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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: 2Harriet on Thursday 30 December 10 19:15 GMT (UK)
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Hi folks,
I am almost certain these were taken somewhere in Carlisle but where / when? Anyone got any ideas ? They have just a plain postcard back to them and no way to identify anything apart from whts in the picture.
Seasons greetings y'all !!
June
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Seeing women doing labouring jobs suggests it may have been wartime.
My first thought was that the structure in the background may have been a gasometer. My second thought was that perhaps they wouldn't have been that big in those days. :-\ Gasometers, not women.
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Hi Geoff,
ref the seasonal greetings card....when you say wartime [excuse my ignorance ] do you mean ww1 ? I wondered if it was some kind of gasworks or a factory as that looks like coal/ anthracite they are shovelling.
June
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The car in Pic.2 looks more WW1 than WW2 doesn't it? I don't suppose you can make out its registration number on the original, can you?
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Sorry cannot see reg no of car. so we r saying ww2 then for it?
I wondered if there was an ironworks or something and found there was a world famous crane/ railway goods maker Cowans Sheldon in Carlisle and wondered if that might be a possibility for the seasonal shovellers pic? I will try to add another photo here , also Carlisle, and suspect it may be connected to seasonal shovellers?
June
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Geoff, either WW, it would have been before North Sea Gas and "town gas" as it was called was made from coal. Also WW1 would be before large scale electricity so more gas would have been in use for domestic and street lighting. Ergo gasometers could have been bigger then. :-\ bob
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The second photo of the people dressed up and the car certainly looks like it is outside the Infirmary Hospital, cause that has huge pillars outside its front doors and in the background it looks like the Castle keep
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I thought that the second picture may have been near the infirmary, but now I think it may have been taken outside Carrs Biscuits. I can remember seeing an old photo of a different entrance to the factory and it was set further back from the current road. Also you can see the castle keep from outside the factory.
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hi, june, sorry its a late reply but i just seen the mail. its the old gas storage tanks at bousteads grassing, now near the recycling yard, steel skeleton still there, i lived down the road in the 60s. the girls are stokers for making coal gas as the men were away at war,, my dad used to get the liquid tar, they used to call it spivvey? from there to paint sheds etc, it cost pennies! i am 99% sure its at least the the later end of the 1st world war could be the 1922 strike as women workers were olso used then? but may be later...rob ..g
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Can somebody clever check an old theme on Water street as I'm sure we uncovered that the original gasworks were somewhere up near the viaduct. What I can't remember (it's the old age you know) is when they moved to Rome St (sorry Bousteads).
bob
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Apparently, the original (1819) gasworks were on Collier Lane.
The 1849 works was at Nelson Bridge car park http://tinyurl.com/6akmsxa
They moved to Rome St in 1922 according to this http://www.cumbria-industries.org.uk/gasworks.htm
The 1849 works (map) is shown at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html
Search Carlisle then change the coordinates to 340043 555432 and click Go
Then select the 1867-1876 1:2500 map :)
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So if we are in WW1, the gasometers wouldn't have to be the same size as the present ones in Rome St.
bob