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This family left Midlothian Scotland c 1879 and went to America . I have quite a lot of information on the parents but I would like to get a bit more on their family
David Telfer Allan b 1846 died in Denver c 1915 married a Jessie Barr
William b 1848 died c 1923 Littelton married a Janet Parker
Thomas b 1852 died 1904 La Salle Illinois
Magdalene b 1858 m Donald McVicar died 1941
Alexander Allan b 1862 d La Salle Illinois 1933 married Agnes H Watson
They were all born Newbattle Midlothian.
Thanks
Suzilad
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Hello Suzilad,
The 1900 Census for La Salle Ward 7, LaSalle, Illinois shows Thomas and Alexander together.
Alexander Allen 39 Immigrated 1877. NA Coal-Miner
Agnes Allen 36 Had 6 children and 4 survive. Married 1889
George Allen 10 Born Illinois
Alexander Allen 7 Born Montana
Thomas Allen 5 Born Illinois
Baby Allen 2 Born Illinois
Thomas Allen 48 Brother. Single.Coal-Miner
Alexander married Agnes Hood Watson - 17 Nov 1887 La Salle Congregational Church, La Salle, Illinois by C.C. Warner, County Clergyman.
Eva J Yates Born Mar. 15, 1858 Belvidere Boone County Illinois. - Died Feb. 28, 1923 La Salle County Illinois.
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Looks like Agnes Hood Watson Allan Born Mar. 26, 1863 Ayrshire, Scotland
Died Apr. 6, 1904 Pekin Tazewell County Illinois, USA.
Burial: Lakeside Cemetery Pekin Tazewell County Illinois.
Alexander Allan Born Feb. 22, 1862, Scotland Died Aug. 6, 1933 La Salle La Salle County Illinois.
Details of the graves and burials of Aleaxander, Agnes and the parents David and Elizabeth. Also a second wife of Alexander - called Eva J Yates Allan. Photopgraphs as well
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a91/
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California Death Index shows - George David Allan Born 12 Sep 1888 in La Salle, La Salle, Illinois,. Died 20 Feb 1959 in San Diego, San Diego, California.
Mother's Maiden Name: Watson - Father's Surname: Allan
Also US Veterans Gravesites
George David Allan. Born 12 Sep 1888 Died 20 Feb 1959
Service Start Date: 1 Jun 1916 - Service Info.: SGT US MARINE CORPS
Interment Date: 27 Feb 1959
Cemetery: Ft. Rosecrans National Cemetery -Cemetery Address: P.O. Box 6237 San Diego, CA 92166
Buried At: Section S Site 1718
George married Agnes Thompson or Nan Currie 24 Nov 1921 La Salle, La Salle, Illinois .
California Death Index shows Name: Agnes Thomson Allan -Agnes Thomson Currie Born 1 Sep 1885 Other Country - Died 27 Apr 1946 in San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name: Gold
Father's Surname: Currie
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Hi Sandra,
You are pulling out the all the stops again their father David Allan was the sister of my ggg grandmother.
If you remember a wee while back you found inf. for me on Archibalds well one of them Andrew Archibald married a Janet Allan . Janet is the sister of this family.
Thank you
Suzilad
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Alexander Allan Born 25 Jul 1892 in Sand Coulee, Cascade, Montana Died 21 Nov 1964 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
on the 1920 Census Alexander is married and living in La Salle Ward 6, La Salle, Illinois
Alexander Allan 27 Electrician at Electric Shop
Mary Allan 27 Born England Immigrated 1907. NA
Donald Allan 2 years and 9 months. Born Illinois
Mary Elizabeth Cocking Born 7 March 1892 in New Quay, Cornwall, England married Alexander 23 December 1914 La Salle, La Salle, Illinois by John W. Hackleby, Minister.
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Gosh, your crew are very well travelled.
By the 1930 Census Alexander and Mary are in Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
Alexander Allan 38 Married at 22 years. Owns Home $8500. Electrician. Construction
Mary E Allan 38 Immigrated 1907. NNA
Donald R Allan 13 Born Illinois
Arlene W Allan 8 Born Michigan
Jean A Allan 5 Born Michigan
Donald Ralph Allan Born 12 Mar 1917 in La Salle, La Salle, Illinois Died 3 May 1986
in Grass Lake, Jackson, Michigan.
