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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lincolnshire Lookup Requests => Lincolnshire => England => Lincolnshire Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: Flooze on Wednesday 23 March 11 08:16 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to locate more details about the marriage of Charles Swain to Beatrice Schofield in the Sept quarter of 1930 in Lincs. I am particualry interested in the parents names of the these two and any witnesses at the marriage.
Any help would be wonderful
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Hi Flooze
Welcome to rootschat. :)
I think you will probably have to buy the marriage certificate for this. The Lincoln registration district covers all the places mentioned here http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/lincoln.html
Rosie
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Hi, welcome to RootsChat :)
Here's the marriage http://tinyurl.com/5su3o2w
Sorry, no witnesses ;)
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Hi, welcome to RootsChat :)
Here's the marriage http://tinyurl.com/5su3o2w
Sorry, no witnesses ;)
Nice one Geoff :) - I really must start using the new familysearch ::)
Rosie
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FreeBMD has a Micah Brunt SWAIN Birth Reg Jan/Feb/Mar Qtr 1875, Leek, 6b 318
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Welcome Flloze,
1881 Census Micah is with his Parents CHARLES, as Silk Manufacturer, born c 1827, Leek, Staffs and Sarah J, c 1851, Leek, Staffs;
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Marriage FreeBMD;
Charles SWAIN, Dec 1868, Leek, 6b 397
On the same page is Sarah Jane MALKIN
There are Army Records for Micah.
Do you have Census access?
I can type them up if you dont.
Trish :)
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There are 2 Army Records for Micah;
Micah SWAIN;
19 August 1891, Age 18, Occp Moulder, born Leek, Staffordshire
Next of Kin;
Mother SARAH, 104 Parliament St, Derby
Married to Catherine, Belfast LOCKTON, Spinster, 22/9/1898, Belfast
Witnesses Louisa E Lockton, Maurice Trant
Regiment;
Sherwood Forester, Derbyshire Regiment
Posted South Africa 1900/01
Look likes like Charles rejoined the Army 1914;
Micah SWAIN;
North Staffordshire Regiment
Age 41, born Leek, Staffordshire
Wife ;
Catherine LOCKTON,
Married Catholic Church of St Patrick, Belfast, Ireland, 22/9/1898, by the Rev J McKinley.
Witnesses,
Maurice Trant
L E Lockton
Children,
Date and Place of Birth;
Evelyn Dorothy, 15/10/1899, Newry, Baptised 5/11 by Father McGinnis
CHARLES PATRICK, 17/3/1902, Kutwood/Fleetwood ? (hard to read)
Beatrice Maud Eliza, 15/10/1903, Lichfield
James Leonard, 25/9/1905, Lichfield
Louise Catherine, 8/11/1908, Lichfield
Joy Helena, 24/9/1911, Eltham
Address when Demobolised from Army 28/12/1919 , 14 Eagle Street, Hanley
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Look likes like Charles rejoined the Army 1914;
He was in the army in 1911 :)
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Thanks I missed that :)
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Wow Thank you all sooooo much ;D
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If you need more Flooze I'll be back on-line tomorrow night my time.
(I'm in Australia)
As Charles was born 1902 without the Marriage info Geoff-E found I wouldnt have been able to find all the other stuff I posted.
Trish :)
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Hi are you still looking for information on Micah Swain. My mother Jean Aspey (Swain) in Micah's grand daughter!! My name is Ian Aspey. His sons name was Charles Patrick ( my mums dad ) What relation are you to Micah ? Look forward to hearing from you as I am trying to put mums family tree together, thanks Ian
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Wow Thank you all sooooo much ;D
Hi are you still looking for information on Micah Swain. My mother Jean Aspey (Swain) in Micah's grand daughter!! My name is Ian Aspey. His sons name was Charles Patrick ( my mums dad ) What relation are you to Micah ? Look forward to hearing from you as I am trying to put mums family tree together, thanks Ian
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Welcome to Rootschat softail1690.
Unfortunately Flooze hasnt been on Rootschat since 2011. If they are still around or have the same email they should be notified of your reply.
If we can be of any help with your Family Tree please just add to this thread any queries you have.
