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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: sallyduk on Thursday 16 December 10 03:00 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm back again with another Will I would like some help with! ;)
Here is the first part....
1. This is the last Will and Testament
2. of me Samuel Hemmings of --- Road? in --- in the County
3. of York?? --- --- --- I appoint my dear wife Rachael?? Hemmings
4. my brother William Hemmings of Tipton? in the County of Stafford
5. and my Nephew --- of Goldsgreen? near West Bromwich? in
6. the County of Stafford to be trustees and executors of this my Will
7. and guardians of my infant children I devise and bequeath unto
8. my trustees all my real and personal estate and effects whatsoever
9. and wheresoever as? to estates vestes in me as trustee or mortgagee
10. upon trust to dispose thereof according to the equities affecting the same
11. respectively And as to estates belonging to me beneficially upon trust to
12. dispose thereof according to the direction? thereinafter containes? that is
13. to say I direct my trustees to permit my said wife Rachael? Hemmings
14. to have the use and enjoyment of my household furniture and effects
15. during? her life in case she shall so long? continue my widow and not
16. marry again and also to pay unto or permit her to receive during
17. the same period the rents? of my real and --- property and the
18. annual income of the residue of my personal property she thereout
19. keeping my real and --- property in good ?able repair in
20. reasonable wear and tear excepted and also insured against damage
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Hi Sally,
here is my effort. It was mostly a matter of removing question marks
because I agreed with you. :)
1. This is the last Will and Testament
2. of me Samuel Hemmings of Cam/Clim(?) Road in Sheffield in the County
3. of York Iron Stock Baker I appoint my dear Wife Rachael Hemmings
4. my Brother William Hemmings of Tipton in the County of Stafford
5. and my Nephew John Binns? of Goldsgreen near West Bromwich in
6. the County of Stafford to be Trustees and Executors of this my Will
7. and Guardians of my infant children I devise and bequeath unto
8. my trustees all my real and Personal Estate and Effects whatsoever
9. and wheresoever As to estates vested in me as trustee or mortgagee
10. upon trust to dispose thereof according to the equities affecting the same
11. respectively And as to estates belonging to me beneficially upon trust to
12. dispose thereof according to the directions hereinafter contained that is
13. to say I direct my trustees to permit my said wife Rachael Hemmings
14. to have the use and enjoyment of my household furniture and effects
15. during her life in case she shall so long continue my Widow and not
16. marry again and also to pay unto or permit her to receive during
17. the same period the rents of my real and leasehold property and the
18. annual income of the residue of my Personal Property she thereout
19. keeping my real and leasehold property in good tenantable repair
20. reasonable wear and tear excepted and also insured against damage
Can't make any sense of his occupation (3)
Think it's Golds Green now if it still exists (5)
There is a Golds Green House, Hill Top Estate West Brom.
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Hi veeblevort
Thanks very much for your help, it's much appreciated.
Samuel's occupation on a couple of the census was down as 'Stocktaker Iron Works' so do you think where you have Baker it could be Taker?
This next part I found a bit more difficult :-\
21. by fire in the names of my trustees in --- amounts as they will?
22. from time to time ?wider --- and also maintaining and duration?
23. my children for the time being? under the age of twenty one years
24. not --- or --- --- --- I direct my trustees to --- an
25. inventory to --- --- or my --- furniture and --- --- the
26. delivery thereof? to my said wife and --- --- of --- inventory to
27. be --- by my said wife of --- --- so --- one shall be
28. --- to her and --- --- --- rest of my other trustees ---
29. my --- trustees at any time or times --- the --- of my said
30. wife if they --- --- it --- to --- all or any part of my real?
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Hi Sally,
Yes, 'Taker' makes a lot more sense. I believe you are right.
It's just like the very first letter of the document, and also matches
the capital 'T' of 'Trustees'.
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Hi Sally,
Here's some more plus an extra line.
I have no confidence in the two words marked with a '?',
although they seem appropriate, I don't see them properly.
