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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: conalb on Wednesday 18 March 09 21:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm looking for anyone who may have Albin, Albany or Aubigny (or a variation of any of these spellings) in their family tree.
Thanks
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My great grandmother was Catherine Albin. I have quite a lot of information/family history on the Albin family. Were you looking for anything in particular? Annot
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The Albin family I am looking for came to Scotland from Ireland mid-19th century. Are these the same ones?
Con
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Some of the Albin's went to Scotland. I think that Hugh Albin and family went to Glasgow.
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Where were the Albin's[ you are looking for] from ,in Ireland?
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It would probably be better if you could both give more details (names, dates, etc.) about the families you are talking about so you'll have a better chance to see if there might be any connection and others will know what you are looking for here.
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My great great grandfather was Stewart Albin. He came to Glasgow in the 1850's from Armagh, N. Ireland. I discovered that his name when he was christened was Aubigny ( various variations of spelling in Church records). His father was William and his mother Lydia.
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Have you managed to find Stewart Albin in Scottish census records? if so, there should be some indication of his age. If he came to Scotland as a child it's possible that his parents will also be found in Scottish records. He will have been born before the start of civil registration in Ireland so there will be no birth certificate for him.
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I know all about Stewart Albin and his family but am interested to know if someone knows anything about him prior to his coming to Scotland.
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Yes, but to find anything in Ireland you need more details since you are looking for information before the start of civil registration.
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Have looked in the records of the Church of Ireland in Armagh which is where I found what the name was originally. I was hoping there might be someone out there who could help.
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Interested in hearing from anyone with links to the Albin surname.
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The Albins I am looking for lived in the Richhill/Kildarton/Rockmacreaney/Mullabrack area of Armagh. My particular branch of the family came to Scotland somewhere between1851 and 1857. - I cannot find them in the census of 1851, but they had a son born in Glasgow in 1857. Stewart Albin's father was William and his mother was Lydia Campbell. Their family is all listed as Aubiney - various spellings - in the baptisms in the Parish Registers of St. Patrick's Church of Ireland, Armagh. Some of the family seem to have changed the spelling to Albin or Albany quite early, but Stewart still retained the original spelling until coming to Scotland. One of his brothers was James Albin who was Sexton of St. Mark's Church of Ireland in Armagh. I do not know if any may have emigrated.
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My great grandmother was Catherine Albin. I have quite a lot of information/family history on the Albin family. Were you looking for anything in particular? Annot
Hi Annot,
There's a Jane Albin that married Robert Gracey in 1849 in Portadown, and I believe this is the parents of Hugh Gracey (b.1855). I don't know any of his siblings names. Hugh's first son was named Alexander Albin Gracey (b.1882), so that makes me think this is a branch of our tree. If you have any info about Jane and her parents, or Jane and Robert's children, etc., I would appreciate your help.
Thanks,
cassiar
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Hi,
I'm looking for anyone who may have Albin, Albany or Aubigny (or a variation of any of these spellings) in their family tree.
Thanks
Hi conalb,
I believe that Jane Albin is in our family tree - married in 1849 to Robert Gracey in Portadown. If I'm right, they had a son Hugh Gracey (b.1855) who lived in Portadown and whose first child was named Alexander Albin Gracey. Do you think we're connected?
cassiar
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Hi Cassiar,
I cannot find a Jane Albin in the dates that you have given, but Jane as a first or middle name features quite a lot in my tree. As the surname is quite unusual I would think that your tree and mine must marry up somewhere. All my family seem to have come from the areas I mentioned, but I'll try some digging and see if I can find any in Portadown. I think the tradition was for the wedding to be in the bride's birthplace.
Connie
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Hi,
Have just had a look at the 1911 census from The National Archives of Ireland (online resource) and found a Hugh and Eliza Jane Gracey living in Shillington Street, Portadown. Their family was:
Malcolm 20
Hugh 18
Marion 16
Jane 14
Thomas 13
May 11
Olive 10
There was no Alexander but the census has an entry for Alexander Gracey 28 living in Portadown with his wife Mary, 22 and their daughter Myrtle who I presume was a baby because there is no age attached to her. These ages seem to tally with the dates you gave, as does the one for Hugh as he is given as 57 in the census.