Trish :)
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As links from this thread are old and dont work anymore a brief synopsis for you;
Marriage details;
05 Aug 1878
Prestbury, Cheshire, England
Charles SWAINE age 52, Widowed, Father WILLIAM
Sarah Jane MALKIN, Single, Father JOHN
1881 Census
Nelson St 35,
Titteworth, Staffordshire
Charles Swain, 54, Head, Mar, Silk Manufacturer, born Leek
Sarah J. Swain, 30, Wife, Mar, born Leek
Children;
William H. Swain , 11
Lucy Jane Swain, 9
Ellen E. Swain, 8
MICAH B. Swain, 6****
James T. Swain, 3
Harriet T. Swain, 1
1871 in Leek we have;
Charles Swain, 45, Head, Mar, Silk Weaver and Provision Dealer
Sarah A Swain, 20, Wife
Wm Hy Swain, 1, Son
1861 Charles is married to a Mary;
Findern, Sytaffordshire
Charles Swain, 36, Ribbon Weaver, born Leek
Mary A Swain, 33, Wife, born Newham. Gloucestershire
Joseph Knighton, 10, Servant
1851 Census
Derby St Alkmund, Derbyshire
Charles Swain, 24, Head, Mar, Silk Ribbon Weaver, born Leek, Staffordshire
Mary Ann Swain, 23, Wife, Mar, born Gloster, Gloucestershire
Veraial Jackson, 19, Lodger
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My gut says this is Charles' Father and Siblings;
1841 Census
Astbury, Cheshire
HO107/119/1/Astbury
William Swain, 40, Ribbon Weaver Journeyman
Harriet Swain, 20
Jane Swain, 18
Maria Swain, 15
Mary Swain, 14
Eliza Swain, 12
William Swain, 10
James Swain, 8
All older Children are Silk Throusters
All NOT born in County
By 1851 William has remarried;
Buglawton, Cheshire
William Swain, 52, Head, Mar, Grocer, born Warwickshire
Judith Swain, 50, Wife, Mar, born Congleton, Cheshire
William Swain, 24, Son, Silk Throuster, born Leek, Staffordshire***
James Swain, 18, Son, Silk Throuster, born Bosley, Cheshire
Georgeana Lomas, 20, Stepdaughter
Marriage;
27 December 1841, St. Michael, Macclesfield, Cheshire
William SWAIN, Father WILLIAM Swain
Judith NIXON, Father Peter COTTERELL
(Familysearch.Org)
Looks like Judith has been married a few times;
1841 we have;
Judith Nixon, 40
Joseph Nixon, 12
John Lomas, 19
Elizabeth Lomas, 13
Georgiana Lomas, 10
This may be 1st Marriage for Charles;
03 Jun 1844
Hurdsfield, Cheshire
Charles SWAIN age 20, Father WILLIAM
Mary BADCOCK age 20, Father EDWARD
(Familysearh.Org)
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F/S has some children for WILLIAM/LUCY Swain;
HANNAH 1822 Coventry, Warwickshire
MARIA 1826 Leek, Staffordshire
EMMA/ELIZA 1829 Leek, Staffordshire
JAMES 1833 Bosley, Cheshire
Burial;
Lucy SWAINE
12 Jan 1836, Congleton, Cheshire
Married, age 35, Spouse WILLIAM
Charles Swains 1878 Marriage Cert would confirm my theory that the above William is his Father.
Lastly in 1841 in Astbury, Cheshire we have;
CHARLES Swain, 15, Apprentice Silk Weaver, in the Household of James Kennedy
William and Family are in Astbury as well (1841 Census posted earlier)
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F/S has some children for WILLIAM/LUCY Swain;
HANNAH 1822 Coventry, Warwickshire
MARIA 1826 Leek, Staffordshire
EMMA/ELIZA 1829 Leek, Staffordshire
JAMES 1833 Bosley, Cheshire
Burial;
Lucy SWAINE
12 Jan 1836, Congleton, Cheshire
Married, age 35, Spouse WILLIAM
Charles Swains 1878 Marriage Cert would confirm my theory that the above William is his Father.
Lastly in 1841 in Astbury, Cheshire we have;
CHARLES Swain, 15, Apprentice Silk Weaver, in the Household of James Kennedy
William and Family are in Astbury as well (1841 Census posted earlier)
That's fantastic! Thank you very much for all the information. Are you any relation to the swain family?
Thanks Ian
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Hi Ian,
No, I have no connection to the Swains.
I just enjoy helping people with their Family Trees :)
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Hi Ian,
No, I have no connection to the Swains.
I just enjoy helping people with their Family Trees :)
Ok thanks for all your help. I really need to find out about my mums dad, Charles Patrick Swain born 17 th March 1902 . I'm not sure where to look ? Any help would be fantastic! Mum said he was in the army Staffordshire regiment if that's any help , thanks again Ian
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He seems to have been born in Lancashire.
Births Jun 1902
SWAIN Charles Patrick Fylde 8e 694
It would make sense to ask about him on the Lancs board where folk are likely to have more Lancs resources http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lancashire/
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He seems to have been born in Lancashire.
Births Jun 1902
SWAIN Charles Patrick Fylde 8e 694
It would make sense to ask about him on the Lancs board where folk are likely to have more Lancs resources http://www.rootschat.com/forum/lancashire/
Thanks Geoff.....
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Hiya, did you find the info you was looking for? Beatrice was my grans mother, so if you'd like any more info feel free to ask :)