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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: Reyz on Thursday 04 November 10 21:32 GMT (UK)
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Hello, apologies this is long winded
1851 - 1871 Census Merthyr Tydfil : Ann LONG born c1833 in Merthyr Tydfil is living with or next door to her sister Eliza JONES nee LONG born 1837 Merthyr Tydfil. Parents Henry and Margaret LONG both d1848.
(1841 Census never found, old post details at end).
1881 Census : Eliza JONES 46 is at 8 High Germany - she is sharing a house with an Ann ‘ HILLY’ (HEALEY) but checked and pretty sure it is not her sister Ann LONG.
** Next door is a John LONG 22 = Hannah nee Collins?
No sign of sister Ann LONG..
Only thing I could find for Ann LONG :
Death 1881 March qt - Ann LONG aged 43 - age a bit out but as her age varies sent for Certificate anyway .. Arrived today :
Ann LONG 43 Widow Found in doorway in Lower Merthyr Tydfil, died of exposure to frost and cold outside, Lower Merthyr Tydfil. :(
Informant the Coroner and an Inquest..
Undecided if it is my Ann or not ?? Not a Widow as far as I know and wrong part of Town?
1861 Census : there is a Ann LONG that could fit the one from death certificate.
Married to Patrick LONG 1833 Waterford Ireland and Son John LONG 1879 MT **
I can’t find any sign of the parents after 1871, however but their son John ** appears to be living
Next door to my Ann LONGs sister, Eliza JONES in 1881 Census .. Coincidence?
Not sure whether to take a risk and try and obtain the Coroner’s Report? Or am I missing something obvious?
Any thoughts would be welcome, thank you.
Previous post about Eliza and Ann in 1841.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340503.msg2242554.html#msg2242554
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if you could get access to a local newspaper around the date of the inquest, you may get more info about her background than from the coroner's report.
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Hi Opsprey
Will try that, thank you!
Reyz
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Hi There,
Did your Ann LOng marry.???
There are Ann Long Marriages on FreeBMD around 1857 and 1867 in M. Tydfil
The date of Ann Long Christening is 13th December 1835 Merthyr Tydfil
Daughter of Margaret and Henry Long
Cheers
Heddwch
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Hi Heddwch
Do not think so, as Ann was single on the 1861 and 1871 Census....
But who knows with my family ..
Thank you :) for your input
best wishes
Reyz
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Hello, apologies this is long winded
1851 - 1871 Census Merthyr Tydfil : Ann LONG born c1833 in Merthyr Tydfil is living with or next door to her sister Eliza JONES nee LONG born 1837 Merthyr Tydfil. Parents Henry and Margaret LONG both d1848.
(1841 Census never found, old post details at end).
1881 Census : Eliza JONES 46 is at 8 High Germany - she is sharing a house with an Ann ‘ HILLY’ (HEALEY) but checked and pretty sure it is not her sister Ann LONG.
** Next door is a John LONG 22 = Hannah nee Collins?
No sign of sister Ann LONG..
Only thing I could find for Ann LONG :
Death 1881 March qt - Ann LONG aged 43 - age a bit out but as her age varies sent for Certificate anyway .. Arrived today :
Ann LONG 43 Widow Found in doorway in Lower Merthyr Tydfil, died of exposure to frost and cold outside, Lower Merthyr Tydfil. :(
Informant the Coroner and an Inquest..
Undecided if it is my Ann or not ?? Not a Widow as far as I know and wrong part of Town?
1861 Census : there is a Ann LONG that could fit the one from death certificate.
Married to Patrick LONG 1833 Waterford Ireland and Son John LONG 1879 MT **
I can’t find any sign of the parents after 1871, however but their son John ** appears to be living
Next door to my Ann LONGs sister, Eliza JONES in 1881 Census .. Coincidence?
Not sure whether to take a risk and try and obtain the Coroner’s Report? Or am I missing something obvious?
Any thoughts would be welcome, thank you.
Previous post about Eliza and Ann in 1841.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340503.msg2242554.html#msg2242554
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You have highlighted previous queries what is it that you need now :-\
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I don't require anything. I have got muddled up with the COMPLETED system.
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Dawnsh explains what to do here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=710853.
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Thank you.
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Report of the inquest of the Ann Long who froze to death
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3512145/3512148/39/
There's an Ann Long of China (area of Merthyr where your Ann & Eliza are in 1861) who appears regularly in the papers for stealing boots, clothes etc. If the same person she;s also described at least once as a sand girl, often as a hawker and also a lanky looking irish woman. She appears to be bc1838 and ends up being sentenced to 7 yrs in 1873
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Thank you Mabel
I have not been on here for a while. I did get the Death Certificate but it did not help as no next of kin or address. Says she was a Widow which does not fit.
Ann's niece was imprisoned for stealing boots as well, though in later years she did turn over a new leaf.
I suspect mine was the Ann Long sentenced to Jail.
Reyz