21. by fire in the names of my trustees in such amounts as they shall
22. from time to time consider desirable and also maintaining and educating
23. my children for the time being under the age of twenty one years
24. not being or having been married I direct my trustees to cause an
25. inventory to be taken of my household furniture and effects before the
26. delivery thereo[f] to my said wife and two copies of such inventory to
27. be signed by my said Wife Rachael? copies so signed one shall be
28. delivered to her and one other be kept by my other trustees i authorise
29. my chosen? trustees at any time or times during the life of my said
30. wife if they shall deem it desirable to sell all or any part of my real
31. and personal property and household furniture and effects and I direct
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Hi veeblevort
Thanks very much for your help with the 2nd part. I'm too not sure if Rachael is correct on line 27, at first I thought it looked like solicitor but doesn't the last 4 letters look like 'iter'?
Here is my attempt at part 3 but I must admit I'm struggling again! - thanks for doing line 31 :-)
31. and personal property and household furniture and effects and I direct
32. that after the death or next marriage of my said wife whichever shall
33. --- happen my trustees shall --- my --- and household property
34. and household furniture and effects --- for the purposes --- &
35. --- that they shall have a power of --- --- over all or
36. any --- from time to time --- --- the trusts of this my
37. Will without the --- of any other person --- --- --- that in
38. --- my said wife shall --- again my trustees shall --- and
39. after her next marriage invest --- --- --- of the --- ----
40. --- estates and effects --- to the --- for investment hereinafter
41. contained and shall pay the annual income of –-- part only and of
42. --- --- funds and --- where? the same shall be invested into
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37. will without the consent of any other person and or dir[ecti]on? that in
38. case my said wife shall marri again my trustees shall reviu?(review) and
39. after her next marriage invest out of this part of the net proceeds &
40. in estates and _____pursuant to the chanse? for investment hereinafter
41. contained and shall pay the annual income of such part only and of
42. the _____ funds and securities whereon the same shall be invested into
My 33-36 attempt has stumbled on the same words as you have!
Note the above question marks in lines 37, 38 & 40
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Is the missing word in line 42 'stocks'??
the stocks funds and securities whereon the same shall be invested into
??
Also, should not line 39 read
after her next marriage shall invest one third part of the net proceeds
Jennifer
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Hi Sally,
Here you go.
32. that after the death or next marriage of my said Wife whichever shall
33. first happen my trustees shall sell my real and household property
34. and household furniture and effects And for the purposes aforesaid I
35. declare that they shall have a power of fair governing over all or
36. any hereditaments from time to time subject to the trusts of this my
37. Will without the consent of any other person And I direct that in
38. case my said Wife shall marry again my trustees shall from and
39. after her next[interlined] marriage invest one third part of the net proceeds of
40. my estates and effects pursuant to the clause for investment hereinafter
41. contained and shall pay the annual income of such part only and of
42. the stocks funds and securities whereon the same shall be invested into
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Hephzibah, Jennifer & veeblevort
Thank you all for your help, much appreciated.
I will post part 4 shortly
Thanks again :)
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Wonderful Jen B & veeblevort. It now looks so clear -my computer doesn't do the icons but if it did it would be the 10th from left santa!
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Here is part 4 ;)
43. the proper hands of my said wife when and as the same shall
44. --- --- and not by way of anticipation for her sole and ---
45. use free from --- --- and for the same her receipts and
46. others shall notwithstand --- or sufficient --- to
47. my trustees --- that support as hereinbefore is expressed my
48. trustee shall hand --- of the net proceeds of all my estates
49. and effects In trust for my child? if only one or all my children
50. equally if more than one --- --- a son or sons --- attain
51. the age of twenty one years or being a daughter or daughters
52. shall attain that age or marry with the --- of her or their
53. guardians I direct that all capital moneys from time to time in the
54. hands of my trustees pursuant to this my Will not immediately
55. --- pursuant to the ultimate direction hereinbefore contained
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Hi Sally,
Gaps are filled in in red.
Blue represents words which do not agree with yours.
