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Title: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: GinaOz on Monday 21 February 11 05:58 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find more information on the couple Robert Scarth MUIR & Barbara SCOTT.
I know of at least 2 children:
1 Mary Drever MUIR bc 14 May 1863. Kirkwall
2. Elizabeth Scott MUIR bc 21 June 1865.Kirkwall

Mary Drever Muir married on 11 June 1885  in Sydney, Australia, a Robert Muir Morgan (b 3 April 1853, Kirkwall, Orkney). Mary Morgan died in Redfern, Sydney 10 May 1940. 
 
I'd be thrilled to learn more about this family in Orkney. I've traced Robert Muir Morgan's ancestors back to Thurso but am having difficulty sorting out the Muir line.

Regards,
Gina Francis
Lismore, NSW, Australia



Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: ev on Monday 21 February 11 15:25 GMT (UK)
hi Gina  :)

looks like the family may have moved to edinburgh  :-\

william muir born 6th march 1869 edinburgh midlothian scotland
parents robert scarth muir and barbara scott(IGI)

ev

ps robert S muir marriage barbara scott 11th august 1860 burntisland fife
     (IGI)  :-\
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 21 February 11 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina,

Robert S MUIR and Barbara SCOTT Married 11 August 1860, Burntisland, Fife, Scotland.
(Source Scotland Marriages on Familysearch Pilot)
You can download the Marriage Cert on Scotlandspeople for a very modest price compared to Australian Certs.
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/  

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: akc on Monday 21 February 11 15:32 GMT (UK)
there is a marriage in burntisland, fife on 11/8/1860 for robert s muir aged 34 mill street, kirkwall wheelwright to barbara scott, 28, widow, high st, burntisland fife
his parents were john muir miller deceased and barbara muir ( not related )
her parents were john scott master mariner burntisland and elizabeth harvey
witnesses were john ferney inland revenue and thomas drever joiner

so could be orkney connections on both sides as drever and harvey are quite common names in orkney
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 21 February 11 15:44 GMT (UK)
Excellent akc :)

1841 Census they are in Kirkwall;
John MUIR, 60, Miller
Barbara, 50
John, 25
Betsey, 20
Ann, 15
ROBERT, 15
John, 5
Catherine, 3
Kirkwall and St Ola/8/2/704

Have to go to bed now  :-[
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 21 February 11 15:46 GMT (UK)
1851 he is in Kirkwall a Cartwright employing 3 men and Mother Barbara is the Head of Family.

Sorry 3.00am here and must go!
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: ev on Monday 21 February 11 15:50 GMT (UK)
robert scorth muir 55 flour mill worker b. kirkwall orkney
widower with
stepsons james(26) and john(24) guthrie
children barbara(19) , elizabeth(15) , and william(12)
on 1881 census leith edinburgh

ev
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: ev on Monday 21 February 11 15:56 GMT (UK)
barbara scott marriage to george robertson guthrie 7th oct. 1852 kirkwall &
st ola orkney ..... maybe

ev
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: ev on Monday 21 February 11 16:01 GMT (UK)
elizabeth guthrie b. 1853
james guthrie b. 1854
john guthrie b. 1856
all born kirkwall and st ola orkney to george guthrie and barbara scott(IGI)

ev
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: ev on Monday 21 February 11 16:45 GMT (UK)
barbara muir(other surname scott) death 1879 leith midlothian born c1832
on scotlandspeople

barbara scott born 7th dec 1831 baptised jul. 1832 kirkwall and st ola
parents john scott and elizabeth hervey(IGI)

elizabeth scott 30 seamans wife with children at kirkwall orkney on the 1841
census at freeCEN website

ev
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: akc on Monday 21 February 11 18:24 GMT (UK)
barbara muir widow of john muir miller died 24/6/1868 @ 80yrs at queen street, kirkwall parents were john muir and jean barney ( could be barnett or barnet its a common name in orkney ) john m groundwater grandson present

there is also a marriage for john scott and elizabeth harvey 15/4/1830 kirkwall ( igi )

elizabeth harvey died 1891 edinburgh aged 82 her parents were george harvey and mary muir

akc
Title: Re: Robert Scarth MUIR & Barabara SCOTT 1860 ish
Post by: GinaOz on Monday 21 February 11 21:50 GMT (UK)
WOW... what a response... you are a wonderful, generous bunch of folks!
THANKS...now I'll spend today setting my 'Thinking Cap' abuzz!
I did discover that Elizabeth Scott Muir &  Barabara Muir were on the same ship as Mary Drever Muir...
The 'Australasian', arrived Sydney 1884.
I'm tracking down the sisters & their families in Australai.
Now I've got lots more to go on!
Whoopee!
 
Gina in Oz