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While researching William and Roseann Corrigan,(MS also Corrigan), I have realised Roseanne's brother Owen Corrigan and wife Catherine and family also migrated to Fernie BC 1907/08 from Scotland.
Owen first, then Catherine Corrigan, the wife and her children, travelled in 1908.
It appears that between 1908 and the Canadian 1911 census, Catherine dies, also possibly daughter Alice born 1900, and twins Patrick and Michael born 1907.
Could anyone help with finding info on these possible deaths?
Those were certainly hard years in Fernie - My William and Roseann lost young infants, Roseanne herself died in 1910. It looks like Owen and Catherine Corrigan didn't fare any better? Any info would help.
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The LDS Family Search site - https://www.familysearch.org/ - has transcripts of British Columbia BMD registrations.
Catherine Johnson Corrigan, 44, born Chester, England died 8 Jan 1909 in Coal Creek, British Columbia.
There are also marriages and deaths for a number of their children. Nothing for Alice Corrigan and she wasn't with her mother and siblings on the passenger list so it's possible she died in Scotland. There is a death for Patrick Corrigan in Coal Creek, BC. He died 22 Sep 1908 at the age of 10 months. No parents are listed in the transcript. Michael Corrigan died at age 11 months on 17 Oct 1908 in Coal Creek.
There are 5 Corrigan marriages that list the parents as Owen and Catherine/Katherine. There is also one for Roseanne where her name was mistranscribed as Carrigan and Catherine's as Jamison. I also saw at least 4 more deaths which list Owen and Catherine as the parents but I didn't do further searches for other children who didn't have the parents listed or the names were mistranscribed.
Jacquie
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Hi Maggbill
I can look up the death registrations and give you a transcription of the documents. However, I may not get to it until after May 10. I've got a list of look ups to finish up before I leave on a month long vacation in early April and I'm not able to spend much time at the family history library these days due to work and family committments.
Susan
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ScotlandsPeople has a death for an Alice Corrigan in Bellshill, Lanarkshire in 1901. Alice was under a year old. I didn't view the registration so I can't say for certain it's your Alice.
Jacquie
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Hi Jacquie,
Great find!!! Thank you so much for finding the death, - I had misread the families passenger list to Canada, in 1908, thought Alice was on it. I think my brain had gone to mush - long lists of children of both families, with repetitive names... hard to keep track.
And yes, it was my Alice - Checked entry on SP, and she died age 10 months, just before Christmas!! so you saved me time, and confusion - i had just never thought she had died so early on in Scotland.
Susan, if you could look up those deaths for me - it would be absolutely magic, no matter how long it takes. So we are now looking for Catherine Corrigan, age 40's, death between 1908 and 1911, and the same time period for Patrick and Michael Corrigan, twins born Scotland 1907. (and definitely on the passenger list with mother -hmmmmm, never thought, they could have died on board???) Otherwise, presuming all 3 deaths were in Fernie BC or thereabouts.
Again, thank you very much for the offer of a lookup.
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Hi again Susan,
the more I look at the 1911 Fernie BC census for my Owen Corrigan family, the more I see (or don't see !!!).
Mother Catherine isn't there - ? death
the twins Patrick and Michael (born 1907) - not listed
But..... also
The oldest child Theresa (born scotland 1892) - not listed - presuming she could have married.
But then Rose (born Scotland 1897) isn't on this census either - and she would only be about 14! Where is she? Not another death? Oh dear, from 1908 to 1911, half the family seems to disappear - surely they couldn't have been so unlucky?
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A search of the pilot family search site brings up the following deaths and marriages:
Marriages
Theresa Corrigan, b 1892 Cambusland, Lanarkshire, daughter of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
James Corrigan, b 1893 Cambuslan, Lanarkshire, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
Elizabeth Corrigan, b 1896, Lanarkshire, daughter of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Jaoinson
Owen Corrigan, b 1899 Scotland, son of Owen Corrigan and Katherine Johnson
Peter Corrigan, b 1906 Scotland, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joison
Harry Corrigan, b 1904 Scotland, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
Deaths
Catherine Johnson Corrigan, age 44, d Jan 8, 1909, Coal Creek, BC -- there are no parents' or spouse's names listed which could mean the informant was unrelated or the original document was illegible.