This doesn't actually help me, but I hop it helps you!!
Connie
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Hi Connie,
That's the right family. Now if I could find the Albin connection. How did you search the Church of Ireland records in Armagh?
cassiar
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Hi Cassiar,
To search the Church records I had to go to Armagh. We had details in a family will (found in Scotland's people) of a bequest to the Church of Ireland in Kildarton, so we had a good idea of where to begin looking. There was also evidence of Albins in Mullaghbrack so we had a look at the records there. Previous to that my sister and I went to the Proni offices in Belfast and had a look at the records for St. Patrick's Church of Ireland in Armagh. I've found details of my own branch of the family, but can't find relationships with other branches. There's a vague notion that they might have been Huguenots who fled to Ireland, but I can't confirm this.
Connie
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Hi Connie,
I have Albin's in my family tree from the area you describe. I am interested to hear more about William and Lydia Albin and their emmigration as I have hit a brick wall in my research. I am interested as well in the change of spelling in the name that you describe.
My grandfather was a Robert married to Mildred, his father Robert married to Jane, his father William, wife unknown, birthplace unknown but approximate birthdate probably early 1840's. I have found a William through the census records that could be him but nothing to link him properly as he was widowed and living alone in 1911.
I do not have a Stewart Albin in my tree but would be happy to provide you with any information you desire. With so many Albin's coming out of the same place in N.Ireland it is sure that they are related somehow.
Amy
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My family was from Mullabrack. My GG Grandmother was Sarah Albin - father Jacob and mother Sarah Anderson. Sarah Albin married Andrew Erwin at Mullabrack in 1861. They emmigrated to New Zealand in 1863/64. The family story is that Sarah was living as a ward of her Uncle at the Bishop's Palace and Andrew was a stonemason on the estate. Don't know how true this is (might be a bit of the blarney) but it might also tie in with James Albin who was sexton of the church???? Can anyone please help with more info for this family?
I believe Sarah had at least 2 sisters.
Marriage, 12 May 1858, Mullabrack, Armagh, Ireland
Thomas Fullerton, 21, father- James Fullerton
Frances Matilda Albin, 21, father- Jacob Albin
Marriages, 25 Dec 1868, Mullabrack, Armagh, Ireland
George Whitten, father- Robert Whitten
Eliza Jane Albin, father- Jacob Albin
It also seems that Sarah named her own daughters after these sisters .
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Hello,
I am also researching the Albin family from County Armagh.
David Albin (born about 1813) and Mary Waugh (born 1822) were married in 1843. They moved to Mississippi between 1850 and 1854.
In an old family document, it was said that the Albins came over with the Waughs and Fordes. I may have found a sister of David Albin named Margaret Albin (born 1826) who married James Francis Forde (b. 1825). I am unsure that they are brother and sister, but am pretty sure that they are related. Margaret's father is listed as Robert Albin (from a marriage record).
David and Mary Albin had a son named Robert Albin (born 1849) in Portadown. He is my 2nd great grandfather.
Any information or direction that others can give me would be very welcome. I would also be happy to share what I have so far with others that might be interested.
Sincerely,
Randal Hansen
Surnames: Albin, Waugh, Forde
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Dear Conlab,
Sorry to gate-crash your Albin Family Tree :)
I am not to sure if we have contacted each other before. I have been researching my family tree for 25 years.
Some of my descendants are Albin and from Armagh with links to Kildarton. I am from Melbourne and I am wondering if you would like me to send you just one page of two letters which were sent to us here in Melbourne, 125 years ago from another closely related Albin family member. The letter was sent to my gg grandfather, John Albin, who was living in Bendigo. This particular page is easy to read and in pristine condition. The author also mentions some other, very odd, family names related to the Albin's from Armargh which will define my side of the Albins.
I look forward to your reply.
