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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: chris23005 on Thursday 10 February 11 07:03 GMT (UK)
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Someone on here posted the website address of a link showing photos of tombstones across the country, but stupidly, I didn't bookmark it at the time. Can anyone remind me of it please?
I am looking for "Haddens" or "Haddons" from Odell, Beds - some of them appear to have been lacemakers (oddly enough, my mother took up lacemaking in her 60's, completely oblivious at the time that her ancestors had done this for a living!)
I have got as far back as George Hadden (b 1804) who married Jane Rodgers. Someone helped me trace back to his mother who was named as Ann Hadden but there seemed to be no evidence of marriage and we are assuming that he was therefore illegitimate. Just wondering if I can find a tombstone for Ann which might help me out!
Many thanks - the tombstone link would help out in all my research actually!
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Hi
I don't know if this is the one you are after :-\ I have not looked to see of it has Odell records.
http://www.gravestonephotos.com/index.php
Rosie
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Thank you thank you thank you!!! That's the one!! I will bookmark it this time as our ancestors appear to be scattered all over the country!
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There's no burial of an Ann Hadden in Odell up to 1851 on the NBI. In fact the only burial of a Hadden in Odell up to that date was Ebenezer age 20 mths on 10 Apr 1851. No sign of a baptism or a marriage for Ann. Perhaps she was from nearby Northants.
George appears to have been non-conformist judging by the baptisms of some of his children at Harrold Independent Church, although he was excluded from the church in 1830 - see the Blars website at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/ . George and Jane appear to have lived in Harrold up to c1843, when they moved to Odell.
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There's no burial of an Ann Hadden in Odell up to 1851 on the NBI. In fact the only burial of a Hadden in Odell up to that date was Ebenezer age 20 mths on 10 Apr 1851. No sign of a baptism or a marriage for Ann. Perhaps she was from nearby Northants.
George appears to have been non-conformist judging by the baptisms of some of his children at Harrold Independent Church, although he was excluded from the church in 1830 - see the Blars website at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/ . George and Jane appear to have lived in Harrold up to c1843, when they moved to Odell.
Thank you for all this information. I clicked on the link to the Blars website but didn't get very far with my searches. however I have just got in from work and am out working again shortly so didn't spend a lot of time on it. Nothing came up under Harrold that I could see but will have another go when I have more time. The banishment from church sounds interesting!
I have no idea where Jane Rodgers was born as I haven't yet found her on a census return, but that is just a matter of time. I already had Ebenezer's approx date of death but finding the tombstone has helped me secure that one. George and Jane's son, Frederick (who apparently was born in Odell), married Catherine Meadows from Great Staughton in Hunts and later moved to Middlesex so it is quite possible that previous Hadden ancestors may have also lived in Hunts at some point too.
Many thanks for all your trouble - that has been extremely helpful.
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In 1851 Jane's birthplace is given as Wollaston, Northants.
The burial details for Ebenezer are taken from the burial register in the parish register, not from a tombstone. Hardly any of my ancestors pre 20th century had headstones, doubtless not being able to afford one. There's also an Ann Haddon age 1 buried at Harrold on 18 March 1840 (she appears in the list of hits below)
There were Haddons in Harrold at an earlier date, as there's an Ann buried there on 3 Sept 1769. You need to check both Harrold and Odell parish registers to see if there's any more detail on the baptism of George and the 1769 burial.
Using the BLARS link just click on Names search and put in Haddon
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In 1851 Jane's birthplace is given as Wollaston, Northants.
The burial details for Ebenezer are taken from the burial register in the parish register, not from a tombstone. Hardly any of my ancestors pre 20th century had headstones, doubtless not being able to afford one. There's also an Ann Haddon age 1 buried at Harrold on 18 March 1840 (she appears in the list of hits below)
Using the BLARS link just click on Names search and put in Haddon
Thanks again - I have just clicked straight through this time. Did exactly the same as before but this time the page looked different so there must have been a problem before as I didn't get any links the first time around and the writing was smaller too. How odd!
Haven't so far got an Ann Haddon born around 1839 in my tree but that is not to say she is not part of them as they seemed to be a very large family. The website looks as if it could be really helpful. Thank you.
