded the following here. I have noted that it comes courtesy of records at the NAI.

William Henry Halpin, Solicitor, age 64, Port of Departure, Buenos Aires, Argentina arrived Southampton 2 May 1928 aboard the 'Asturias'.  Final address:  Ford Lodge, Cavan Co; Cavan, Ireland.  Country of last permanent residence: Irish Free State. Country of intended permanent residence: Irish Free State.
William Richard Halpin, Scholar, age 15, Port of Departure, Buenos Aires, Argentina arrived Southampton 2 May 1928 aboard the 'Asturias'.  Final address:  Fort Lodge, Cavan Co; Cavan, Ireland.  Country of last permanent residence: Irish Free State. Country of intended permanent residence: Irish Free State.

Full name of the son was William Richard Crozier Halpin.  This WH Halpin was the 6th child of NJ Halpin and Rebecca Doherty.  His wife Caroline Hutton lived till 1966.  Their other child was solicitor John Ralph Halpin, by now (1928) about 29 years old.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Thursday 24 January 13 10:07 GMT (UK)
I have been encouraged by BillW to come out of my nest!

To reply to his last post of 31 December 2012 about travels of William Henry  Halpin: I have looked more closely at the passenger lists  and found that William Henry Halpin (63) and his son William Richard Halpin (15) were not actually travelling from Buenos Aires although the ship did start its voyage from there.

Mr W H Halpin b 1863, solicitor of Ford Lodge, Cavan, and his son William Richard Halpin (15) departed from Southampton on 30th March 1928 to Madeira, on the Union Castle Line ship SS Arundel Castle, final destination of the ship South Africa; They returned from Madeira to Southampton on 2nd May 1928 on board the SS Asturias (Royal Mail Steam Packet Co) via Lisbon and Vigo; the SS Asturias had set off from Buenos Aires on a regular Royal Mail Line voyage to and from South America, via France, Spain, Portugal and Madeira. It is possibly relevant that Easter Sunday in 1928 was on April 8th so I would imagine William senior was simply taking his son on holiday during the school holidays.

This is supported by finding William Henry Halpin (66) and William Richard Halpin (16) again, going to Marseilles on 5 April 1929 (on the P&O SS Mooltan to Sydney), again roughly coincident with Easter in 1929 on March 31st. William Henry Halpin also went to Marseilles on 11 February 1927 (unaccompanied) on the P&O SS Mooltan.

As I am sure has been reported before, William Henry Halpin died at Ford Lodge, Cavan on 17 April 1937, probate to his wife Caroline Isabella Emma Halpin (nee Hutton) and his son John Ralph Halpin, solicitor (left about £12,013). William Richard (Crosier) Halpin was born on 28 June 1912 in Dublin, was an accountant (Major RASC WW2, seconded to The Treasury 1942-44; company director post WW2), married Hilary Alicia Keighley-Bell, daughter of Lt-Col Henry Keighley-Bell of Hurlingham Court, Putney, in 1939 and had three children; died 1999 in Camden, London. His wife died in 2000.

Hope this solves the apparent connection with Buenos Aires - I think they were just on holiday in Madeira.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Jtyner on Thursday 24 January 13 21:36 GMT (UK)
hi bill, Julia and anyone else in this conversation! for those of you who dont know i am related to william henry halpin's wife caroline isabella emma hutton. so hence i am also related to their children. it is very interesting to see the information you have gathered on them! is there a connection with the cavan halpins and the wicklow halpins?
John
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Thursday 24 January 13 22:34 GMT (UK)
i am related to william henry halpin's wife caroline isabella emma hutton. so hence i am also related to their children. it is very interesting to see the information you have gathered on them! is there a connection with the cavan halpins and the wicklow halpins?
Welcome John.  It may serve to remind everyone that this is a form of the very question Ray first asked back in March 2009 at the outset of our searches - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270348.msg2421989.html#msg2421989 - approximately 850 posts ago in our combined series of three threads.  Despite many indications and interactions, the question remains unanswered - more work to do.
We have all done tremendous work, tested and amended or rejected many theories, and made huge progress, enjoying each other's correspondence along the way.
John, with your credentials, if you could establish contact with Caroline's currents descendants, that might prove mutually instructive.
Bill
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: mkent on Friday 25 January 13 10:23 GMT (UK)
 Hi John, I didn;t know you were into roootchat, as you are related to Bill and I am also related to him that must mean we are connected, amazing to discover that after all these years!  Marie
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Jtyner on Friday 25 January 13 18:05 GMT (UK)
hi marie, im not sure if i am related to bill but we have been corresponding about the cavan halpins since they married into mum's hutton family. if william henry halpin is related to you or bill, then there may be something but my only connection to the halpins is from caroline hutton's marriage to william henry halpin onwards. i do have webster cousins but that is another conversation!!
John
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 29 January 13 22:43 GMT (UK)
The attachment below is a copy of a document currently held in the National Library of Ireland (GO MS 800 (5) "Halpin Pedigree...").  It formed the basis of the Halpin family tree which subsequently appeared in Burke's.  It may be of interest to the extended Halpin clan.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 29 January 13 22:48 GMT (UK)
Sorry guys - the file I'm trying to upload is apparently too big.  Can't say I understand that, but there you are. 
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 29 January 13 22:53 GMT (UK)
If anyone wants a copy of the original Halpin pedigree, send me a personal message and I'll email it to you.  Having no luck trying to upload this thing.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Thursday 31 January 13 15:26 GMT (UK)
Re: Rev. Robert Crawford Halpin, Chaplain to the Forces, son of Paymaster [Captain] William Halpin, KGL

I have returned to Robert Crawford Halpin and his family.

In the National Archives I have found in 'Reports of Officers Marriages' [WO 25 / 3240] a handwritten return (copy available) from him with details of his marriage to Eleanor Wallace on 13 November 1847 in the Parish Church of Swords, Co Dublin; married by the Rev. John Hare, witnesses Thomas Hunt and John Dobbs. Eleanor Wallace was '22' years old at marriage and Robert was '29'. These returns were required under the Widows Pension Regulations of 1830 (bureaucracy even then!) to ensure widows of officers would receive pensions due when their husbands died.

Robert Crawford Halpin died on 19 March 1889 at 22 Belsize Square and left £2,291 5s 10d, probate to his son Arthur Frederick Halpin and his son-in-law Robert Halket Halkett. I have now also found his burial at Hampstead Cemetery, buried on 25th March 1889 - Surprisingly, in the same grave are buried four members of the Savory family (buried 1890, 1895, 1903 and 1903) who are as far as I can determine completely unrelated (Thomas Savory was a baker, originally from Norfolk). When the weather improves I will go there to locate the grave and also to view 22 Belsize Square (and 54 Belsize Park where Robert's brother Colonel George Halpin [of the Madras Army] lived) - from Google maps both rather substantial and elegant houses even today.

Robert's wife Eleanor died on 11 November 1903 [left £404 1s 4d., probate to her widowed daughter Eleanor Sophie Halkett] but there is no record of her being buried at Hampstead Cemetery. I will keep looking for her burial.

Eleanor Sophie Halkett died on 9 June 1921 [left £786 13s 7d, probate to her unmarried daughter Moira Katherine Esmonde Halkett] and is also buried at Hampstead Cemetery 14th June 1921. In the same grave is her infant son Esmonde Robert Crawford Halkett who was born on 31st July 1883 and was buried on 13th September 1884.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Thursday 31 January 13 17:10 GMT (UK)
Re:  Children and descendents of the Rev. Robert Crawford Halpin

George William Halpin, civil engineer

George William Halpin was the eldest son of the Rev. Robert Crawford Halpin, born in 1850 in Ireland [baptised 5 August 1850] and married to Kate Wemyss in Edinburgh on 6 December 1876. He was reported as dying in Buenos Aires on 5th July 1922 aged 73 (The Times, 5th August 1922). Since there was no trace of him or Kate after the 1881 census it was assumed that they had gone to Argentina shortly after that date.

I have recently found that George William Halpin of 22 Belsize Square London (his father's home) was made an Ensign in the 2nd London Rifle Volunteer Corps (London Gazette 4 July 1871). He was admitted as a Freemason of the Celtic Lodge of Edinburgh and Leith on 4th February 1876 [proposed by Thomas B(rown) Wemyss, Kate Wemyss' brother].

BillW and I have also found reference to a design (no 63) George submitted for the Great Tower for London (intended as a rival to the Eiffel Tower, to be built at Wembley Park in London), published in 1890 and to a design for a model stationary steam engine (in the Model Engineer) in 1901. These suggest he was in London at least periodically since he used the address 22 Belsize Square, although there are no census returns for him or Kate.

I have also found, in 'Immigration Records of Argentina' [www.immigration-records.com.ar] derived from the Centro de Estudios Migratorios Latinoamericanos (CEMLA) [http://www.cemla.com]:

HALPIN -
Apellido y Nombre Edad Estado Civil Profesión Religión Nacionalidad  Barco Procedencia Datos de arribo  Fecha de arribo / Puerto  Nacido en
                                                                 
HALPIN, GEORGE W. 57  C  INGENIERO  CATOLICA  INGLESA  AVON VIGO  02/09/1910 -
BUENOS AIRES DESCONOCIDO

HALPIN, KATE          56  C  DOMESTICA CATOLICA  INGLESA  ASTURIAS VIGO  02/07/1911 -
BUENOS AIRES DESCONOCIDO

which show that George W Halpin, aged 57, married (casado), engineer, Catholic, English, travelled on the (SS) Avon from Vigo (in Spain) arriving in Buenos Aires on 2nd September 1910, followed by Kate Halpin,aged 56, married, housewife, Catholic, English, travelled on the (SS) Asturias from Vigo, arriving in Buenos Aires on 2nd July 1911.
This suggests that their arrival in Argentina was much later than I had thought before and that perhaps they were moving there in retirement. Slightly anomalous are "Catholic" (they married in an Anglican Church in Edinburgh) and "English" [desconocido means unknown and refers to their place of birth]. As I reported in a previous post, the SS Asturias and the SS Avon were ships of the Royal Mail Steam Packet Co. undertaking regular voyages from Southampton to Buenos Aires via Cherbourg, Vigo, Lisbon, Rio and other South American ports between 1907 and WW1.