SSDI Record Donald R Allan Born 12 Mar 1917 - Died 3 May 1986
Residence: Waterloo, Jackson, Michigan - Place of Death: Chelsea, Washtenaw, Michigan
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Thomas Clyde Allan Born 10 Aug 1894 in La Salle, Illinois, - Died 27 Nov 1940 in Dwight, Grundy, Illinois.
1930 Census shows Thomas with wife and child in LaSalle, LaSalle, Illinois
Thomas C Allan 35 Married aged 25 years. Electrician. Electric Shop
Clara M Allan 34 Born Illinois Married at 24 years
Edna A Allan 8 Born Illinois
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Lillian Hood Allen Born 26 Mar 1898 in La Salle, La Salle, Illinois,. Died 29 Sep 1981 in San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California.
1930 Census show Lillian, husband, daughter and her father Alexander in LaSalle, LaSalle, Illinois
Hugh Currie 45 Born Scotland. Married at 35 years. Immigrated 1906. NA Coal-Miner.Owns Home $6500
Lillian Currie 32 Born Illinois. Married at 21 years.
Janice Currie 9
Alexander Allan 68 Widowed. Born Scotland. Retired. Immigrated 1899. ??? NA
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Magdalena Allan Born Aug 12, 1858 in Scotland Died Dec 6, 1941 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Married Donald McVicar 9 Nov 1882 Morris. Grundy. Illinois.
1900 Census shows the family in Felix, Grundy, Illinois
All children born in Illinois
Donald Mcvicar 44 Born Pennsylvania. Stationary Engineer.
Magdaline Mcvicar 41 Immigration 1879. Had 9 children and 6 survive. Married 1882
John Mcvicar 15 Agnes Mcvicar 13
David Mcvicar 12 Donald Mc Vicar 10
Raymond Mc Vicar 5 Frank Mc Vicar 3
1910 Census shows Magdaline widowed in Chicago Ward 27, Cook, Illinois
Magdalena Mcvicar 50 Widowed. had 11 children and 8 survive. Immigrated 1878.
Raymond Mcvicar 16 Special Messenger. Post Office.
Frank Mcvicar 13
Allen Mcvicar 8
Erwin Mcvicar 7
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1920 Census Magdaline with just 2 of the childrenChicago Ward 33, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Magdaline Mcvicar 61 Immigrated 1879. NA.
Allan Mcvicar 19 Electrician. Wholesale Grocery
Irwin J Mcvicar 18 Clerk Bank.
1930 Census Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Madeline Mcvicar 72 Widowed. Immigrated 1877. NA
Erwin Mcvicar 28 Book Keeper. Bank.
Sadie Mcvicar 26 Book Keeper. Bank
SSDI Record for Irwin/Erwin
Irwin McVicar Born: 28 Dec 1902 - Died: Jul 1972
Last Residence: 85351 Sun City, Maricopa, Arizona.Born: 28 Dec 1902
SSN was issued in Illinois (Before 1951)
Cook County Death Record for Magdaline
Magdalene Mc Vicar Died 6 Dec 1941 Cook County, Illinnois.
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This is all amazing Sandra I have been looking at the photographs on Find a Grave of my ggg grandmothers brother trying to imagine what she might look like
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Slightly different name for the wife of William ??? William Robert Allan Born 6 Jun 1848 in Dalkeith. Died 22 February 1923 in Littleton, Arapahoe, Colorado. Married Janet Banks Patrick 2nd Sept 1875 Grundy County, Illinois . Janet/Jeanette was Born March 31, 1857 in Frostberg, Allegany County, Maryland - Died December 31, 1917 in Morris, Grundy County, Illinois. (Information came from a source where someone had the marriage certificate)
1900 Census the family are in Morris, Grundy, Illinois
William R Allen 51 Hotel-Keeper. Immigrated 1870 NA
Jennett B Allen 43 Born Maryland. Married 1876. Had 5 children and 5 survive
Thomas A N Allen 23 Machinist
William R Allen 18 Salesman. Dry Goods.
Roy Carson Allen 13
1910 Morris, Grundy, Illinois
William R A Allan 61 Marriage 1. No Occupation
Jennet Allan 53 Married 32 yrs. Had 5 children and 5 survive
Jane Carson 83 Mother-In-Law. Had 4 children and 1 survives.