Owen Corrigan, b Mar 1860 Ireland, d Nov 24, 1931, Fernie, BC, son of Jas Corrigan and Mary Mcguire
Owen Corrigan, b Aug 8, 1899, d Aug 19, 1942, Fernie, BC, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Johnson
James Patrick Corrigan, b Sep 21, 1893, d Mar 7, 1963, Fernie, BC, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
Peter Corrican, b May 22, 1905, d May 26, 1967, Fernie, BC, son of Owen Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
Teresa Doratty, b. May 16, 1892, d Apr 10, 1978, Cranbrook, BC, daughter of Owen Peter Corrigan and Catherine Joinson
There may be others that have been mistranscribed...I didn't do a thorough search at this time.
I'll add these to my list and will do the look-ups as soon as I can but it will most likely be in mid-May.
Susan
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Susan, if you look at my initial post there are additional entries - a marriage (Rose Ann) and two deaths (Patrick and Michael) - for this family (I made a typo in my initial post and put Peter instead of Patrick - I've fixed it now).
The children on the passenger list with Catherine were Rose, Owen, Henry, Peter, Patrick, Michael and Teresa. The children listed with Owen on the 1911 census in Coal Creek, BC were James, Elizabeth, Owen, Henry and Peter.
It looks like Owen and Catherine had 10 children altogether. Of the 10, 3 died in infancy (Alice, Patrick and Michael). Between Susan and myself, we have found 7 marriages (all in BC) and 7 deaths (6 in BC, 1 in Scotland).
I can't find a death for Rose Corrigan Brown but there are 3 deaths for children of Hugh Brown and Rose Corrigan in the BC Death Index.
I also can't find a death for Elizabeth Corrigan Ramshaw. It looks like she moved to England for a couple of years though. There is an incoming UK passenger list entry for Elizabeth Ramshaw (20) and infant daughter Katherine (1) (who list the address they are going to as Castleford, Yorkshire) arriving in Liverpool on 26 Dec 1915. Castleford is the area her husband was from. Elizabeth, Katherine and another child (a boy who is 9 months old - the page seems to have been accidently folded when being microfilmed and covers the name) returned to Canada on the Olympic arriving in Halifax on 20 Mar 1918.
Henry seems to be the other Corrigan that we can't find a death for in BC.
Jacquie
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Oh Jacquie and Susan,
How can I ever thank you ? I have just come online, and found such an amazing amount of information - I haven't had the time to take it all in, will have to print out your replies and study ...
And Jacquie - my sincere apologies, I actually didn't see your first posting - somehow I just managed to read Susans and missed yours out.....
You have both done such a wonderful job ! I am so pleased !!
And I ask myself - Will I never learn? I tend to get stuck on SP info - and forget about Familysearch site...... (not having had success a few times with them, - it tends to go to the back of my memory banks!).... I could blame it on dementia (but maybe I am not old enough yet, to get away with that excuse?
I do value your expertise, and great generosity in finding out this info for me and if you have the time in May Susan, that would be great... but you have already both done so much... I just can't quite believe it!!
Just looking at info - the twins dying in Sept. and Oct of 1908 and the mother Catherine dying in January 1909... Wonder about the causes of death.... what an incredibly hard life eh?
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Hi
Thanks, Jacquie. I did read your first post but by the time I started finding all the other deaths and marriages I obviously forgot what I had read!! My short-term memory is not so good apparently!!
I just found a public tree on Ancestry with Henry Corrigan married to Ethel Cartnell. It shows that Henry died in Kelowna, BC in 1988 but it's not sourced. The LDS records only cover to 1986, I think, so that's why we didn't find it on that site; however, I'm not finding it on the BC Archives site either and that index includes deaths up to 1989. Perhaps it is mistranscribed so I'll try a few variations.
Maggbill, if you have access to Ancestry, you may want to try to contact the owner of this tree (patcor_1). The tree is very small with no siblings shown for Henry but I think the tree owner may be a child or grandchild of Henry and Ethel.
Susan
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HI Susan,
Unfortunately I don't have ancest. membership.... amazing how much I can manage to spend just even on SP - and my tree is mainly Scottish ... so apart from this fairly remote branch, and some others which proved to be sort of "dead enders" in USA.. I don't think I will be gettin access to Ances. soon....
Still absorbing all the info you and Jacquie have found - great!... will spend my Sunday on it!
Cheers
Maggs
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I know what you mean....there is no end of ways to spend money on research. I really find it a joy to search on SP though and have the records readily available.
I've had no luck with finding a death for Henry/Harry Corrigan on the BC Archives site. I've searched for all the Harrys and Henrys who died in Kelowna in 1988 and 1989 with no success....no surname even remotely close to Corrigan. Will see if anything else turns up.
Susan
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Thanks Susan, for your continued interest ....
We might be spending plenty on our Family Tree pastime - but - hey we could be wasting it on many things -of much less benefit!