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I have just had a "jigsaw puzzle" moment!!! :o
It sounds as if George Haddon was a religious fanatic with possible extreme views. His son was Frederick Haddon who married Catherine Meadows. They had several children and one of them was Elizabeth Hadden (sic) who married Richard Eaton. These last two were my mother's grandparents. My mother wrote down some anecdotes from her childhood and one of these states "I loved my Grandad Eaton, he used to sit me on his knee and sing to me, but I was a bit afraid of my Granny Eaton because she was very strict and had religious texts all over the wall ......"
Goodness, I wish my Mum was still alive so I could tell her ........ :)
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I have got as far back as George Hadden (b 1804) ......... and we are assuming that he was therefore illegitimate.
You were right. From the Odell PR baptisms; 26 Dec 1804 George, illeg son of Ann Haddon, born Nov 21
That's the only Haddon entry in Odell.
From the Harrold PR burials. 3 Sept 1769 Ann Haddon, spinster.
Again, the only Haddon entry in the register
Cheers John
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You wonderful people! You have sorted me out all in the space of a few hours when I have spent months and years trying to track this one down.
Hope there is something I can do to help someone else out. Many thanks everyone!
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I have access to a tree on Genes Reunited that contains George Haddon & wife Jane Rogers who married at Wollaston on 25/11/1824, Jane's place of birth is down as Wollaston. George's mother Ann Hadden is included with a birth circa 1780 but has no further details.
From this tree - George & Jane's son William Hadden b 1835 married Elizabeth Fennell in 1857; their son Richard married Sarah Swannell; & their son Ernest married Martha Bradshaw born 1879. This Bradshaw girl has a relative that married into my Partridge family branch from Riseley, so Chris we have a very devious tenuous link.
Anyway back to Tombstones, the Beds FHS have transcribed the Monumental Inscriptions of Odell in the library, I will take a look at that for any Haddons at our next meeting on first Friday in March.
Regards John
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I have access to a tree on Genes Reunited that contains George Haddon & wife Jane Rogers who married at Wollaston on 25/11/1824, Jane's place of birth is down as Wollaston. George's mother Ann Hadden is included with a birth circa 1780 but has no further details.
From this tree - George & Jane's son William Hadden b 1835 married Elizabeth Fennell in 1857; their son Richard married Sarah Swannell; & their son Ernest married Martha Bradshaw born 1879. This Bradshaw girl has a relative that married into my Partridge family branch from Riseley, so Chris we have a very devious tenuous link.
Anyway back to Tombstones, the Beds FHS have transcribed the Monumental Inscriptions of Odell in the library, I will take a look at that for any Haddons at our next meeting on first Friday in March.
Regards John
Goodness me, for a moment I thought you were talking about my tree until you got to Elizabeth Fennell!!! What a small world it is! It does sound as though it is linked and the date of birth for George's mother Ann sounds about right. The burial date given before of an Ann Hadden, spinster, in 1769 doesn't fit because that means she is dead before George is born!
I await your findings with interest - I am working away from home over the weekend and leave later today so my family history research has to take a back seat now until nearer to half term. :(
Thanks for all your help!
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There were Haddons in Harrold at an earlier date, as there's an Ann buried there on 3 Sept 1769.
I obviously wasn't implying that Ann who was buried in 1769 was the mother of George born 1804! I was merely pointing out that there was a Haddon in Harrold from an earlier generation.
The c1780 birth for Ann, mother of George, is just a guesstimate. With no baptism or any other detail about her the best you can say is that she she was born in the range 1760-1788. For all we know she could have been a 44 year old widow when she gave birth to George. It was only a few weeks ago that the blindingly obvious solved a problem that had haunted me for years concerning my illegitimate 4xg grandfather. The parish register shows him as being the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Rook. The only Elizabeth living in the parish would have been 14 when she gave birth, unlikely, but not impossible. Until it very belatedly hit me that her mother was also Elizabeth, aged c 40, whose husband had died two years previously. I think it was the widow rather than the young daughter who was the mother. Can't prove it though as there's no bastardy mention in the parish chest
But it might be worthwhile checking for any bastardy proceedings in Odell parish chest to see if there's any more detail. You might get Ann's parish of residence and the father, if you're very lucky
David