Sadie T Johnson 19 Servant
1920 Census William is widowed and living in Denver, Denver, Colorado
William D Sapp 42 Born Georgia. District Manager. Automobile
Lillian A Sapp 35 Born Illinois
William D Sapp 10 Born Florida
Allan N Sapp 5 Born Illinois
William R Allen 71 Immigrated 1860
Jessie Hall 40 Friend Born illinois
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There are a number of ancestry family trees and a wealth of photographs of most of these people - quite unbelievable and brilliant to be able to put a face to a name.
Also been able to jog my memory on Janet and Archibald now.
David Telfer Born 15 Sep 1846 in Easthouses, Midlothian, Scotland Died bef 4 May 1915 in Denver, Colorado. Married to Jesse/Jeanette Barr about 1871. Jesse died 1897. David then married Isabella Fergusson in 1896. Isabella born 28 Jul 1858
in Saratoga Twp., Grundy, Illinois.
1880 Census David and 1st wife in Morris, Grundy, Illinois.
David Allen 29 Coal-Digger. - Jesse Allen 27
Elizabeth Allen 7 David Allen 5 Thomas Allen 3 Willie Allen 1
1900 Census with new wife living in La Salle Ward 4, LaSalle, Illinois
David T Allen 53 Married 1897. Manager. Coal Mine.
Isabella Allen 41 Had 0 children.
Elizabeth Allen 28 Daughter. Married 5 years. Had 3 children and 3 survive
David Allen 25 Coal Miner
William R Allen 21 Coal Miner
Andrew S Allen 19 Labourer at coal mine
Alexander Allen 16
Jane Allen 14
Robert R Allen 13
Magdeline Allen 10
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1910 Census - Family In North Berthoud, Larimer, Colorado
David F Allan 63 Immigrated 1869. Marriage 2 for 15 years. Proprietor of Hotel
Isabella Allan 52 Marriage 1 for 15 years. Had 0 children. Manager Hotel
Maud Allan 21 Waitress at Hotel
Iva L Kendall 29 Lodger
Anthony J Bell 24 Lodger
Su C Batton 25 Lodger
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Is there a connection to Currie in 2 places here ??? Brother and sister ???
Hugh Currie born 1885 Scotland, son of Hugh Thompson Currie and Agnes Gold
married to Lillian Allan
and Agnes Thompson or Nan Currie who was married to George Allan
Regards
Sandra
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This must be Hugh in California, his wife Lillian died in California(Agnes and George Allan were also in California - Thats right the death record for Agnes in reply 3 gives Mothers Maiden Name as Gold) )
California Death Record
Hugh Currie Born 25 Aug 1883 in Scotland
Died 19 Mar 1965 - San Bernardino
Mother's Maiden Name: Gold
Hugh was naturalized in Illinois 17 Jan 1914
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Sorry Sandra I have cannot help I have no info. on them at all only knew the brothers , sisters B.M.D.
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Removed a 1920 census from reply 1 for Alexander and Effie - that was not the correct one. Thought it strange the immigration date was way out.
Here they are in 1910 La Salle Ward 6, La Salle, Illinois a little jumbled in transcription because it left off Alexander.
Alexander Allan Marriage 2 for 5 years. Coal
Eva Allen 48 Marriage 2 for 5 years. Had 2 children and 0 survive
George D Allen 21 Looks like Mariner - US Maryland
Ethex Allen Jr. (Should read Alex Jnr) 18 Coal Co
Thomas Allen 15 Winder. Coal Co
Lillian Allen 12
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And finally found the 1920 Census - slightly different spelling of Allan
La Salle, La Salle,Illinois
Alec Allen 58 Immigrated 1879 NA 1884. Miner.
Eva J Allen 59 Born Illinois
George D Allen 31 Marine. US Navy.
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Reply 12 lists Thomas Andrew Noble Allan with parents Thomas was born
7 Oct 1876 in Morris, Grundy, Illinois Died 11 Dec 1952 in Joliet, Will, Illinois.
Married Margaret (could be Fergusson)
1920 Census shows Family in Joliet, Will, Illinois
Thomas A Allan 43 Machinist. Steam Railroad.
Margaret E Allan 41Born Illinois
William Allan 18 Clerk in Bank
Kenneth Allan 8
Helen Allan 6
Jean Allan 3 yrs 11 mths.
1930 Census still in Joliet, Will, Illinois
Thomas A Allan 53 Married at 24 years. Machinist. Construction Co
Margaret Allan 51 Married at 22 years
Kenneth Allan 19 Clerk. Department Store
Helen J Allan 16
Maana Allan 14
Martha E Allan 7
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David Alexander Allan son of William Robert and Jeanette Bank Patrick born14 Feb 1879 Morris. grundy. Illinois Married Helen E Hopper.
