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Title: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 00:44 BST (UK)
Thanks to this great website I have discovered that my Gt Grandmother was Lilian Elsie Hingley born in 1889/90. According to the 1901 census she was 12 and living in Walworth London, however, the head of the family is called Walter Whorlay and his wife Minnie. She is listed as daughter. The strange thing is the difference in the surnames as they have several older children with the surname Whorlay and then several younger ones with the surname Hingley, all listed as sons and daughters. Surely is there had been a remarriage this would have been the other way round. Has anyone any idea why this may be listed this way as I am very confused. ???

Thanks
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 04 May 11 00:50 BST (UK)

Was Minnie much younger than Walter WHORLAY.... his children from his first marriage could well have been much older than any children Minnie HINGLEY  had from her first marriage??
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 01:13 BST (UK)
Hi CAZI & welcome to RootsChat

I'm having a job finding this family on the 1901 census.  Do you have the census reference - Piece/Folio/Page?

Linda
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 04 May 11 01:20 BST (UK)


Was just about to post same Linda....  great minds?? :o ;D
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 01:26 BST (UK)
Something like that   :)
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 04 May 11 01:31 BST (UK)


I can see a baptism that might be hers... looks like they baptised a lot of their family on the same day


Walworth All Saints

Lilian Elsie daughter of Josiah Thomas and Annie HINGLEY of 36 Alvey Street. Baptised Aug 15th 1900  Born May 10th 1889.  Father's Occupation Engineers

Karenlee
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 01:59 BST (UK)
Hi CAZI & welcome to RootsChat

I'm having a job finding this family on the 1901 census.  Do you have the census reference - Piece/Folio/Page?

Linda

I'm new to all this but I wrote down RG13/0384/~F131, is that the number. Not sure what it means.

Thanks


Cazi
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:04 BST (UK)

Was Minnie much younger than Walter WHORLAY.... his children from his first marriage could well have been much older than any children Minnie HINGLEY  had from her first marriage??

No strangely she was 5 years older than him according to the 1901 census. The Whorlay children were 17 and 15 and the Hingley's ranged from 13 to 6.
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:05 BST (UK)

Looks like the name is LONGLEY to me... what do others think??
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:09 BST (UK)
I only saw a transript so it's possible that they read the name wrong, thanks for that as the name Whorlay certainly seemed hard to trace in previous census's.
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:11 BST (UK)


I can see a baptism that might be hers... looks like they baptised a lot of their family on the same day


Walworth All Saints

Lilian Elsie daughter of Josiah Thomas and Annie HINGLEY of 36 Alvey Street. Baptised Aug 15th 1900  Born May 10th 1889.  Father's Occupation Engineers

Karenlee


Thanks for this, I wonder if they all lived at the same address and that her paerents weren't there on the day of the census and it's somehow got confused.
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: karenlee on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:19 BST (UK)


1901 Census England London Newington St Peter Walworth
RG13/378/6/4
36 Alvey Street

HINGLEY
Josiah T Head Marr 42 Engineer Lifts Maker Surrey Redhill
Annie Wife Marr 41 Surrey Reigate
Ethel Dau Unmarr 18 London Camberwell
Harry Son Unmarr 17 London Camberwell
Annie Dau Unmarr 14 London Camberwell
Lilian Dau Unmarr 11 London Camberwell
Frank Son Unmarr 10 London Camberwell
Percy Son Unmarr 2 London Newington

Karenlee
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: CAZI on Wednesday 04 May 11 02:54 BST (UK)
Thanks so much again, looks like I may have had the wrong family anyway then. This website and you all are so fantastic. :) I'm in Australia, so need to do all this via the internet, I'm happy to subscribe to get access to census info, BMD etc but not sure which sites are the best ones to do this. I've tried the free ones to get started but where apart from you great people is the best place for me to look up this info for myself.
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 09:30 BST (UK)
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I'm in Australia, so need to do all this via the internet


A lot of us do it all via the internet, wherever we live!   :)

A free site for Births Marriages & Deaths is

www.freebmd.org.uk

Census information on Ancestry or Find My Past.  Both are good for different things.  Full 1911 census information is still only available on FindMyPast.  You can sometimes get a free 14 day trial on sites like these, but remember to cancel before the trial period is up or you will get stung for a subscription.

If you need to order BMD certificates NEVER go through any of the search sites - they will overcharge you.  Go directly to

www.gro.gov.uk

or one of the local register offices

Linda

PS Keep asking questions - we're only too pleased to help   :) :)

Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 09:31 BST (UK)

Looks like the name is LONGLEY to me... what do others think??

Where did you find this??

Linda
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 04 May 11 09:58 BST (UK)
Hi Cazi :)

Looks like the name is LONGLEY to me... what do others think??

Definitely LONGLEY - the mistranscription might be because Walter is Walter W, and the second W is squished up against LONGLEY, which might make it look like another name (still doesn't look like "Whorlay" to me though).  There are a couple of children on one page, and then the younger children are on the next page with a more clearly-written surname of LONGLEY :)  (ref is RG13/384/131/17-18 if anyone wants to check)

So no HINGLEYs in that household ;)

Cheers
Prue

Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 10:09 BST (UK)
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I'm new to all this but I wrote down RG13/0384/~F131, is that the number. Not sure what it means.


CAZI

Do you see how this relates to what Prue has given as the reference  RG13/384/131/17-18?

year code for 1901    RG13
Piece       384
Folio        131
Page        17    (and in this case p18 as well)

This would narrow a search down to about 30 people

Linda
Title: Re: Lilian E Hingley, confused re parents.
Post by: danuslave on Wednesday 04 May 11 10:15 BST (UK)
RG13/384/131/17-18

I think that somewhere the members of the family on page 17 have been transcribed as Whorley, and those on page 18 as Hingley - and they're both wrong!

This is why it always pays to look at the original image if you can   :) :)

Linda