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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: Floyd11 on Thursday 16 September 10 06:18 BST (UK)
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Hi!,
Wonder if some kind person can look up;
Lookup Marriage of Robert Fill To Elizabeth Vant 13 October 1829
in OTTERDEN, KENT, ENGLAND.
I am trying to get further back on this family line and would like to know whether the parents are recorded and any other information such as witnesses.
From a Kiwi in Wellington New Zealand in the Shaky Isles
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hi as your not getting any response try this , google kent online parish clerks on there they have the facility to get in touch with individuals who will do lookups for each parish , hope this helps
trevor
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Hi I will be in Canterbury on Monday and can check this out for you
Lis
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Interesting that there is an Elizabeth Vant and Robert Fill on the new familysearch record search both born in Westwell around 1804, will check this out.
Looks like they ran off together!!
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Thank you I will look forward to your reply.
Robert Fill (Agric Labourer) Came from Westwell in Kent.Want to find his family.
Came to New Zealand on The ship Lady Nugent ;
Application made by REVD. JOHN A. ROSS, WESTWELL.
NZ shipping Co applcation no 1999
Lady Nugent. Sailed Gravesend 10th Oct 1840 - arrived Port Nicholson, Wellington, New Zealand 17th March 1841
Robert 36 Ag Labourer,
Elizabeth 30,
Jane 9,
Frances 7,
Sarah Ann 5,
Henry 2,
Elizabeth 10 days
I have included the family they brought with them above.
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IGI has a submitted record of the Marriage and Familysearch Pilot has an extracted.
Not sure if you have these so will post anyhow;
Christenings, FILL with Parents ROBERT and ELIZABETH at Westwell, Kent;
JANE, 13 february 1831
FRANCES, 13 January 1833
HENRY, 03 February 1835
SARAH ANN, 19 November 1837
ELIZABETH, 04 October 1840
These are the possible christenings;
Christening;
Robert FILL, 01 April 1804, Westwell, Kent
Parents DAVID and MARY
Elizabeth VANT, 18 June 1809, Westwell, Kent
Parents HENRY and MARY ANN
Seems consistant with Roberts and Elizabeths ages of Death in NZ.
Do you have their NZ Death Certs?
Trish :)
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I have not got their death Certificates.
Trying to get Robert Fills parents and Elizabeths Parents and their siblings in Westwell, Kent.
Cheers Chris L. Patterson
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Hi Chris ,
Are you in touch with any living Vants in UK ? When I was last at Stalisfield Vants had their own Farm between my Uncles at Derbies Court and my cousins at Green Farm. Stalisfield which borders and is a shared Parish with Otterden .
Rog
PS Looking at the 1841 census for Westwell, it would suggest from the ages shown, that Roberts Parents were David and Sarah Fill Definitely Sarah not Mary on copy of actual Sheet.
Elizabeths Parents Henry and Ann are at Otterden on 1841 .
Which would explain why Marriage was at Otterden.
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Rog
looking at the record search I think you will find that Robert Fill's mother died at his birth and his father married a Sarah can't remember her surname, thats why Sarah is on the 41
Lis
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Hi Lis,
Thanks for clarifying that . I could have caused unnecessary grief there. I only stuck it on at the end as an afterthought ,my mistake!
Cheers Rog
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Excellent, explains why I could only find David and Sarah in 1841 :)
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I must be accurate here, Robert Fill according to the record search was born 1/4/1804 and his mother Mary Fill died 26/4/1804. I have presumed Mary is his mother.
I have not found a record of David Fill marrying a Sarah after 1804, the marriage I was half remembering was to a Sarah Stace in 1791!!
In about 1814 a David Fill marries Ann Parham or Packham.
All this I will check on Monday
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This is going to show the value of checking.
The record search clearly says Robert Fill born to David and Mary 1804
I have BT records for Westwell and this says David and Sarah 5/4/1804
Also John Fill of Westwell left a Will, he died 1802.
So he may be the father of David.
Things are hotting up!!
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The Mid Kent Marriages Index has David FILL marrying Sarah STACE 6th March 1791 at Westwell. They could still be having children in 1804.
Sorry I see you have this already - have only just read your earlier posts. :-\
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Hi!,
Thanyou Team ...absorbing all this information.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers Chris l. Patterson
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Ok, I found the marriage in Otterden and both were illiterate, signed with a cross and witnesses were William Packham and John Clinch.
In the parish records for Westwell Robert is the s/David and Sarah not Mary, as the BTs have, so we know Sarah Stace is Roberts mother.
And I had a look at John Fills Will(which you can order from CCA) says he leaves his son David £130 and his other younger sons John, William and Edward £100 each and his goods and chattels to his son Thomas, also money to his closest friend William Allen of Ashford Glover and fellmonger.
So, Rog you were right with Sarah as the mum!!
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Hi!,
I am not sure if I picked this up correctly but were David and Sarah Fill on the 1841 Census.
Could someone look that up for me and give me the complete details.
I assume they were at Westwell, Kent.
Cheers Chris
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Hi,
Can smebody tell me how to obtain a copy of this will.
Chris
Ok, I found the marriage in Otterden and both were illiterate, signed with a cross and witnesses were William Packham and John Clinch.
In the parish records for Westwell Robert is the s/David and Sarah not Mary, as the BTs have, so we know Sarah Stace is Roberts mother.
And I had a look at John Fills Will(which you can order from CCA) says he leaves his son David £130 and his other younger sons John, William and Edward £100 each and his goods and chattels to his son Thomas, also money to his closest friend William Allen of Ashford Glover and fellmonger.
So, Rog you were right with Sarah as the mum!!
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PR32/67/191a John Fill of Westwell
If you ask Canterbury Cathedral Archives http://www.canterbury-cathedral.org/history/archives.aspx for a photo copy they will let you know how much money to send.
Lis