1910 Census shows the family in Hardin, Hardin, Iowa
David A Allan 31 Marriage 1 for 9 years. Commercial xxxx
Helen E Allan 30 Born Illinois. Had 2 children and 2 survive
Verne C Allan 8
Russel H Allan 7
and 1920 Census in Waterloo Ward 1, Black Hawk, Iowa
David Allan 40 Commercial Travller. Drugs
Helen E Allan 40 Born Illinois
Verne Allan 18 Clerk at Clorhing Store
Russell H Allan 17 No Occupation
1930 Census Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa
David A Allan 51 Married at 21 years. Commercial Salesman. Drugs. Owns Home $7000
Helen E Allan 50 Married at 20 years
Vern C Allan 28 Salesman Paint
Runel H Allan 27 Salesman Laundry Machinery
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William Raymond Allan Married Anna Bella Hall 9 Nov 1904 Chicago Cook Illinois
1910 Census with Wife and Family in Morris, Grundy, Illinois
William R Allan Jr. 28 Merchant Grocery Retail. Married 5 years
Anna B Allan 27 Marriage 1 for 5 years. had 2 children and 2 survive
Francis H Allan 4 Born Illinois
Thomas C Allan 2 Born Illinois
Jessie Hall 30 Sister-In-Law. Born Illinois
Edith Hall 24 Sister-In-Law. Born Illlinois
Olive Walker 27 Servant
1930 Census Morris, Grundy, Illinois
William Allan 48 Owns Home $8000. Married at 23 years. Agent. Ins. Co
Anna Allan 47 Married at 22 years.
Cook County Death Record shows William Allan
Died 25 Jan 1965 - Cook County, Illinois
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This is the last of the children for William Robert Allan and Jeanetta. Lillian appeared earlier married to a Sapp.
Roy Carson Allan Born Jun. 28, 1881 Crescent City. Iroquois County. Illinois. - Died March 1963 Sarasota Sarasota County Florida.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9e/
1910 Roy was with USS Goldsborough, Us Navy, Military and Naval Forces.
1920 Married to Clara M Kutz
Chicago Ward 27, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Roy C Allan 32 Travelling Man
Clara Allan 33 Born Illinois
Roy C Allan 2 years and 1 month. Born Illinois
1930 Queens, Queens, New York
Roy C Allan 42 Married at 25 years. Salesman. Automobiles.
Clara K Allan 42 Married at 27 years
Roy C Allan 12
Roy died in Sarasota Florida - March 1963
This site may be of interest - Roy mentioned here, along with other Allan family
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9f/
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The wife of Roy - Clara (in the above post died in 1932)
Roy remarried to Edith Hall (1885 - 1967)
Florida Death Index shows Edith
Edith Hall Allan - Died Apr 1967 Sarasota. Florida
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These are references to the marriages of :-
2663 ALLAN, GEORGE D. CURRIE, AGNES Nov 18, 1921
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Alexander Allan and Mrs Eva Hulbert
7422 ALLAN, ALEXANDER HURLBERT, MRS. EVA J. Jun 08, 1905
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Alexander Allan and Agnes H Watson
3382 ALLAN, ALEX WATSON, AGNES H. Nov 17, 1887
and
12 CURRIE, HUGH ALLEN, LILLIAN H. Dec 10, 1918
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9g/
Also reference to Death Certificate for Eva Hurlbert
8041 Allan, Eva February 28, 1923
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9h/
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Andrew Irvin Allan son of David Telfer Allan and Isabella married Mae Wilberts
Marriage Entry:- 7204 ALLAN, ANDREW WILBERTS, MAE Feb 18, 1905
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9g/
1910 Census shows Andrew & Mae/May in Blue Island Ward 2, Cook, Illinois
Andrew Allan 28 Marriage 1 for 5 years. Brakeman on Railroad.
May Allan 23 Had 3 children and 3 survive
Jessie Kathryn Allan 3 Born Illinois 7 June 1906 Died9 Feb 1995 California. Married to William Dudley. (Death Record Below)
Robert Allan 2 Born Illinois
Iren Allan 4 months. Born Illinois
WW1 Draft Dated Sept 12th 1918 shows Andrew back in Illinois. Working on railroad.