Where George and Kate were living between 1881 and 1910 remains to be discovered. The report in The Times of George Halpin's death appealed for relatives suggesting Kate was already dead by 1922 and that they had no children.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 31 January 13 18:24 GMT (UK)
not certain how much of this detail has already been noted in these threads ... some details on R.C. Halpin from 'Clergy of Dublin & Glendalough' (Diocese)

  Robert Crawford Halpin (1816 - ),   s. of William
  born Antwerp, educated by Mr. Huddart
  TCD B.A., 1843, A.M. 1868
  ordained deacon 1844, ordained priest 1845
  Curate St. Georges 1846,
  Chaplain St. Augustine's (Fem. Penitentiary, Dublin), 1847-1849
  Chaplain to the Duke of Cambridgeshire and Chaplain to the forces 1849
  served in the Crimea - awarded medal & clasp, and China
  retired 1882
  married Eleanor Wallace, daughter of Robert, Belvedere Place, Mountjoy on 13 Nov. 1847
 

S.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Friday 01 February 13 12:06 GMT (UK)
Dear John, 

Very interested in your connection with Caroline Hutton.  My great-grandmother, Mary Anne Isabella Halpin, was an older sister of Caroline's husband, William Henry Halpin of Cavan. 

Mary Anne Isabella married William David Bradley, from a long line of Dublin solicitors, but both he and Mary Halpin (Bradley) died in the same year (1897) leaving my grandmother and my great uncles and aunts orphaned. The children were split up with some brought up by a Bradley aunt and the others (including my granmother, Alice Maud Bradley) by the Halpins (almost certainly by William and Caroline Halpin. Till the day she died my grandmother had a postcard of a view of Cavan on her bedside table!

Caroline Hutton Halpin was the godmother of one of my cousins.  'Aunt Carrie' also sent flowers at the funeral of one of my great uncles, as did your relative Hilary Halpin, the wife of William Richard Crozier Halpin. These flowers were from Derek and Hilary Halpin - do you know who Derek Halpin was?

All best, Brian
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Friday 08 February 13 17:32 GMT (UK)
Re: Paymaster William Halpin - 1

While trawling through the the National Archives looking for Halpins and variants I found the returns of "Services of Officers on Full and Half Pay" of 1828 amongst which is that of William Halpin, the Paymaster in the King's German Legion and father of the Rev. Robert Crawford Halpin [Reference WO 25/762 on pp 305 - 308].

This provides the following information:

"William Halpin, age at first appointment 27 years; service from 24th October 1806 to 28th June 1816, 1st Dragoons, Kings German Legion, Paymaster, without purchase, on Half Pay by reduction; has made application for a district Paymastership.
Full pay 9yr 8/12 Half pay 13yr Total 22yr 8/12
Married 8th September 1798 Wicklow. Children:  Richard b 8 Jan 1800,  William b 31 July 1801,  John b 28 June 1803,  Anna b 24 October 1805,  George b 13 October 1807,  Sophia b 26 April 1810,  Aolphus (sic) [Adolphus] b 19 February 1812,  Robert b 11 August 1815.
Living last 5 years: Neighbourhood of Dublin.

Signed Wm Halpin, Paymaster 1st Drg K.G.L. Dublin 3 December 1828"


This gives his date of marriage and dates of birth of all William's children and adds a previously unknown son Adolphus (see below).

If Paymaster William Halpin was 27 at time of first appointment, this would imply he was born in 1779 (cf census returns that suggest 1777). Note his service is given here as from 24 October 1806 whereas in the Army Lists it is given as 6 January 1807; The Edinburgh Gazette of January 9th 1807 records "King's German Legion, 1st Regiment of Dragoons, William Halpin, Esq., to be Paymaster, vice Schmidern, who resigns". [The 1805 Army List gives the Paymaster of the King's
German Legion Cavalry as Ernest de Schmiedern, appointed 3 May 1804.] Note that
William Halpin is described as Esq. (Esquire), a rank above that of 'gentleman'.

There is no indication he held a military rank. The 1805 Army List includes only Oliver Halpin (Assistant surgeon, 44th Foot) and Paget Halpen, a Lieutenant on Irish Half pay, of the 124th Foot (Cunninghame's), disbanded in 1763. In support of this, other Army lists show no service as ensign or lieutenant. Note this record also states that his appointment was "without purchase" which means he did not have to pay for his Commission, perhaps suggesting an influential sponsor. 'On half pay by reduction' is a reference to the disbanding of the Kings German Legion in Hannover (Celle) in 1816.

The note that he has applied for a district Paymastership fits with letters of 1818 and 1819 (which I have not seen) in the National Archives of Ireland, Chief Secretary's Office Registered Papers (Francis J Crowley Bequest) [Reference CSO/RP/1819/451] from Captain William Halpin of Windsor Avenue, Annesley Bridge, Dublin to Charles Grant, Chief Secretary, Dublin Castle enclosing a letter from Prince Adolphus Frederick, Duke of Cambridge with a recommendation of Halpin for a post in revenue; and a letter from the Duke of Cambridge to Robert Peel, then Chief Secretary of Ireland recommending Halpin for government employment (with the replies, which would be of interest).

Note the Duke of Cambridge's name Adolphus and the name of Halpin's son born Febraury 1812 when he was serving in the Penisular and French wars (Field Marshal the Duke of Cambridge was Colonel in Chief of the Kings German Legion). The 1st and 2nd Dragoons (now Light Dragoons with new uniforms) of the King's German Legion arrived at Lisbon on 1st January 1812, remaining near there until March 12th and joining the rest of the Army at Entrenoz on March 23rd as the 2nd Brigade of the 2nd Cavalry Division. It is rather unlikely that William's heavily pregnant wife would have accompanied him to the Penisular and Adolphus was presumably born in Ireland.

What would be of interest is what William Halpin was doing prior to joining the KGL in Ireland at the age of 28 and what he did after being reduced to half pay.

Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Friday 08 February 13 17:34 GMT (UK)
Re: Paymaster William Halpin - 2

His service record return states his marriage was on 8th September 1798 in Wicklow. Of his children and from Church of Ireland baptism records and census returns we have the following:

Richard, baptised 9 January 1799, Wicklow, father William Halpin, mother Elizabeth (despite William giving Richard's birthdate as 8th January 1800).
William, born 31st July 1801 Limerick, baptised 4th August 1801 Wicklow, father William Halpin, mother Eliza.
John, born 28 June 1803, baptised 3rd July 1805 Wicklow, father Captain William Halpin, mother Eliza (note "Captain" and the date of baptism).
Anne, born 24 October 1805, baptised 4th November 1805 Wicklow, father William Halpin, mother Elizabeth.
George, born 13th October 1807, baptised "1st" October 1807 Tullamore, Co. Offaly, father William Halpin Paymaster-Kg Dragoons, mother Elizabeth Esmond.
[No records for Sophia or for Adolphus].

Thus William Halpin married Elizabeth Esmond on 8th September 1798 (note this is the day the 1798 Irish rebellion essentially ended, with the French under Humbert defeated at the Battle of Ballinamuck on the same day). Was William with the Loyalist forces during and before the rebellion (two Irish Fencible Cavalry Dragoon regiments were raised in 1794)? And did he have a government appointment between 1798 and 1806? (note son William born in Limerick). When son Richard died  in India in 1839, he was described as William Halpin of Castle Forbes, Dublin. the 1837 list of Registered Voters for Dublin show Wm. Halpin, gentleman, Castle Forbes, North Wall (note George Halpin, gentleman at Ballast-Yard, North Wall) and the National Archives of Ireland have records showing William Halpin leasing out several properties in Dublin in the vicinity of North Wall, between 1836 and 1840 (when he would have been aged 59 - 63).

In 1861 he was living at 39 Leinster Square in Bayswater, London, aged 84, described as a widower, Captain Half Pay Light Dragoons (with Anna 53 and Sophia 50, both unmarried, and William, Colonel Madras Army, 60 unmarried, and two maids). When did his wife Elizabeth die (presumably in Dublin)? Why did he come to London after presumably living in Dublin between 1818 and the 1850s (not in the England 1851 census)?  Was this to live with or near his sons William and George who both retired from the Madras Army in July and December 1861 respectively?
William Halpin died in December 1862 at 39 Leinster Square, Bayswater, London and
was buried in All Souls Cemetery, Kensal Green.

[Note, the only other Halpins in the National Archive records referred to above were Oliver Halpin, surgeon (born about 1777), of whose service I have details, and the ubiquitous Robert Crawford Halpin].
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: BillW on Monday 11 February 13 21:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the post, Ronald, very valuable.  A few thoughts and observations that others may also think of.

I have never known anyone to increase their age in a census knowingly.  Either William was born in 1777 or his age was supplied to the census by someone else and got it wrong, in which case the 1779 may apply.  It is pertinent to me in that neither do we know exactly in which year my George was born.  He was a much less forthcoming man in terms of such records (as found to date).  But by all calculations, he was born about 1779, or as early as 1777.  Were they twins?!  We have baptisms for their brother and  sister, James and Margaret (Halfpenny!) but not for this pair.  William was the only other Halpin to name a son George.  And John too, for that matter.