43. the proper hands of my said Wife when and as the same shall
44 become due and not by way of anticipation for her sole and separate
45. use free from marital control and for the same her receipts and no
46. others shall notwithstanding coverture be sufficient discharges to
47. my trustees I direct that subject as hereinbefore is expressed my
48. trustee shall stand possessed of the net proceeds of all my estates
49. and effects In trust for my child if only one or all my children
50. equally if more than one who being a son or sons shall attain
51. the age of twenty one years or being a daughter or daughters
52. shall attain that age or marry with the consent of her or their
53. guardians I direct that all capital moneys from time to time in the
54. hands of my trustees pursuant to this my Will not immediately
55. divisible pursuant to the ultimate direction hereinbefore contained
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veeblevort
Thanks again for your help, I agree to all your words :)
A few more words on part five please ;)
56. shall be invested in the names of my trustees in or upon come
57. the public stocks funds or securities of the United Kingdom or on
58. mortgage of freehold copyhold or leasehold property in England or Wales
59. and not --- or on the ?turer --- of same outfit Railway
60. company in England at the times of the investments thereon paying
61. dividends And that my trustees shall have power in their direction
62. to vary such investments for any other investment or investments of the
63. description specified in this clause I direct that the provision hereby
64. made for my said wife is in satisfaction of the --- and thirds if
65. any to --- she shall be entitled? out of any real estate of mine And
66. I revoke all other Wills In Witness whereof I the said Samuel Hemmings
67. the testator have to this my last Will and Testament contained in or
68. written upon this And the preceding --- of paper signed by me set my
69. hand this thirteenth day of November one thousand eight hundred
70. and sixty five – Samuel Hemmings Signed by the
71. said testator Samuel Hemmings as and for this last Will and
72. Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who at
73. his request in his presence and in the presence of each other have
74. hereunto subscribed our names as Witnesses --- Thomas?
75. Solicitor Sheffield - John Cliff? his clerk -
76. Proved at London 20th December 1867 by the --- of William Hemmings
77. the Brother and John Binns the Nephew two of the executors to whom admon
78. was granted power reserved? of making the life grant to Rachael Hemmings
79. Widow the Relict the older executor.
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59. ________ debentures of some public Railway
64 ________
65. which she shall be entitled
68. sheet
74. Arthur Thomas
75. John Cliff?
76. oaths
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Thanks Hephzibah, now the words are pointed out I can see them ;)
Do you think the missing word on line 64 could be 'dower'?
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Hey Sally,
You're really getting your eye in now and not leaving us much to do!
I see everyone has beaten me to it, but here is my effort.
Red and blue as before.
56. shall be invested in the names of my trustees in or upon some of
57. the public stocks funds or securities of the United Kingdom or on
58. mortgage of freehold copyhold or leasehold property in England or Wales
59. and not elsewhere or on the Debentures of some public Railway
60. company in England at the times of the investments thereon paying
61. dividends And that my trustees shall have power in their discretion
62. to vary such investments for any other investment or investments of the
63. description specified in this clause I direct that the provision hereby
64. made for my said wife is in satisfaction of the dower and thirds if
65. any to which she shall be entitled out of any real estate of mine And
66. I revoke all other Wills In Witness whereof I the said Samuel Hemmings
67. the Testator have to this my last Will and Testament contained in or
68. written upon this And the preceding sheet of paper signed by me set my
69. hand this thirteenth day of November one thousand eight hundred
70. and sixty five - Samuel Hemmings Signed by the
71. said testator Samuel Hemmings as and for his last Will and
72. Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who at
73. his request in his presence and in the presence of each other have
74. hereunto subscribed our names as Witnesses Arthur Thomas
75. Solicitor Sheffield - John Cliff his Clerk -
76. Proved at London 20th December 1867 by the Oaths of William Hemmings
77. the Brother and John Binns the Nephew two of the executors to whom admon
78. was granted power reserved of making the life grant to Rachael Hemmings
79. Widow the Relict the other executor.
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Hi veeblevort
Thanks again for your help - the blue & red makes it easier for me, thanks.
Sorry I'm not leaving you as much to do - I'll make sure my next one is a little more difficult ;)
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Not too difficult though please. :)