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Title: What did a Carter do?
Post by: LesleyAS on Thursday 14 April 05 18:31 BST (UK)
What would someone who was an apprentice carter or Carter do in about 1924 please?

Lesley
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: XPhile2868 on Thursday 14 April 05 18:37 BST (UK)
A carter traditionally trasnported goods. Maybe he/she drove a van or car carrying goods?
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: nineyman on Thursday 14 April 05 18:43 BST (UK)
Traditionally a Carter was a Waggoner, later from the proffesion carrier a Carter was a driver of Waggons usually goods only
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: corkcutter on Saturday 16 April 05 13:08 BST (UK)
There is a very strong chance that he was working as a carter for a railway as he mentions apprenticeship.  Did he live in the vicinity of a large station?  I have quite alot of information about railway horses and the men who worked with them.  Let me know if you are interested.

Corkcutter
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: LesleyAS on Saturday 16 April 05 13:55 BST (UK)
My grandfather lived in Bootle Liverpool and my mother thought he may have worked on the docks. I would be grateful for any information you have.
Thanks

Lesley
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: corkcutter on Saturday 16 April 05 17:03 BST (UK)
Almost certainly a carter at the docks then.  They carried on using the big horses and carts to deliver and collect the merchandise arriving at the docks for many years. 

My pictures are of railway horses etc. but you might like to look at a site about port cities which has all sorts of information about the docks.  If you put "carter" in search it brings up a few photos, letters etc. - (as well as information about people called Carter of course).  Log on to www.mersey-gateway.org/

Happy searching

Corkcutter
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: suey on Saturday 16 April 05 17:26 BST (UK)

Everyone seems to have Lesley's 'Carter' sorted out. 

However I think you do have to look at where the person worked or lived - I have two Carters- they never left the farms they were born on! so mine were Agricultural.
Suey
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: LesleyAS on Saturday 16 April 05 19:55 BST (UK)
Many thanks to you all. Have a lovely picture of what my grandfather might have looked like on the docks now.

Lesley
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: sprintexec on Tuesday 15 April 25 09:35 BST (UK)
I have found an ancestor who in 1939 was shown in the census as being a carter for the County Council. That suggests to me that he had regular work for the County Council since it was specifically mentioned in the census. I'm adding it here as it might help others, by indicating that the job of carter was still in existence in Cornwall in 1939.
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: tornado on Tuesday 15 April 25 11:44 BST (UK)
Ricky tomlinson comic of The Royal Family soap has ancestors who where carters in Liverpool .
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: AlanBoyd on Tuesday 15 April 25 12:10 BST (UK)
Liverpool Echo has some Liverpool-related ‘carter’ images here:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/gallery/carters-9168102 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/gallery/carters-9168102)

WARNING: it’s a newspaper site so it’s full of ads, but it isn’t too bad.
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: AlanBoyd on Tuesday 15 April 25 12:13 BST (UK)
I don’t think this one is in the Liverpool Echo gallery:

 https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/8b/2c/e98b2c1627f4e38fc3d0bccb4c13c2bd.jpg (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/8b/2c/e98b2c1627f4e38fc3d0bccb4c13c2bd.jpg)
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: sprintexec on Tuesday 15 April 25 12:29 BST (UK)
Liverpool Echo has some Liverpool-related ‘carter’ images here:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/gallery/carters-9168102 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/gallery/carters-9168102)

WARNING: it’s a newspaper site so it’s full of ads, but it isn’t too bad.

That's a great gallery of photos Alan - thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: AlanBoyd on Tuesday 15 April 25 12:29 BST (UK)
The image linked in my previous post is of the floating bridge linking the shore to the floating landing stage, at Princes’ Dock. The church in the background is Our Lady and St Nicholas. Here is a map view, if you move the slider (bottom left) you can see where it was in relation to modern Liverpool.

 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.5&lat=53.40653&lon=-2.99807&layers=168&b=osm&o=91 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.5&lat=53.40653&lon=-2.99807&layers=168&b=osm&o=91)
Title: Re: What did a Carter do?
Post by: sprintexec on Tuesday 15 April 25 12:59 BST (UK)
The image linked in my previous post is of the floating bridge linking the shore to the floating landing stage, at Princes’ Dock. The church in the background is Our Lady and St Nicholas. Here is a map view, if you move the slider (bottom left) you can see where it was in relation to modern Liverpool.

 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.5&lat=53.40653&lon=-2.99807&layers=168&b=osm&o=91 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.5&lat=53.40653&lon=-2.99807&layers=168&b=osm&o=91)

Kudos for another great share.

From the Liverpool Echo gallery you sent I went off down a rabbit hole! I have been digging around Stephen Shakeshift's work. What a gift of a job to have in those days - black and white photography and printed news papers to carry your work. Tight deadlines and analogue silver halide film. 

This mapping overlay you have shared is another tool with which I had no familiarity. I've bookmarked it for future use :) 

That floating bridge link must have increased the ability of the dock to work at various states of tide. Thinking of Liverpool Docks reminded me of a fire that became somewhat infamous in Fire Brigade marine firefighting training - the Empress of Canada. Anyway I digress!!