William's family naming pattern is interesting, if you hold store by such conventions.  First son Richard.  We have seen that a Richard Halpin was significant in signing George out of Beresford's militia and that a Richard Halpin, builder, appears to have been instrumental in getting all of the boys into Dublin guilds.  2nd son William - William of Orange, or (Nicholas) William Halpin, or himself, or his wife's unknown father, or who knows, but good to speculate.  3rd son John - we believe their father was John Halfpenny.  4th son George - after the king, father of the duke.  5th son Adolphus - after his patron.  Then Robert Crawford in 1815 - any ideas?  The only son with two forenames, his arrival took place during the conclusion of the Napoleonic wars, after which, as you show, William became "reduced" on half pay.

William's status on joining the KGL intrigues.  As noted, at son John's 1803 baptism in Wicklow, his father is shown as "Captain William Halpin".  But joining the KGL in 1806/7, the civilian epithet of Esq. is given.  Patronage from the Dukes of Cambridge continues through to the 1889 death of Rev Robert Crawford Halpin, private chaplain to the Duke. 

To his death, William proclaimed repeatedly that he was born in, and came from, not Ireland, but Wicklow.  In 1801, son William was born in Limerick 31st July but by 4th August you show that they were in Wicklow for his baptism.  Did his wife Elizabeth keep close to family there for support while William was away on duties?  Only after becoming part of the KGL do they stray from Wicklow although, in the census, Sophia is shown as born about 1811 in Wicklow. 

Could William, like George, have been in a loyalist militia prior to the KGL?  Recorded here a long time ago was a Lieutenant Cotter, a name closely bound up with the Wicklow Halpins at the time, who in 1781 mustered his "volunteer company of Wicklow foresters" to extinguish a fire in the Wicklow gaol and prevent the imminent escape of prisoners.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 18 February 13 23:45 GMT (UK)
March 10 [1813]. - To Verride eight miles.  I passed a village here, but forgot its name, the Headquarters of the First German Heavy Dragoons.  Having letters of recommendation to Captain Halpin, pay-master, I called on him, and the Captain wished me to stop a day or two with him, but the urgency of the time would not permit.  He also gave me letters to General Bock, who commanded all the cavalry, but I had no occasion for them.

Graham's Travels In Portugal And Spain, &c (1820).
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 18 February 13 23:48 GMT (UK)
CSO/RP/1819/451/1:

Windsor Avenue,
Annesley Bridge,
3rd November 1819.
Sir,
      I have the honor to inform you that I, this day, called at your office in hope of seeing you, and delivering the enclosed letter from His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge, but being informed that you would not, previous to your going to England, grant me an audience, I have taken the liberty of enclosing the letter.
I have the honor to be
Sir
Your most respectful
humble servant,
William Halpin.
Right Honorable
Charles Grant.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Grant,_1st_Baron_Glenelg]
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 18 February 13 23:50 GMT (UK)
CSO/RP/1819/451/2:

Cambridge House,
June 5th 1818.
Sir,
      Captain Halpin, formerly paymaster of one of my Regiments of the King's German Legion, has solicited my interference (sic) in his favor with you, towards being named to some small appointment in Ireland, that might enable him to provide for a family of eight children, totally dependent upon him, and I have very readily acquiesced in his request, as not only from the above circumstance, but from great respectability of conduct is he highly deserving of Protection.  His object is the procuring of Employment, which together with his half pay might assist with the education and support of so numerous a family - and I have not hesitated in giving all the aid in my power, to his laudable views, by furnishing him with this recommendation to Your [Honor?] - and I can add that I shall have great satisfaction in learning that you may have found it within your power to forward Captain Halpin's request, as I feel assured he will not discredit your protection.

I remain, Sir,
Yours very sincerely, Alphonsus Frederick.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Monday 18 February 13 23:56 GMT (UK)
CSO/RP/1819/451/1/A:

Hanover, October 17th 1819.
Sir,
      In consequence of the reduction of the King's German Legion in 1816, Mr Halpin, the Paymaster of one of the Battalions, a most highly respectable man, was left with a very numerous family and nothing but his half pay for their support.
     I felt such interest in Mr Halpin's situation that I at that time recommended him strongly to Lord Whitworth, from whom I received a highly satisfactory answer, in which His Lordship stated his hopes of being able to find a small appointment for him in the Revenue which he might be able to hold with his half-pay.  Lord Whitworth returned to England, however, without being able to realize the hope he had held out, having however recommended Mr Halpin to Earl Talbot's favorable consideration.
     Mr Halpin remaining however unemployed, I last year, at his request, gave him a letter to Mr Peel, who was however, just at that moment, about to relinquish his situation of Chief Secretary in Ireland and who was therefore unable to aid my wish of providing for Mr Halpin, who has again represented to me the distressing situation in which he finds himself with nine children dependent upon him, soliciting me at the same time to recommend him to the Ministry in England, for a small situation in Ireland, where he resides.  I have however, informed him that I would do what I thought would much more probably conduce to his advantage - I would strongly recommend him to You, as a highly deserving man for whose trying situation I felt considerable interest, and for whom it would not only be highly gratifying to me if you should be able to aid his wishes for a small appointment, but would at the same time be an act of most compassionate consideration towards a worthy individual struggling with the greatest difficulties in consequence of a most numerous and helpless family.
I remain, Sir,
Yours very sincerely,
Adolphus Frederick.
Right Honorable
Charles Grant.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Tuesday 19 February 13 00:18 GMT (UK)
From the little I've made of the scribbled cover replies (which I'll get to you soon), they all express their sincere desire to find a placement for Captain Halpin.  But all doubt a position will be made available any time soon, on account of cutbacks in every department of government in Ireland.  The Napoleonic wars left England heavily in debt (today's debts are minuscule by comparison) and swingeing cuts to government expenditure were the order of the day.  I'm no expert here, but the impression I get is that we're witnessing - with the end of the wars in France - the concomitant end of the age of patronage.  From the 1820s onward the emphasis was on efficiency in government and the eradication of corruption - a worthy aim rarely realized, particularly in Ireland.  The first great age of free market enterprise commenced at that time and with it the second age of the self-made man.  The first phase of the industrial revolution was over, its second was underway (by laying transoceanic telegraph cables Captain R C Halpin played a pivotal role in this resurgence).  So, in the letters I've posted above, we see Captain William Halpin seeking the protection of his patrons at a time when the modern world is really coming into its own.

After a long post-war recession economic life began to pick up in England in the 1840s (characterised by the inevitable irrational boom - at that time in Railway stocks - which bankrupted William Henry Halpin, jnr).  As usual, however, a recovery did not take place in Ireland - not exactly, at any rate - where Landlordism kept the mass of people trapped in a medieval form of feudalism and Famine laid waste to so many lives.  Things only began to change, ever so slowly, after the Famine, when the Encumbered Estates Act allowed enterprising outsiders like Francis Wakefield to move from England to Ireland; these men bought up struggling estates overburdened with Famine-induced debt.  This injection of new money brought with it an injection of fresh ideas, and - for radicals at least - a renewal of hope for political independence in Ireland.  Wakefield, who settled in Wicklow and became Chairman of the Board of Commissioners there, worked in tandem with Robert Wellington Halpin (my forebear) to break the power of the old order in an ultimately vain attempt to free up economic life.  Both men - who were free market capitalists and supporters of Gladstone's reform agenda - were fiercely opposed by the Bridge-Inn Halpins, who remained stubbornly loyal to the old order and wholly opposed to any relaxation of the oppression of Irish Catholics.  It was out of that bitter dispute, between those in favour of change for all and those opposed to it for most - that much of my family lore arose, and it's in sympathy with that lore that I continue to search for proof, no matter how tenuous, of a familial link between the Bridge-Inn Halpins and their fiercest political rivals, the Halpins of Main Street.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Wednesday 20 February 13 17:34 GMT (UK)
On Paget Halpen / Halpin

Kenneth Cooke summarised information on Paget Halpen very well on 2 March 2010.

Following my delving into Army Lists etc. for William Halpin, I would add the
following (with, apologies, some repetition of Kenneth Cooke's information):

"A Handlist of Voters of Maryborough, 1760." shows a Pagett Halpen "in the Army"; as a voter he presumably was a freeholder.

1760 Army List: 92nd Regiment of Foot Paget Halpen, Ensign 25 Jan. 1760 [92nd Foot, the Donegal Light Infantry, was formed in 1760 by Lieut-Col. Commanding Sir Ralph Gore Bt (later General, the 1st Earl of Ross, onetime CinC Ireland), announced in the London Magazine and the Scots Magazine of February 1760].

Appointment as an Ensign would suggest Paget was about 16 - 18 in 1760, making him born possibly between 1742 and 1744.

1762 Army List:  Ensign Paget Halpen crossed out on 92nd Foot; Paget Halpen, Lieutenant, 124th Regiment of Foot (Cunninghame's) 13 Feb. 1762 [Regiment formed by Lt-Col Robert Cunninghame [later General, Adjutant General of Ireland 1772, Irish CinC 1795] Regiment disbanded in 1763 [1763, Treaty of Paris, peace after 7 years' war with France, Spain etc.]. The 1770 Army List shows the whole 124th Regiment (Officers) on Irish Half Pay list, Lieutenants included Paget Halpen. Irish Half Pay for a Lieutenant was about £41 per annum (same as English). Paget Halpen remains on Army Lists 124th Regiment, Irish Half Pay from 1770, through  1798, 1799, 1803, 1805,1810 to 1818 (not in 1819 list), so he continued to receive Half Pay for some 55 years!

Paget Halpin, Esq. of Maryboro', Queen's County, married Margaret Delane of St James, Dublin on 7 May 1794 in Dublin [Perogative Marriage License]. Although from the possible date of birth above Paget Halpin would have been about 51 at this marriage, there is no doubt this is the same man since his widow applies for an Army pension in 1818 (see below).