And I know what you mean about finding records on SP - it gives me such a buzz - to read the original entries, and often have the initial job of deciphering them (love that, - I worked with doctors for years, so really used to deciphering the unreadable)... and then gleaning every bit of information on them... Holds me back from the housework - but there again - that is another plus !!
Happy Hunting...
Maggs
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Alice Corrigan was my grandmother. She married Royal Mohondro in British Columbia before coming to the U.S. They had 5 children, 4 born in Fernie, B.C. Canada and 1 in the U.S. Interestingly, 2 of their sons James and Roy named their sons Michael and Patrick, which appear to have been family names.
Mohondro, Alice, b. 1903, d. 1972, s/w Royal R
Mohondro, Royal R, b. 1899, d. 1973, s/w Alice
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=41109385&PIpi=31481413
Thanks for the info I've found here! I am very interested in my Grandmother's Scottish history.
Kerry Mohondro
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I should add that my grandmother's parent's names were William and Rose Corrigan from Scotland and my Grandma, Alice Corrigan Mohondro was born in Scotland in 1903 before going to Canada with her family.
Marriage Royal Randell Mohondro & Alice Corrigan
16 Sep 1924 - Fernie BC Canada
To: Royal Randell Mohondro (born 1899) in Montana, U.S.A.
Not sure if this is the same Alice Corrigan you mention, but she sounds like she may be.
Thanks,
Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
Lovely to "meet" you! You and I certainly do have the same Alice Mohondro (Corrigan or Carrigan). Her Father William Corrigan (Carrigan) was the younger brother of my great grandfather James Carrigan. The family in Glasgow was originally "Carrigan" and those who remained there retained this, - but when William married Rose (Or RoseAnn) Corrigan (yes that was her maiden surname) - they seem to have started using the Corrigan version.
I was delighted to see the grave photo of Alice and Royal Randell Mohondro. Actually I have quite a bit of information on William and RoseAnn - and Alice and siblings - if you do another couple of "posts" you will be able to "pm" me and we can share more details and maybe some bmd certificates, if you don't already have them.
I have just had a lovely weekend - family celebration of our 50 years here in South Australia - so it is so good to be in contact with another descendant of our ancestors!
Cheers
Maggs
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Hello Maggs, nice to meet you too! Sorry for the tardy reply, I forgot to check back on this post.
So we're related then? That's exciting! How many more posts do I need before I can pm you? I would love to pick your brain, as you obviously have way more family information than I do.
There seems to be some family debate over whether "Grandma Moe" was from Scotland or Ireland, but if we have the same Alice Corrigan, then it appears Scotland is the correct answer. My father was Roy Mohondro, who was the last child of Alice and Royal born in Fernie, BC. The family moved from BC to Washington State, US and lived primarily in the Spokane Valley of Washington.
Interesting info on the Corrigan / Carrigan surname, thank you! My brother Patrick's middle name is Corrigan, and my brother Michael named one of his sons Corrigan Mohondro. (Just keeping the Corrigan ball rolling!) :)
Would love to hear more from you, thank you for the reply!
Kerry
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Here is a picture of Alice (Corrigan) and Royal Mohondro taken in Richland, WA not long before my grandmother's death. (Most likely taken around 1970-71.) I remember that my grandma had a wonderful accent, but I was 11 when she passed away.
Kerry
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Hi Kerry
Thank you so much for this photo. Unexpected photos are such a joy - I was overwhelmed last year when I received a photo of my great grandmother from a totally unexpected source. It seems that I have luck with my mothers side of the family, but photos of my fathers side are much more difficult to find. I have looked at Alice and Royal's data so often over the past few years, and now I can put a face to them. Makes the family tree feel so much more real and personal.
And how often do I feel that I have gone as far as I can with something - leave the "brick wall" behind, only to discover that it reappears when you least expect it!
Have you done much research so far? Any particular aspects u are eager to chase up?
Maggs
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You're welcome, Maggs! I really haven't done much research at all, sadly. I just recently had a conversation with some family members regarding the Ireland vs Scotland birthplace debate re Alice Corrigan, so started poking around and found this thread! You'd done most of the work for me!
Thank you for sending the birth record for Alice Corrigan. It was interesting to see her father (and most of the other fathers) listed as coal miners. Have you determined why it was that the family left Scotland?
Again, thanks for your help! Congrats on your 50 year Australian family celebration! Now I am curious on how they picked the locations (BC, Australia) to relocate their families!
Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
Will pm you with a story I wrote in 2009 re the Carrigan side of the family.
Maggs
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I came across this page looking back i my family history of the Corrigans in Fernie. If I can be of any help, feel free to contact me.
Guy