Kind regards
Steve
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Randal will need to make a few more posts in order to use PM (personal message) system to exchange email addresses, etc.
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How many more posts?
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Can you see a little green scroll under my user name/avatar on left side of my post? if you can see the scroll it's working now if not, make 1 more post and PM system should work.
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Dear Members,
I am trying a new approach to find someone from the Albin Family Tree with links to Armagh and Kildarton.
Please find attached a single page of a letter sent to the Albin family from Bendigo in 1886 which mentions two other names living with the relatives in Armagh. This letter is also from an Albin lad living in Ottawa. This pristine letter is 125 years old and is easy to read.
Kind regards
Steve
Moderator's Note: new post merged with existing Albin thread
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Hi Steve,
I don't recognise the names Carrick or Athison from my research, but, obviously recognise Kildarton. Have you tied any of the sites which list graves from cemeteries in Ireland? You might be able to find the two women there. Do you have the name of the man the letter writer was talking about? That might help narrow it down a bit.
Connie
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Dear Connie,
I have tried a few areas of research but the names CORRICK and ATHISON are quite rare in that part of Ireland. I have the name of the lad somewhere who wrote the letter back in 1886.
It seems the moderator has joined us together. Sorry to Hi-Jack your ALBIN line of research.
Kind regards
Steve
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Hi, Randal - My name is Rachel Albin, and I am a direct descendent of David Albin and Mary Waugh, through their son, John Henry Albin. John Henry Albin is my great-grandfather.
I'd love to connect with you and share any additional information about the Albins or Waughs. Admittedly, I've run into a bit of a wall going any further back than Robert Albin, as you noted below.
Hello,
I am also researching the Albin family from County Armagh.
David Albin (born about 1813) and Mary Waugh (born 1822) were married in 1843. They moved to Mississippi between 1850 and 1854.
In an old family document, it was said that the Albins came over with the Waughs and Fordes. I may have found a sister of David Albin named Margaret Albin (born 1826) who married James Francis Forde (b. 1825). I am unsure that they are brother and sister, but am pretty sure that they are related. Margaret's father is listed as Robert Albin (from a marriage record).
David and Mary Albin had a son named Robert Albin (born 1849) in Portadown. He is my 2nd great grandfather.
Any information or direction that others can give me would be very welcome. I would also be happy to share what I have so far with others that might be interested.
Sincerely,
Randal Hansen
Surnames: Albin, Waugh, Forde
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Some URL links to previous text comments-
Marriage, 12 May 1858, Mullabrack, Armagh, Ireland
Thomas Fullerton, 21, father- James Fullerton
Frances Matilda Albin, 21, father- Jacob Albin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1858/09541/5459022.pdf
Frances living in the townland of Drumorgan.
https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/fews-lower/mullaghbrack-lower-fews-portion/hamiltons-bawn/drumorgan/
Marriages, 25 Dec 1868, Mullabrack, Armagh, Ireland
George Whitten, father- Robert Whitten
Eliza Jane Albin, father- Jacob Albin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11471/8216461.pdf
Likewise, Eliza Jane living in Drumorgan.
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My GG Grandmother was Sarah Albin - father Jacob and mother Sarah Anderson.
The marriages of Sarah's sisters Frances and Eliza (1858, 1868) noted that their father was Jacob Albin.
He died on 28 December 1888 at Drumorgan, the informant being his son John Albin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06162/4760979.pdf
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Marriage of John Robert Albin to Martha J Bell on 23 January 1880 at 1st Markethill Presbyterian Church. John Robert from Dromorgin [sic], and his father Jacob Albin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11023/8030634.pdf
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Hi, Randal - My name is Rachel Albin, and I am a direct descendent of David Albin and Mary Waugh, through their son, John Henry Albin. John Henry Albin is my great-grandfather.
I'd love to connect with you and share any additional information about the Albins or Waughs. Admittedly, I've run into a bit of a wall going any further back than Robert Albin, as you noted below.
Welcome to Rootschat :) Randal hasn't been online since 2011 :(