In 1807 Paget Halpin of Maryborough, Queen's County received £43-9-9d for damages he sustained by a new road [Accounts presented to the House of Commons of the Presentments passed by the Grand Jury of Ireland, at the Summer Assizes].

From the Eleventh Report of the Commissioners appointed to enquire into the fees etc ... in Ireland, published by the House of Commons in 1812, for Queen's County there is liability of £23-14-9d for a Bond due from Paget Halpin, as a Surety, of Ballynamoney, Queen's County.

The National Archives (WO 42/20 H43) has papers from Mrs Margaret Halpin for an Army pension: Mrs Margaret Halpin of No 32 Aungun (?Arran) Street (Dublin), wife of Paget Halpin, Lieutenant 124th Regt. of Foot, died 14 January 1816, married 10 May 1794, "to whom no provision was left for a maintenance", signed by Margaret Halpin and dated Dublin August 13th 1819. Certification that "Lieut Paget Halpin upon Half pay on 19th April 1763 as a reduced Lieutenant of the late 124th Regt. of Foot, his affidavits were regularly and correctly returned to this office to Decr. 1815 to which time he was paid". Where the Colonel of the Regiment would have signed there is a statement that "The Colonel and every Officer of the 124th Regt. are long dead except a Lieut. J. Maxwell". There is a certified copy of marriage of Paget Halpen in the Queens County, Esq., and Margaret Delane of the Parish of St James in the Diocese of Dublin, Spinster, by the Most Revd. Father  Richard 'and so forth' (sic), dated 9th day of May 1794; by Special Licence from the Perogative Court in Ireland. Margaret Halpin is described as "now resident in Ashby de la Zouche in the County of Leicester" in a sworn statement from there, dated 19 October 1818. If the possible date of birth above is correct, he would have been about 75 when he died.

Paget is a very unusual first name. Paget Halpen / Halpin (above) was born 1742-4, possibly the son of Mark Halpen of Maryborough and Mary Paget who married about 1740. Paget Halpin is listed in the "A Dictionary of Members of the Dublin Book Trade 1550-1800" [2000] as an engraver of 44 Mecklenburg Street, Dublin, with Philip Halpin, 1792 - 1795 and then at 32 Mecklenburg Street alone from 1801 - 1810. Paget's wife Margaret Delane was the daughter of Solomon Delane [c.1727-1812], a well-known landscape painter in Rome and Dublin [appointed Cork Herald by patent of 11th January, 1797], probably from his first marriage [his eldest daughter Susanna, "a great beauty" married the portrait painter Robert Home on 8th September 1783 in Dublin (Irish Arts Review)].
Also listed in the above Dictionary and in the Dictionary of Irish Artists 1913 is the possibly better known Patrick Halpin, engraver 1757 - 1807, of Blackamoor Yard and then 35 Temple Bar, who was also firstly Assistant Teller and then Teller of Stamps in Dublin from 1793 to 1807 (died June 1807). Apparently Patrick Halpin signed his works as HP, PHP and Patt.Halpin; it is suggested that other engravings signed PH are those of Paget Halpin.
This association of Halpins through their highly skilled engraving work suggests Patrick, Paget and Philip Halpin are all closely related (?brothers). Patrick Halpin's son was John Edmond Halpin, a  miniature painter and actor, born in 1764, the "son of Patrick Halpin and his wife
Eleanor" [A Dictionary of Irish Artists, 1913], of which more later.




Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Bigbird68 on Wednesday 20 February 13 17:42 GMT (UK)
Who was Oliver Halpin?

From our previous posts, Oliver Halpin was an Army surgeon. More recent research has revealed the following.

From his death (of which more later) he was born in 1776.

He qualified as a doctor, M.D. of the University of Edinburgh in 1802 [Edinburgh Advertiser for 1802: "University of Edinburgh: Yesterday the University conferred the degree of Doctor in Medicine on the following Gentlemen, after the usual public and private trials: . . .  From Ireland  Oliver Halpin, Dissertationes Inaugurales - Febre Intermittente"].

From his own account in "Returns of Officers Services" of 1828 in the National Archives [WO 25/761/31] he was Assistant Surgeon of the 44th Regiment of Foot from 25 September 1803, 'without purchase'; Surgeon of the Royal Corsican Rangers from 11 April 1812 (without purchase); Surgeon of the 44th Regiment of Foot from 29 April 1813 (without purchase), on half pay by reduction 23 March 1816; Surgeon of the 76th Regiment of Foot from 20 November 1816 (without purchase); Surgeon of the 9th Royal Veteran Battalion from 12 April 1821 on half pay "from ill health". "To remain on half pay". He had served 16 years, 10 months and 15 days on full pay and 8 years, 5 months and 4 days on half pay at the time the return was made (1828).
He states he was married in Dublin on 31 July 1828 and in Ostende on 20 December 1828 (see below). He was living "generally in Ostende but lately for some months in England and Ireland" in 1828.

Army Lists and Gazettes confirm his service and his retirement on half pay was gazetted in the Edinburgh Gazette of 19 April 1821. His service was generally with the 2nd Battalion, 44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot, formed in 1803 and serving in the Peninsular War and at Waterloo. The 2nd Battalion fought at the Battle of Fuentes de Onoro (1811), the Siege of Badajoz (1812) and the Battle of Salamanca (1812) when the Battalion captured the French Imperial Eagle of the French 62nd Regiment. Between April 1812 and April 1813, Oliver Halpin served with the Royal Corsican Rangers, probably in the Ionian Islands. Back with the 2nd Battalion of the 44th, he was at the Battle of Quatre Bras (1815), and the Battle of Waterloo (1815) and was awarded the Waterloo Medal. The battalion was disbanded in 1816 at the conclusion of the wars. Oliver Halpin then was Surgeon to the 76th Regiment of Foot between November 1816 and April 1821. I believe the 76th Foot were part of the Garrison in Canada during that time. He would have been invalided on half pay into the 9th Royal Veteran Battalion on 12 April 1821.

Dublin records show the marriage of Oliver Halpin to Theresa Van Loo, both of the Parish of St George, on 31 July 1828. Oliver would have been 51 when married.

Papers in the National Archives [WO 42/20 H44] show Oliver Halpin died on 21 June 1838 in Ostend (buried 25 June 1838, Ostend). The papers are in support of an application for a pension from Mary Theresa Halpin of Quai Street, Ostend, married St George's Church, Dublin on 31 July 1828, to Oliver Halpin, Esq., M.D., late Surgeon 9th Royal Veteran Battalion, died at Ostend 21 June 1838 aged 61. A certificate of marriage from Dublin and certificates of death and burial from Ostende are included. A final certified paper, in Flemish with an attached translation from the British Consulate in Ostend, states that "Oliver Halpin, aged 61 years, 6 months and 29 days, born in Dublin England (sic), residing in Ostende, a Doctor, Husband of Maria Theresa Van Loo residing in this place, son of Patrick and of Eleanor Lambert both deceased at Dublin, died yesterday at 9 PM at his residence 68 Quay Street".

Thus Oliver Halpin was born in 1776 in Dublin, son of Patrick Halpin and Eleanor Lambert. This would suggest (see my Post on Paget Halpin) that he is the son of the engraver Patrick Halpin "and his wife Eleanor" and thus closely related to Paget Halpin (?his uncle) and the younger brother of John Edmund Halpin, the miniature painter and actor.





Title: Re: Paget Halpen
Post by: kenneth cooke on Sunday 24 February 13 03:51 GMT (UK)
In reply to Bigbird's post No.275 re Paget Halpen-
The information that Paget was on the army lists from 1760 well into the 1800s is very useful.
I had my doubts that he could be one and the same person, but now I am reassured.
But this now raises a new question- could Paget, a 16 or 18 year old in 1760, be a freeholder, and eligible to vote in the Maryborough election of that year ? The voter was certainly 'in the army' so he must be the ensign of that name.
Secondly, I agree with Bigbird that Paget was Mark's son, and therefore the brother of Elizabeth Halpen, who married Eugene Sweny in 1777. But I have found no evidence that her mother was Mary Paget. This is claimed by the Sweny pedigree held by the old Office of Arms, Dublin. This document shows other signs of the books having been cooked. The compiler did not know, however, that 'Paget' had been in the family since at least 1682, and a Mary Paget in 1777 was unnecessary. It is more likely that a Halpen/Paget marriage had occurred in the 17th. century.
Thanks again Bigbird; I'll reply more fully in a few days' time.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Sunday 24 February 13 23:43 GMT (UK)
found recently, any help?
This page is an index of 54,763 obituaries of people who were born and/or died in Ireland, or whose deaths were mentioned in Irish newspapers. The actual obituaries are not necessarily available online. They have been indexed from newspapers all over the U.S. and Canada, as well as Ireland and elsewhere, including 25,056 entries from The Cork Examiner of the 19th and early 20th century, and 1,947 entries from the 19th century [New York] Irish-American. Refer to the Publications List to identify the source.

