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Title: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:01 GMT (UK)
Hi
Can someone help in anyway i'm very mixed up with a surname i give as much info i can to sort this mess  outi'm in. my G-gran is susan ann kezia curd B1884 d 5th nov 1971 croydon surrey. married my G-grandfather alfred John potter. Her Father is George curd B 1843? He married a sarah whitmore she is from Redhill? He farnborough kent?  His father is George curd married a kezia. on someones tree they had kezias surname as taylor and someone had Roberts so trying to find out was it Taylor or Roberts.

Thanks if you can help me

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: CCRAIL on Saturday 26 February 11 20:11 GMT (UK)
Hi
It may be that they are both right, in that she may have been married to a Taylor before marrying George Curd.  That may put her birth name at Roberts.  This would match the info in the 1841 census as follows:
CURD, George M 28 1813  Kent
CURD, Kezia F 32 1809  Kent 
TAYLOR, James M 9 1832  Kent 
TAYLOR, John M 7 1834  Kent 
CURDE, Wm M 3 1838  Kent 
CURDE, Susannah F 1 1840  Kent
They are in Sangers Yard in Bromley, Kent
Hope this helps clarify, I am sure someone will find the marriages for you.
Regards
CCRAIL 
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 20:12 GMT (UK)
There is this birth on freebmd

George Curd
Dec quarter 1842
Bromley 5 59

This would fit with George Curd senior coming from Farnborough.

I can't see a marriage for a George Curd and a Kezia on Freebmd, so it may have been before registration.

If you send for George Curd's (1842) birth certificate this will give you his mother's name.

Jan
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:17 GMT (UK)
Here is the 1851 census, the  back-ground info may assist  all those who will try to help you with this..

HO107/1606/F326 - Farnborough, Kent
George Curd. Head.  37 .Fishmonger. b. Tonbridge, Kent
Kezia Curd. Wife. 42. b. Crayford, Kent
James 19. b. Bromley, Kent
John 17. b. Bromley, Kent
Susannah. 11 b. Bromley, Kent
George . 8 b. Farnborough, Kent
Kezia 5. b. Farnborough, Kent
Henry 3.  b. Farnborough, Kent

(family miss-transcribed as Card).

Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:27 GMT (UK)
Hi
Thank-you everyone. Yes i found she came from crayford,also i was told she went to live with her son-in-law the bland family after George died?  plus the surname of children here Taylors are they her children from another marriage?
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: CCRAIL on Saturday 26 February 11 20:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Again
According to the IGI in Family Search a George Curd married a Kezia Taylor on the 21 AUG 1836   Lee, Kent, England.

A bit more of the puzzle maybe.
CCRAIL
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:28 GMT (UK)
From the IGI -
Marrriage of George Curd to Kezia Taylor 21 Aug 1836 at Lee, Kent. (M016505)
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:29 GMT (UK)
 ;D  our posts crossed CCRAIL..
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: CCRAIL on Saturday 26 February 11 20:31 GMT (UK)
Not a problem,
But can we find a Taylor who married a Kezia Roberts?

CCRAIL
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:32 GMT (UK)
No... so if they were already married in 1823 why are the children using Taylor as their surname in the '41, but Curd by '51.. that's a bit of a puzzle, will look for the children's baptism..
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi
Thanks see what you mean about childrens surnames

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hi captain
1836 they married

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hi groom

I found marriage on family search Lee Kent 1836 if her

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 20:41 GMT (UK)
No... so if they were already married in 1823 why are the children using Taylor as their surname in the '41, but Curd by '51.. that's a bit of a puzzle, will look for the children's baptism..

I though you had Kezia TAYLOR marrying George CURD in 1836? So Taylor was either her maiden name or name from a previous marriage.

There is a Kezia Roberts born 3 Dec 1803 Crayford baptised 25 Dec . Father John Roberts mother Susannah - IGI submitted entry.

Jan
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
Sorry.. yes 1836  :-
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 20:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Groom
I found kezia and George on family search married Lee kent 1936 but i was not sure if she the right person as someone had roberts and one other Taylor on tree

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: Captain2 on Saturday 26 February 11 20:47 GMT (UK)
From the IGI - baptism for James Taylor 15 April 1832 Bromley, Kent to parents Thomas Taylor and Kezia (C022109)  so it appears that Kezia was a widow when she married George Curd. Apologise for the 1823 blip! had a funny five.... the marriage was indeed in 1836 as I (and CCRAIL) had previously posted .. ;D
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 20:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Groom
I found kezia and George on family search married Lee kent 1936 but i was not sure if she the right person as someone had roberts and one other Taylor on tree

jew

Looks as if they are both right.  All you need to do now is find Kezia Robert's first marriage to Thomas Taylor - must be pre 1832.

Jan
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: CCRAIL on Saturday 26 February 11 20:57 GMT (UK)
Hi
Tried FreeReg and nothing on there but i am not sure of the Kent coverage.  Any way after that excitement it is time for my Cocoa.

Regards
CCRAIL
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 21:01 GMT (UK)
Possible death for Thomas Taylor:


Burial 13th December 1835  Thomas Taylor aged 25  St Peter and St Paul Bromley, Kent

If that's him she didn't hang about to remarry.  ;D ;D ;D


Jan
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 21:06 GMT (UK)
Hi
Thank-you i tried to get back to all my pc slow and i'm going to smash pc lol! Thank-you everyone. Thats young 25 to died

jew x
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 21:15 GMT (UK)
Hi groom
Just to say no if kezia did not wait long to remarry lol!

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 21:33 GMT (UK)
This could be the marriage:

Thomas Taylor  bachelor
Kezia Roberts  spinster
5th October 1830
by banns
St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey

witnesses: John Hall and Mary Ann Carter

Unfortunately it doesn't mention fathers' names.

Jan
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi groom

Thats great i have to get a cert find out who her parents are.. Thank-you all

jew
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 21:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Jew

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Thats great i have to get a cert find out who her parents are


I don't think that will be possible as she was born and married (both times)  before civil registration in 1837.

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There is a Kezia Roberts born 3 Dec 1803 Crayford baptised 25 Dec . Father John Roberts mother Susannah - IGI submitted entry.

Perhaps someone has access to the parish records and can find this for you.
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 21:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Groom
Thanks. I don't know all this civil reg/thing.  A least i found out more about kezia

jew x
Title: Re: Surname
Post by: groom on Saturday 26 February 11 22:14 GMT (UK)
This might help explain it

http://www.1837.com/civil-registration/

Good luck.

Title: Re: Surname
Post by: aug on Saturday 26 February 11 22:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Groom

Thank-you i try the link

jew xx