1930 Census Blue Island, Cook, Illinois
Andrew Allan 48 Married at 25 years. Conductor. Steam Railroad.
Mae Allan 44 Married at 21 years.
Jessie Allan 23 Secretary
Robert Allan 22 Steam Railroad.
Atta Allan 18 Daughter
Reta Allan 16 Daughter
Arden Allan 14 Son
Jean Allan 13 Daughter
Isabel Allan 11 Daughte
Donald Allan 8 years and 5 months Son
Caryle Allan 7 years and 4 months Son
California Death Record for Jesse
Jessie Kathryn Dudley - Jessie Kathryn Allan
Born 7 Jun 1906 Illinois
Died 9 Feb 1995 - Orange. California
Mother's Maiden Name: Wilberts
Father's Surname: Allan
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Slightly mis-transcribed in 1920 Blue Island Ward 3, Cook, Illinois
Aubron Allen 39 Conductor on Railroad.
Maria Allen 33
Jessie Allen 13 Robert Allen 11
Andrew Allen 10 Alta Allen 8
Rita Allen 6 Arden Allen 5
Jean Allen 3 Isabel Allen 2
Marsella Hendley 7 Niece
Mark Hendley 8 Nephew.
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Robert R Allan son of David Telfer Allan and Isbella married to Lucille Loveless
In 1910 Robert is with USS Albany, San Francisco, California, Military and Naval Forces.
In 1920 Washington, Washington, District of Columbia.
Robert R Allan 32 Born Illinois. Could be Foreman ??? Navy Dept
Lucile Allan 24 Born Maryland 1896. No Children
In 1930 Washington, Washington, District of Columbia.
Robert R Allan 44 Clerk Ordinance. Navy-yard
Lucile Allan 34 Stenographer
Sarah Loveless 63 Mother-In-Law. Born Virginia
SSDI Record
Robert R. Allan. Born: 4 Apr 1887 - Died: 15 Jun 1966
Last Residence: 33134 Miami, Miami-Dade, Florida.
SSN was issued in Florida (1962)
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David Telfer Allan 1875 - son of david and Isabella. I can't see any reference to him being married. The 1930 Census for Peru, LaSalle, Illinois shows him as a hospital janitor and single.
Cook County Death Record shows a David T Allan - Died 21 Jan 1949 Cook County, Illinois. So I think that is possible him.
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Hi Sandra,
What can I say but WHOW ! this is amazing all this information I didn't think you would find as much thank you .
Don't think you will find any more surely you must have exhausted all your sources.
Once again many thanks,
Regards,
Suzilad
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Hello Suzilad,
Your very welcome. Pleased to have been able to help in a small way, thoroughly enjoyed it and wish you all the very best with the remainder of your research.
Regards
Sandra ;D
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Found this link which may be of interest on Ancestors and Descendants of David Allan (1813, Newbattle, Midlothian, Scotland--1882, Morris, Grundy County, Illinois)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9r/
and some photographs on this one
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9s/
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Reply 7 - Forgot to put the link for death of Thomas Clyde Allan but just incase you have'nt seen it.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9z/
and the marriage to Clara Duncan
659 ALLAN, THOS. C. DUNCAN, CLARA Sep 27, 1919
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And the 1920 for Thomas and Clara.
La Salle Ward 6, La Salle, Illinois
Margaret Duncan 63 Born Penn. Widowed.
Robert P Duncan 37 Born Illinois. House Carpenter.
Jesee Duncan 26 Born illinois. Packer. Clock Worker.
Thomas Allen 26 Son-In-Law. Electrician. Electric Shop.
Clara M Allen 24 Born Illinois.
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Daughter of Thomas and Clara.
Edna Agnes Allan Born 6 Jan 1922 in La Salle, La Salle, Illinois. Died 27 May 1977 in Huntington Beach, Orange, California.
and Mum Clara Margaret Duncan Birth 7 Jun 1896 in Mt. Olive, Macoupin, Illinois Died 13 Nov 1981 in Huntington Beach, Orange, California
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Hi Suzilad,
Small snippet - reply 5 and 6 had Alexander Allan and Mary Cocking.
SSDI Record - Mary Allan. Born: 7 Mar 1892 and Died: Apr 1974
Last Residence: 48124 Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan.
SSN issued: Michigan (1973)
and - Alex Allan. Born 25 July 1892 Died November 1964 - Last Residence: Michigan
SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)
Regards
Sandra