Ireland Old News - Death Notice Index

HALPIN, Ann "relict of Pat" (BENNET); 54; KER IRL>New Orleans LA; Daily Picayune; 1890-11-9; dja
HALPIN, Edward Evelyn; 0; Cork City COR IRL; Cork Examiner; 1855-2-7; dja
HALPIN, Edward Thomas; 8; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1863-9-3; dja
HALPIN, Eliza ( ); ; Gowran Kingstown DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1881-2-5; dja
HALPIN, Eston C; ; Wicklow Town WIC IRL; Irish-American (NYC NY); 1857-8-15; dja
HALPIN, James; 68; Dublin DUB IRL>New York NY; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-7-30; dja
HALPIN, John; ; Liverpool ENG>at sea; Belfast Weekly News; 1893-11-4; ion
HALPIN, Joseph "Joe"; ; Cobh COR IRL; Irish Examiner; 2000-2-23; dja
HALPIN, Luke; ; Drumcorath MEA IRL>New York City NYC NY; Irish-American; 1885-2-7; dja
HALPIN, Mary (DAY); ; Limerick LIM IRL; Evening Echo (COR IRL); 2002-8-2; dja
HALPIN, P J; ; Kilmallock LIM IRL; Irish Examiner (COR IRL); 2003-9-12; dja
HALPIN, Pat; 60; Knockalough Kilmihill CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1913-2-11; dja
HALPIN, Patrick; ; Cahir Cloughmore CLA IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1864-8-17; dja
HALPIN, Richard; ; Howth DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1855-5-9; dja
HALPIN, Sophy Miss; ; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-11-7; dja
HALPIN, Thomas Rev; ; Dublin DUB IRL; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1878-7-22; dja
HALPIN, William; ; Bayswater LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1862-12-31; dja
HALPIN, William; 60; London LND ENG; Cork Examiner (COR IRL); 1865-4-28; dja
HALPIN, William Noel; 42; Limerick IRL>S Windsor CT; Hartford Courant; 1999-8-7; townsend
Title: How many Paget Halpens ?
Post by: kenneth cooke on Monday 25 February 13 00:08 GMT (UK)
How many Paget Halpens were there ? 
I recently received details of a deed-poll (a one-way affair, not requiring agreement between two or more persons, as with an indented deed):

Halpen/Halpen: 133 220 90485.
Memorial of a Deed Poll dated 11th February 1748 made by Paget Halpen of Hamstead, Co. Dublin, Gent, to Mark Halpen whereby the said PH for the Considerations therein mentioned did bargain sell assign transfer and make over unto the said MH all his right and interest in - and to his leasehold interest in - Hamstead and all the household goods in his house in Hamstead and to all other reale (sic) and personal effects, together with all the money due and owing to him.  To hold all and singular the said several granted premises unto the said Mark Halpen...
Wit. by William Clarke, Edward Butler, Attorney at Law and Thos. Fitzmaurice, Clerk to the said E. Butler.

In 1748, our Paget was still a boy. There must have been another, older Paget, who signed over his property in Hamstead, Dublin, to a Mark Halpen.
Do we have a candidate ? Yes, we do. It is Padget Halfpenny, born 1682, son of Nicholas of Maryborough. He would have been 66 years old in 1748.

It appears therefore, that Mark was Paget’s son, and the second Paget was Mark’s son, probably the eldest, as he later inherited Mark’s property of Ballynamony.

Nicholas abt. 1650 >  Padget 1682 >  Mark abt. 1710 >  Paget abt. 1743

Mark’s children included Elizabeth, abt. 1755, and perhaps Philip and Patrick.

Paget (2) and his wife Margaret Delane (mar.1794) were legally separated in 1812.
Later, in 1824, a third Paget Halpen was noted as a coastal passenger in the USA. He was 29, so born about 1795. No country of birth is shown, but he would certainly fit in as a son of Paget and Margaret.
Title: Re: Paget Halpin
Post by: kenneth cooke on Monday 25 February 13 23:24 GMT (UK)
I have just found a reference on Family Search (LDS) to the Probate of Paget Halpin (sic) in
Co. Laois-
Ireland, Landed Estate Court Files 1850-1885
May-June 1856 Probate Paget Halpin, Laois Doc. 018, Vol. 040

The image should have been available, but after registering, I was told that it was not.
Any ideas on how to view the details of this probate ?
Ken
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Monday 25 February 13 23:29 GMT (UK)
Who is this Paget Halpin who died in 1856 ?
Did PH (3) return from the USA ? Or did he die there and his estate in Ireland was settled ?
 
Title: Paget Halpen/Halpin
Post by: kenneth cooke on Tuesday 26 February 13 03:45 GMT (UK)
Could be a coincidence- the last time that Paget was mentioned in the USA still living was in 1856.
From 1846 to 1856 he is mentioned five times when he acquired land in Texas, a total of about 3000 acres, from land 'freed' from Mexico.
He is only mentioned once more, in the Texas Land Extracts in 1904- 'the heirs of Paget Halpin'.
Hopefully, the details of the probate in Co. Laois from 1856 will shed more light on Paget.
Title: The Apothecary Connection
Post by: kenneth cooke on Wednesday 27 February 13 06:32 GMT (UK)
The Apothecary Connection

Mark Halpen (1) 1684-1767, an Irish apothecary had shops in Tunbridge and London.

In 1771 Mark Halpen (2), gentleman of Ballynamoney leased a tenement in Maryborough town, from the estate of Wm Gorman, an apothecary.

In 1777 Mark’s daughter Elizabeth married Eugene Sweny, a Druggist of Dublin.

Eugene’s grandson, Dr. Mark Sweny, opened a chemist shop at 1 Lincoln Pl. Dublin, which was carried on by his son, Fredk. Wm. Sweny until 1924.
Title: Halpen of Maryborough
Post by: kenneth cooke on Friday 01 March 13 23:28 GMT (UK)
Halpen of Maryborough

Nicholas ‘Generosus’ of Maryborough c.1650
_____l____________________________________________
Paget (1) 1682- fl.1748             Mark (1) 1684-1768 (to England)
          l
Mark (2) c.1710 of Ballynamony
______l______________________________________________________
Paget (2) c.1742- 1816    ?Phillip      ?Patrick    Elizabeth c. 1755
m.1794 M.Delane                                             m.1777 Eugene Sweny
          l                                     
Paget (3) 1795- ?1856             
to USA                                                       

Mark Halpen (1) (1684-1768) 

Registry of Deeds Ireland- Deed of Mortgage Vol.2, Page 549, Memorial No. 625 of 30 July 1709 by Mark Hallpen (no details yet)

From British History Online:
Calendar of Treasury Books by Shaw & Slingsby editors, 1955, Vol. 28, 1714  Declared accounts: Army- Money paid for several ordinary and extraordinary services- Pay of the officers at the hospital at Dunkirk:
Mark Halpen and Robert Taylor, at 5 s. a day as Apothecary's mates, 25.12.1713 to 24.6.1714- Total £91  (Total at Dunkirk £8226.0.9) (Master Apoth. 10s/day, Physicians 20s/day)
Mark Halpen would have been 30 years old then.

Then, on 22 February 1730 a Mark Halpenn married an older woman, Elizabeth Lawley, at Somerset House, Westminster. She was the widow of Baronet Lawley of Spoonhill, Shropshire, who had died just three weeks earlier. Halpenn was Irish, and had previously been an apothecary. (As Lady Lawley’s husband, he gains a  mention in ‘The English Baronetage’ from 1741 to 1815, as Halpen[n], Halfpenn & Halfpenny).

From the Universal Spectator and Weekly Journal, Saturday April 24th 1731:
The Lady Lawley, Relict of Sir Thomas Lawley, Bart. And Niece of Dr. Bateman, was lately marry’d at Somerset-House Chapel to Mr. Halpen, who formerly kept two Apothecary-Shops at the same Time,  one at Tunbridge-Wells, and the other in Town, but has some Time ago left off Business, having had a considerable Fortune fallen to him.

He had to agree to keep the marriage secret for one year, while she wore her widow’s weeds. As her husband, he had control over her estates and personal assets. It seems that they soon fell out, and to complicate matters, her stepson, the new baronet, took steps to gain control of his father’s estate. The obvious first step for the courts was to get Halpen out of the way.
At the court of the Exchequer, on 18.11.1733, it was decreed that Halpen should convey the rights
over Lady Lawley’s estate to two trustees, named by her.

In 1732 Mark Halpen, gent, subscribed to ‘Royal Genealogies, or The General Tables of Emperors,
Kings and Princes, from Adam to These Times’ 1732, James Anderson, London. Subject- 'History'
 
On 11.9.1734, a Mark Halpen was convicted at the Old Bailey for assault and breaking the peace at
the office of the Exchequer some months earlier, after a dispute when his demands for money were rejected. It is evident that he was an Irishman, and proud of it. He was ordered to pay a fine of £5.

Next he appealed to the House of Lords to reverse the decree from the Exchequer, but on 11.2.1735, the decree was confirmed, and Halpen’s appeal dismissed.  He and Lady Lawley had separated by then.  She made her will on 27 Jan. 1739, and died the same year. The will was read in 1740. She left her husband Mark Halpenn the sum of one shilling.

From church records, St. Pancras Old Church, Westminster, London:
Mark Halpen, buried 9 August 1767

From the Gazetteer and New Daily Advertiser, Saturday August 13th 1768:
DIED: At Bath, suddenly, Mark Halpen, Esq; in the 83rd year of his age; he was formerly an apothecary to her Royal Highness the Princess Amelia, married Lady Lawley, relict of the late Sir Thomas Lawley, Bart. and in the wars of 1745, and the last wars, attended the Britannic military hospitals in foreign parts, with great reputation.  (Born abt 1684)

Princess Amelia (1711-1786), the second daughter of George ll was a sickly child but healthy as an adult. In 1722 her mother had her inoculated against smallpox, by ‘variolation’.  She never married.
Title: Halpen Maryborough Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Friday 01 March 13 23:32 GMT (UK)
Mark Halpen (2)
A Handlist of Voters of Maryborough of 1760- Mark Halpen, Ballymony "under Mr. Westenraa’s influence", also signed petition supporting John Parnell. (Paget was also on the Voter’s List)

Deed of Lease & Release, signed & dated 3.5.1771
From John Strange to Mark Halpen, Gentleman of Ballynamoney, Q.Co.  A Tenement in Maryborough town, previously owned by William Gorman, uncle of the vendor, apothecary of M’borough, deceased.

Three Paget Halpens
Paget (1)

Registry of Kilkenny School (Kilkenny) 1685-1800 by T.U. Sadleir 1924:
Halfpenny Padget, 13 yrs, Aug 31 1696 (son of Nicholas of Queens Co.)  [born Sep/Oct 1682]

From Alumni Dublinenses (Trinity College):
HALPENNY, PAGITT, Pen (Dr Hinton, Queen's Co.), Nov 1, 1698, aged 16;  son of Nicholas, Generosus; b. Queen's Co. (1682),[Pensioner=paid own fees; teacher’s name in brackets; generosus=gentleman]

Indented Deed Vol.57, Page 38, Memorial No.37082 of 28.2.1727 Pageit Halfpenny, Gent, of Drumcondra, Dublin- ‘bought some of the seized property’.

Halpen/Halpen: 133 220 90485.
Memorial of a Deed Poll dated 11th February 1748 made by Paget Halpen of Hamstead, Co. Dublin, Gent, to Mark Halpen whereby the said PH for the Considerations therein mentioned did bargain sell assign transfer and make over unto the said MH all his right and interest in - and to his leasehold interest in - Hamstead and all the household goods in his house in Hamstead and to all other real and personal effects, together with all the money due and owing to him.

Paget (2)

From the London Evening Post, Saturday February 16th 1760:
His Majesty has been pleased to constitute and appoint Sir Ralph Gore, Bart. to be Lieutenant Colonel Commandant of a Battalion of Foot, to be forthwith raised in Ireland.
Paget Halpen and George Gore to be Ensigns in the said Regiment.

A Handlist of Voters of Maryborough of 1760 shows a Pagett Halpen- ‘in the army’. He was expected to vote for Mr. Westenraa (as was Mark Halpen) and Sir Ralph Gore.

A Lieut. Halpen was a passenger on the packet from Holyhead which arrived in Dublin, reported in Freeman’s Journal on 10.9.1763.
 
On the Army List of 1778 there was a Paget Halpen of Maryborough, a lieutenant on half pay (reserve) in the 124th Foot Regt.

1801 Army List (Page 504) On the Irish Half-Pay: 124th Foot, Disbanded 1763, Lieut Paget Halpen.

Later there was a copper engraver of the same name, of 44 Mecklenburg St., listed from about 1790-1810, one of several Dublin engravers named Halpen or Halpin.  He is probably the same one who married Margaret Delane at St. James, Dublin on 9 May 1794-   Dublin Prerogative Marriage Licenses- Halpin Paget of Maryboro Queens Co. and Margaret Delane
Title: Halpen of Maryborough Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Friday 01 March 13 23:36 GMT (UK)
Halpen/Halpin Engravers:
Paget, active 1792-1810, 44 Meck. St. 1796-1800
Philip,                                 “     “      “   1792-1795
Patrick,  “      1757- ?d.1807 Blackamoor Yard -1771-  35 Temple Bar 1774-1783
Patrick was also an ‘assistant teller’, then ‘Teller of Stamps’.

In 1807 Paget Halpin of Maryborough, Queen's County received £43-9-9d for damages he sustained by a new road [Accounts presented to the House of Commons of the Presentments passed by the Grand Jury of Ireland, at the Summer Assizes].

House of Commons Parliamentary Papers dated 1812 - The second part of the eleventh report of  the commissioners appointed to enquire into fees, etc... .
Under the subheading Arrears and Balances: Stamp Office Queen's County: "4th July 1786.  Paget Halpin, Esq. Ballynamoney, Queen's County; Boys Smith, Surgeon, Maryborough." 
It seems Smith and Halpin owed £23 14 9..."The Distributor and Boys Smith, one of his sureties, are both dead, without leaving property.  Mr. Paget Halpen, the other surety, is solvent."

Indented deed of annuity dated 31st October 1812 concerning the separation of Paget Halpin, of Maryborough, Queen’s County, Esq., and Margaret (Delane) Halpin of the city of Dublin, wife to said Paget Halpin. Settlement collateral appears to be “all of the Town and Lands of Ballinamoney/ Ballinamona, Ballyclider and Ballymackin, situate in the Barony of Maryborough in Queen’s County". 

Paget (3)
Another Paget Halpen, aged 29, arrived in New York on the schooner ‘Hope Mary Ann’ from New Orleans, Louisiana on 3.5.1824 (born abt 1795). No birthplace was shown, but he was a US citizen and a ‘shugar planter’. Present and intended residence - New Orleans. Only other passengers were Wm. Leonard, 29, farmer, also of New Orleans, and Robt O’Reilly,16, planter, from Ireland. 
 
A Paget Halpen next appears back in Louisiana. He was one of seven signatories to a public  notice in the Baton Rouge Gazette, of 17.3.1827.  It read: “Charles Ash Mix is declared a liar, swindler and a villain; beware of him.” 

In the adjoining territory of Texas on 16 March 1839, Paget Halpen was one of 28 men at a meeting to establish Houston’s first Episcopalian church. (From ‘Houston, the Unknown City’ 1991 by Marguerite Johnston). Then, in Sept. the same year his name is found on the tax list in the Texas Morning Star as owing $13.75 to the City of Houston.
He is also on a list of men claiming a state pension for having fought in the war to ‘free’ Texas-‘Survivors of the Revolution which separated Texas from Mexico, 1835-42’.

P.Halpen was a passenger on the schooner 'Hornet' from Galveston, Texas, arriving New Orleans on 20.10.1840

Later there are at least five entries in the Texas Land Titles Abstracts, from 1846 to 1856, and then one for “the heirs of Paget Halpin” in 1906.

Reference on Family Search (LDS) to the Probate of Paget Halpin (sic) in Co. Laois-
Ireland, Landed Estate Court Files 1850-1885
May-June 1856 Probate Paget Halpin, Laois Doc. 018, Vol. 040
Did Paget (3) return from the USA ? Or did he die there, and does the above refer to the settlement of his estate in Ireland ?
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: tompion on Saturday 02 March 13 12:40 GMT (UK)
London Gazette 15 March 1878: Award of a patent to Druitt Halpin, of Old Charlton, in the County of Kent for the invention of 'improvements in apparatus for recovering sunken vessels and other purposes'.

Apologies if this has been noted before.
Title: Re: Paget Halpin
Post by: kenneth cooke on Tuesday 05 March 13 23:54 GMT (UK)
In my last reply, I referred to Paget Halpin (3) and asked if he had returned to Ireland.
I have now found the reference in the Landed Estate Court Rental Files of 1856. It seems to refer to Paget (2) who died 40 years earlier. It has nothing to do with Probate, but perhaps it was meant to refer to his estate, as he was deceased.
It involves another property 'on the green at Maryborough' of less than an acre, which was 'bounded on the east by Paget Halpin'.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Wednesday 13 March 13 22:42 GMT (UK)
Terrific effort, Ken.  It's remarkable how much detail you've managed to uncover.  Tremendous work.  I'll need a few days to absorb it all.  In the meantime, you might take a look at this -

Paget Halpin to Harris (or Halpin to Halpin) Vol. 649 Page 538 Record No. 452451

Indented deed of annuity dated 31st October 1812 between Paget Halpin, Maryborough, Queen's County, Esquire, of the first part and Margaret Halpin, of the City of Dublin, wife to said Paget Halpin, of the 2nd part and Mich. Harris of said city, Esquire, of the 3rd part whereby after reciting that several disputes have [taken place?] between PH and Margaret his wife in consequence of which the said Margaret has lived apart from her husband for several years without any kind of [support] from him and did institute a suit in the [...?...] Court of the [...?...] of [...?...] and Terms against her said husband for divorce a Mensa et Thoro ["from table and bed"*] and for the recovery of alimony and in which suit several proceedings were had and an order of said Court found in favour of said Margaret for interim alimony which now amounts to a sum of £800 or thereabouts, exclusive of costs and in order to adjust said disputes and to make some provision for the said M., who it was thereby agreed should as she had theretofore done live separate and apart in future from her said husband.  The said parties have come to an agreement that the said Paget should grant an annuity as hereafter [...?...] to the said Mich. Harris for her support and that she should from the date thereof live separate and apart from her said husband and that he should not in any way molest the said Margaret in her so doing and should also ensure a sum of Five Hundred pounds payable to her or to her Executors...upon the death of said Paget in lieu of alimony...[£800 being the whole of the costs incurred in the Ecclesiastical Court, plus £100 per year support, plus insurance to cover the £500... What the hell did Paget do to her?  Paget's collateral appears to be] "all of the Town and Lands of Ballinamona, Ballyclider (?), and Ballumackin, situate in the Barony of Maryborough in Queen's County.  Witnessed by Wm. Geraghty and Wm. Clarke - Paget Halpin, seal.

Apologies for textual omissions - the records I have access to in the Registry of Deeds are copies of the originals.  Sometimes those copies are readable.  Sometimes, however, they're not.  Unfortunately, I can't photograph the deeds I'm having trouble with as that isn't allowed (I'd like to insert them into this thread and ask your help with transcription, which is often very difficult).  If you'd like to see the originals yourself, you can purchase copies of them from the Registry for a fee of €20.

*It it refers to a type of divorce in which the couple is legally separated, but the marriage is still considered valid.  When a couple receives an a mensa et thoro divorce, it is essentially a court-sanctioned separation, meaning that the partners may legally live apart, but they are still legally married. The legitimacy of children in the marriage remains intact, and the partners may not remarry. This type of divorce allows partners to live apart without fear of being taken to court for desertion.  Sometimes, this type of divorce is used when one partner is extremely abusive, keeping the marriage legitimate while the couple is separated; it may give them a chance to work out the problems in their relationship while living in legally sanctioned separate dwellings. Spouses may also request it to protect themselves from accusations of desertion or abandonment.  (See -  http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-mensa-et-thoro.htm).
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Thursday 14 March 13 00:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, Ray. Sounds like it was a stormy marriage. Paget was 52 when he married, and perhaps was short of patience, and used to being independent.
If the American Paget was their son, as I believe, I can imagine that he had good reasons for emigrating, to escape the warring between his parents.
He would have been 21 when his father died, so no doubt came into some money then, enough to set him up as a planter in the USA.

Referring back to the Landed Estates 'Court Rentals', they were in fact sales catalogues,
printed to facilitate the sale of bankrupt estates, in order to discharge debts as the value of land plummetted from the time leading up to the Famine (1840s).
The stumbling block was the fact that most land was ‘entailed’ meaning it could not be sold or disposed of at will. The new laws allowed the state to take ownership of the land in question, and then sell it with a ‘parliamentary’ title, free from the threat of contested ownership.  From findmypast.ie

It is interesting to note that Halpens no longer leased the land near Maryborough in 1856. It seems that the ‘head rent’ was held by Robert Onions, and the land was part of the estate of Sir Henry Parnell (great uncle of Charles Stewart Parnell), who had committed suicide in 1842.
‘The lands called the House Quarter of the lands of Ballinamoneen, otherwise Ballinamony, otherwise Bloomfield, with the subdenomination thereof called Ballycliden, situate in the Parish of Stroboe, Barony of Maryborough East, Queens County.
Held under Lease dated 10th. November 1837 for three lives, with a covenant to renew for one additional life.’  From Ireland Landed Estates Court Rental Files 1850-1885 (findmypast.ie)   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Thursday 14 March 13 00:21 GMT (UK)
Very interesting, Ken.  There are a few Halpin connections to the Parnells, which I'll dig out and post over the next few days. 

Here's a curly one for you -
Death
.

Captain William Halpin Paterson Sweny, CBE, RD, RNR, formerly Marine Superintendent of the P + O, died at Belvedere, Kent, recently at the age of 79.
- The Times, August 23, 1951.
Title: Re: Wm Halpin Patterson Sweny
Post by: kenneth cooke on Thursday 14 March 13 02:35 GMT (UK)
Yes Ray, we know him. In fact, I have just realised, he was my grandfather's cousin.
His father was Rev. Eugene Sweny, Rector of Stiffkey, (pron.'stewkey') Norfolk, who was the brother of my gr.grandmother, Margaret Sweny. They were cousins of the chemist of Lincoln Place.
WPHS was awarded the CBE, I believe it was for accompanying King George V to the Delhi Durbar of 1911.
He's another example of all the Halpens and Pagets in the Sweny, Cooke and other related families.
WHPS preferred to spell it 'Halpin'. Must have done well, as he left an estate of £32,804 !
His son was Noel Frederic Carl Halpin Sweny 1901-1977.
Title: Re: Mark Halpen (1)
Post by: kenneth cooke on Saturday 16 March 13 00:16 GMT (UK)
The C.V. for Mark Halpen (1) which I posted, No.284 on 1 March, has several gaps. One is from 1714, when he was an apothecary’s mate at Dunkirk, to 1730, when he married Lady Lawley in London.   

I have found baptism records of five children to a Mark and Catherine Halpenn in London:
Mary 1719 at St. Martin in the Fields, and Grace 1721, Morrice 1723, Mary 1725, and Nicholas 1726, all at St. James, Westminster. So, they were residents of St. James parish between 1721 and 1726. (n.b. Nicholas was also the name of our Mark’s father)

From ‘Survey of London Vol.31 & 32, St. James Westminster Part 2’  F H W Sheppard (gen. editor) 1963:
Great Pulteney St., Westminster, St. James, was laid out during the redevelopment of the Pulteney estate in the early 18th century. Between 20.3.1719 and 27.8.1722, Sir William Pulteney granted 38 leases, all due to expire around 1780, to 20 odd lessees, most of whom were building craftsmen, from whom tenants rented.
 
No. 40 Great Pulteney St. East side:
Lease: 60 years from Xmas 1718, dated 15.9.1719, Frontage 19 ft., £5 p.a., Lessee Wm.Ludby, citizen & carpenter of St. James. First occupant- Mark Alpen or Halpenn, period of residence 1720-1728.

These two records seem to be connected, and it is most likely the same Mark in both of them. But there is nothing to indicate that he was Irish or an apothecary. What is certain is that these residences were up-market at the time, so he was obviously well off.
But if this is our Mark, one problem that arises is- what happened to his first family when he married Lady Lawley in 1730 ?
 
A Mrs. Halpen (non-conformist) was buried on 6.11.1727 at Bunhill Fields, London.
A Catherine Halfpenny was buried 11.12.1760, Westminster, Middlesex.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 16 March 13 12:04 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 16 March 13 12:06 GMT (UK)
Part 1.

The circumstantial evidence connecting your ancestors to the Portarlington Halpins is looking stronger every day, Ken.  I've said in private correspondence to other rootschat contributors that politics and patronage are (or were) the key to the Halpin tale.  I've had a good look at dozens of documents held at the Registry of Deeds here in Dublin, and many of them detail complex real estate deals between George Halpin, Richard Halpin, and John Beresford's extended family.* Most of those transactions involved large applotments along the length of Mecklenburgh Street (now Railway Street) before, during and immediately after the Act of Union in 1800 .  As you've mentioned in some of your posts above, a few of Mark Halpin's descendants ended up living in and running businesses from addresses in Mecklenburgh Street.  And while I've yet to confirm this, I suspect those houses and business premises were leased from George. 

Just to be clear: the George I'm referring to here is George Halpin Snr, Lighthouse builder and Civil Engineer.  At the time of the Young Ireland rebellion in 1848, the Reverend Nicholas John Halpin* was living at an address in Seville Place, which he leased from George Halpin.  It's my view that both men were moderately important members of the embattled colonial administration that ran Ireland in the first half of the 19th century.  By helping to build Ireland's colonial infrastructure, George Halpin was helping to secure the colony for the British Crown.  The Reverend N J Halpin's role was essentially the same.  Samuel Ferguson* and John Anster* were personal friends of the Reverend and sat on the editorial board of the Dublin University Magazine, founded in 1833 to counteract the spirit of reform that had led to Catholic Emancipation in 1828.  In the words of one commentator at the time, the DUM strove to 'beat back the forces of emancipation and democracy'.  This is also what the Dublin Evening Mail sought to do - it was a reactionary publication opposed to further concessions to Catholics.  It galvanised Protestant opinion in Ireland, reminded London of the loyal administrative role it played in protecting British interests, and expected that loyalty to be reciprocated.  For the most part, and in spite of occasional reservations, London remained dutifully loyal until Gladstone assumed office in the late 1860s.  So, while the Reverend lived at a property leased to him by George Halpin, it's probably fair to say that both men shared very similar political views.  They were part of a belligerant anti-Catholic generation of Anglo-Irishmen who - with few exceptions (Dr Charles Halpin being a case in point) - blindly supported the social and economic policies that exacerbated the effect of the potato famine and contributed to the deaths of a million Irish Catholics and the immediate emigration of millions more.

Prior to 1922, Ireland was a colonized state.  The Anglo-Irish community, to which George and the Rev N J Halpin belonged, had effectively dispossessed Ireland's indigenous people of their land and wealth.  They then worked in tandem with Dublin Castle and the British government to establish a form of apartheid that allowed them to seize for themselves and their descendants a disproportionate amount of Ireland's future wealth at the expense of the Catholic population.  The success of that racket depended ultimately on force, but its day-to-day administration hinged on commercial alliances, political patronage and family connections.  When we see so many Halpins availing of addresses on Mecklenburgh Street and in Seville Place, addresses which were also predominantly leased by Halpins, I believe we're looking at a manifestation of the colonial habit of 'keeping it within the family'.  I'll have much more to say on this matter at a later date, but in the meantime we might want to keep in mind the ugly bigotries that characterised the attitudes of British colonists towards subject races.  It's a matter we're going to have to address sooner or later.  In fact, in regard to Dr Stopford Halpin (Captain Robert C Halpin's brother), it's a subject we simply can't avoid, particularly in relation to an incident that took place in Arklow in the winter of 1880, when Stopford's actions as the town's Sanitation Officer - actions motivated by a distinctly repellent form of racist spite - provoked hundreds of starving Catholics to riot. 

George Halpin secured his place in 19th century Irish society by working extremely hard at the opportunities created for him by his patrons the Beresfords.  What was true for the Halpins in the 19th century was certainly true for them in the 18th century as well.  It might be worth your while looking into the background of Sir William Pulteney, Ken.  He may have had some interesting connections to Ireland which could shed light on how the Halpins gained a foothold in this country.



Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Saturday 16 March 13 12:09 GMT (UK)
Part 2.

The dramatic arc of the Halpin tale extends from the colonisation of the island of Ireland, right the way through the most dramatic events of Irish history, to the end of British rule in 1922.  There are Halpins involved at every important juncture along the way, from the rebellion in 1798, through to the Act of Union (1800), the Second Reformation (mid to late 1820s), the Great Famine and, ultimately, the Great War and the Easter Rebellion in 1916, when William Robert Halpin, along with two dozen members of the Irish Citizen Army under the command of Captain Sean Connolly, stormed the gates of Dublin Castle and occupied City Hall.  Yeats described the 'terrible beauty' of that event, and there's a kind of terrible beauty to the Halpin tale as a whole, in that is includes good deeds and bad, heroes and villains, and a great deal more than we've seen so far.

By the way, William Robert Halpin (1886 - 1951) was my grandfather's brother.  He was the grandson of Wicklow's Liberal Town Clerk and Post Master, Robert Wellington Halpin (1815 - 1883), and the eldest surviving son of Edwin Francis Halpin (1855 - 1924).  Most of my research over the past two years has been focused on these three men.  In a sense, their lives neatly summarise the tremendous struggle that took place in Ireland before the Rising, between the liberalising forces of reform and the illiberal forces of oppression and colonialism.  You might say that my family - the Main-Street Halpins - were political and social liberalisers and the Bridge-Inn Halpins (Captain R C Halpin's mob) were not. 

R W Halpin was, as I've said elsewhere, a faithful Protestant, a Liberal party supporter and a free marketeer.  E F Halpin was an atheist and a Socialist; he believed in forcing constitutional change through trade union activism and was fiercely opposed to the physical force tradition in Irish politics.  Edwin's son, William R Halpin, was a Catholic and a Nationalist.  During the War of Independence (1919 - 1922) William 'and his brother' were heavily involved in a bombing campaign in the Eastwall area of North Dublin that killed and injured many innocent bystanders and civilians.  In one such incident in 1921, a ten year old boy by the name of Patrick* Hanratty of Moy Elta Road, Eastwall, was killed and another fourteen people were injured, resulting in bitter arguments between Edwin and Willy over the moral legitimacy of political violence.
Details corrected 22nd March 2013 : The boy's death certificate has been purchased and discovered that his actual name was "Andrew Hanratty"

The tragic trajectory of this story, which took place within three generations of the one family, saw the Main-Street Halpins change from peaceable Liberal reformers to murderous Nationalist terrorists, and indicates what can happen to otherwise law-abiding people when reasonable claims for reform and political independence are denied for too long.

More to come on all of these matters in the weeks and months ahead.

*John Beresford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Beresford_(statesman)

*The Rev N J Halpin, born in Portarlington in 1790, edited the Dublin Evening Mail from 1837 onwards (during the height of Daniel O'Connell's Repeal campaign).

*Samuel Ferguson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Ferguson

*John Anster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Anster
Title: Re: Mark Halpenn in London
Post by: kenneth cooke on Sunday 17 March 13 05:41 GMT (UK)
Just a few new items re my post 293 above.
A Mark Halpenn married Katherine Cox in 1718 - from Boyd’s Marriage Index (Mar.Licenses) Dioceses of England & Wales 1538-1840. Lic. date 21.5.1718.
 
Bapt. 1726 St James W’minster- Thomas Ollet, father- Mark Halpenn, mother- Hannah Ollet. From 'England Births & Christenings 1538-1975' (familysearch)



Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Thursday 21 March 13 23:08 GMT (UK)
More on William Halpin, Pay Master.

See Reply #272 Mon 18 Feb 2013.  After William presented his letters of recommendation to the authorities at Dublin Castle, the Lord Lieutenant or his Secretary scribbled their replies onto the front of the same letter and handed it back to Captain Halpin when he called again a week or two later.  These replies were written hurridly and are sometimes very hard to decipher.  In some places the writing is illegible, but find below my best attempts at transcription (with help from a number of visiting genealogists at the National Archives).

CSO/RP/1819/451/2

5 June 1818.
The Duke of C
recommending Cpt H
for some employment [tenable?]
with his half-pay [?].

Dublin Castle
June 25 1818

Mr Peel [?] his humble duty to HRH the Duke of C [?] I have had the honour of receiving a letter from HRH in behalf of Cpt. Halpin which Mr. P has not failed to submit to the Lord Lt.

Mr. Peel is [?] by his [?] to acquaint the Duke of C. that it would give him great pleasure to have it in his power to comply with HRH's wishes in favour of Cpt. H and has taken a Memorandum of that Gentleman's name.  The Lord Lt. feels himself bound however to state to HRH that in consequence of the [recent?] reductions which have taken place in every Dept. of the State in this Country, the Patronage of the Gov. has been very much curtailed, and His Excellency cannot but fear that some time must elapse before an opportunity of providing for Cpt. H will present itself.

The abbreviations in the above text are as they appear in the original - as a kind of shorthand, I suppose.  Hundreds of letters just like Captain Halpin's must have crossed the Lord Lieutenant's desk every week after the Napoleonic wars ended.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: Shanachai on Friday 22 March 13 00:25 GMT (UK)
See Reply #273 Mon 18 Feb 2013 for the second of the Duke of Cambridge's letters written to Dublin Castle on behalf of Captain Halpin.  Once again, the Castle's response was written on the front of the original:

CSO/RP/1819/451/1/A

Duke of Cambridge
in Captain Halpin's favour.

Dublin Castle
5 Nov 1819

Sir,
Your Royal Highness has been pleased to honour me with a letter respecting Cpt. Halpin, which I have lost no time in bringing under the consideration of the Lord Lieutenant.  His Excellency directs me to convey to your RH the [feelings?] with which he receives this expression of interest in Cpt. Halpin, whose name was last year placed by His Excellency's desire in consequence of a Commission from Your RH on the List of Candidates for Office.  The Lord Lieutenant at the same time thinks it incumbent on him to represent to Your RH that very General and Extensive reductions have taken place and are still in progress in every public Department in this Country, and meritorious Officers, both in Civil and Military Capacities, are every day dismissed from service, and that consequently while the number of claimants on the [patronage?] of the Government is continually multiplied, the means of meeting their demands are in the same proportion continually diminished.  Under these circumstances His Excellency trusts that Your RH will not be disappointed if he should not be able to find an early [opportunity?] of carrying Your RH's wishes into effect; an object, however, which His Excellency repeats it will give him sincere pleasure to accomplish.

I have the Honour...


While I can't be certain of this, I don't believe that Captain Halpin ever received another commission from the Government, or if he did, it wasn't a lengthy or particularly remunerative one.  I have in my possession a number of deeds which clearly demonstrate the extent to which Captain Halpin was dependent on rental income received from the land he had in his possession.  Much of that land ran adjacent to the quays immediately east/north east of Custom House, where George Halpin and Leland Crosthwaite also had land.  Those deeds are hard to transcribe, but I've completed almost all of them except (of course) for the most important one, which details the Bankruptcy of Captain Halpin in the mid to late 1830s (possibly extending into the early 1840s), and actually mentions which of his possessions he is allowed to keep, all others probably being sold off to pay the Captain's creditors.  In this particular deed the Captain's 'instruments of trade' are mentioned, but the actual word identifying those instruments is indecipherable, which is very frustrating as it would be interesting to know exactly what the Captain did to earn a living after the Duke's recommendations failed to win him a government commission.  Two duty clerks have tried to help me with the transcription of this document, one of whom was actually trained for the task, but both gave up defeated, describing the writing as 'the worst' they'd ever seen (it's not the worst I've come across up there).  They recommend I purchase a copy of the original, which I'm not allowed access to (the deeds in the registers are only rough handwritten duplicates of the originals). 
Until I exhaust all options and complete all transcriptions I won't post any of the deeds relating to the Captain's activities.  Another week or two should do it.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Wednesday 27 March 13 04:47 GMT (UK)
Just sorting out a few bits & pieces. I’m sure other contributors have come across the names ‘Halpern’ and ‘Halperin’ when searching for Halpin or Halpen. (The maiden name of a friend’s mother was ‘Halpern’. She was from Poland.) These are Jewish names, and are believed to come from ‘Heilbrunn’, Germany, from the Middle Ages. One family of Halperns who migrated to England changed their name to ‘Hallywell’ (‘Holy well’ which is what  ‘heilbrunn’ means).
I see that some American Halperns now call themselves ‘Halpen’, which, together with ‘McAlpin’ and ‘Halfpenny’ tends to confuse the issue.

Re Paget and Philip Halpen, engravers of Dublin- are they in fact one and the same person ?
They don’t seem to have been active at the same time, and there’s not much about Philip before or after his brief appearance on the engraving scene. Perhaps Paget liked to call himself Philip (to confuse the authorities ?)

Re Post 286- Boys Smith, surgeon, (Paget’s partner in the stamp scam ?) seems to have been a neighbour, Dr. Boyce Smith, of Maryborough, whose estate was mentioned in the land sales of 1856.

Re Post 275 (Bigbird)- The address of Mrs. Margaret (Delane) Halpin in 1819  was probably
Aungier St. Dublin.

I’m still worried about Paget, aged 17 or 18, being a ‘freeholder’ and eligible to vote in the M’borough election of 1760. Could he have been older when he joined the army ?

Lastly, does anyone know whether Hamstead and Hampstead are the same place or not ?
I only found Hampstead, I think it’s near Drumcondra.
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc., Continued
Post by: kenneth cooke on Sunday 31 March 13 04:11 BST (UK)
From ‘The Statutes at Large, passed in the Parliaments held in Ireland... the 19th year of George ll (1745) by James Goddard Butler & Wm. Ball, 1765. 
Re New Turnpike road from Naas, Kildare to Maryborough, Queens County. List of trustees:
The Sovereign of Kildare for the time being, the burgo master of Maryborough for the time being....
....James Stopford Esq.,..... Werner Westenra Esq., Thomas Parnel Esq., ... Marks Halpen (sic), gentleman, etc. etc. (There were dozens of names, I have included a few relevant ones only)
... and that the said trustees... shall be severally invested with all the powers and authorities....
to erect turnpikes and to receive tolls, and to appoint & remove collectors, overseers etc.
Tolls:  one horse- 3 halfpence;  horse & carriage- from 1 sh. to 2 sh. 6 p.

   
Title: Re: Halpins of Wicklow - Part 3
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 25 April 13 10:42 BST (UK)
300 replies to this part - so a new section started

see : Halpin of Wicklow - Part 4 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,644847.0.html)