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Title: charlotte ring
Post by: mark foot on Monday 23 May 11 23:22 BST (UK)
Charlotte ring born 1842 at Bradford Abbas. Her mother Suan was born 1804 at Over Copmton . Anything regarding Charlottes mother and father and their families would be appreciated. Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: groom on Monday 23 May 11 23:34 BST (UK)
Hi

1851  HO 107/1859/409/2  Bradford Abbas

Susan Ring head  46   unmarried  Glove sewer
Sarah Ring            19    Glove sewer
George Ring          18    Ag Lab
Charlotte Ring        15   Glove sewer
Mary A Ring              9   Glove sewer
Jane Ring                  1

All born Bradford Abbas except Susan born Over Compton

Jan

Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: groom on Monday 23 May 11 23:37 BST (UK)
1841 Class: HO107; Piece 291; Book: 2 Bradford Abbas

Father was Robert Ring 30 born Dorset. (Remember ages were rounded up or down) The family have been transcribed as King.

Robert King   30
Susan King   35
Sarah King   10
George King   8
Charlotte King   4
Mary King   1
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: nanny jan on Monday 23 May 11 23:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

Dorset OPC has this baptism on the Bradford Abbas page:

5th March 1837    Charlotte daughter of Susan K/Ring     Bradford Abbas          father not given


http://www.opcdorset.org



Nanny Jan


Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: groom on Monday 23 May 11 23:52 BST (UK)
This is interesting

1861  RG 9/1361/11/16

Susan Ring   unmarried  57  Leather glove sewer   Over Compton
Charlotte Ring  unmar    24               "
Jane Ring  unmar   17                        "
George H Ring grandson  11 mths


Living next door is

Robert Ring  mar  49   Ag Lab Over Compton
Sarah Ring  wife   40
Samuel Ring son  17
Alfred Ring 14
Therzia Ring  11

Surely it's not the same Robert? Looking again at 1851 Susan says unmarried.

Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 24 May 11 19:48 BST (UK)
very many thanks Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 24 May 11 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi, baptism of charlottes mother,

Susanna Ring
birth date abt. 1804
Christening: 29 April 1804
Father: Mark Ring
Mother: Charlotte
Over Compton, Dorset.

Other siblings of Susanna: James,  Christened 24 May 1801:  Elizabeth , Chr. 5 Sept. 1802.  Henry, Chr. 22 Dec. 1805.  Martha, Chr. 7 Apr. 1808.  George, Chr. 18 Apr. 1809.  Martha and Robert  Chr. 9 Jun. 1811.  George, Chr.  5 Nov. 1815.

Possible Christening for Susanna's father Mark Ring.
birth date abt. 1766
Christening: 19 Oct. 1766
Father: William Ring
Mother: Mary
Bradford Abbas, Dorset.

Hope this helps,
claire.t
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 24 May 11 20:59 BST (UK)
Hi, bit of an update,

Christenings of Mark Rings siblings, parents William and Mary all born Bradford Abass, Dorset.

William  Chr. 24 Sept. 1749.
Susannah Chr. 28 Dec. 1751.
George  Chr. 31 Mar. 1754.
John Chr. 14 Dec. 1755.
Betty  Chr. 20 Nov. 1761.
Robert  Chr. 19 Feb. 1764.
James Chr. 22 May 1769.
Martha Chr. 14 Jul 1772.


claire.t
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 24 May 11 22:29 BST (UK)
many thanks
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 12:41 GMT (UK)
Nan, I wonder if you habe any further thoughts as this is very strange with the children's names being in the same order? I am trying to confirm all my gt gt gt grandparents and any help with the Ring's would be most helpful.  Kind regards Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 12:56 GMT (UK)
Nan, I also wonder if you can find anything about Robert Ring (king) as they might throw up a clue to Charlotte's parents. I wonder if you have access to charlotte and george's wedding details as it might show the father's name.
Kind regards  Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: jan57 on Tuesday 23 December 14 13:37 GMT (UK)
Ancestry has the  Banns record for  a  Charlotte  Ring and George Higgins both  of  Bradford  Abbas Parish    on 8th, 15th  and 23rd  Feb 1862   but  can't  see  a marriage ,   I notice  on an earlier post,  re a   census that   the grandson  had the   middle  initial  of  H 
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 13:57 GMT (UK)
I have noticed that on Charlotte's wedding to George Higgins that no father's name hzs been given and also with her younger sibling that no father's name is given. It is just very strange that the names are almost identical for the children on the census as those of Robert and Susan!
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: jan57 on Tuesday 23 December 14 13:57 GMT (UK)
Ah   no wonder I  couldn't  see  a marriage  Charlotte  surname   has  been mistranscribed as  REAY,    marriage was  on 26  Feb 1863  no  Fathers details were given for Charlotte    one of the witnesses was Jane Ring 
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: jan57 on Tuesday 23 December 14 14:18 GMT (UK)
Robert  Ring    married  Sarah Read in 1843 in Bradford  Abbas ,  Roberts father is given as  Mark Ring,  Carpenter


 Robert and  Susan( Susannah)   are siblings   see  Claire  T's  post   on this thread   1841    census didn't  give relationships,   as well  as the  adult ages being   out   
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 15:30 GMT (UK)
many thanks. George H , may well be for George Higgins as Charlotte married George Higgins. I am still confused that it appears Robert's and sister's Susan have some children with identical names, in order and approx same ages. I wonder if there is any possibility that her children were cared for by her brother or something else?

Thanks Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 21:17 GMT (UK)
Claire you've been a big help. I got confused over the children of susan and robert but all okay now. Thanks Mark
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Tuesday 23 December 14 22:38 GMT (UK)
The 1841 census shows  a robert and susan king with the info tying up with my charlotte ring and her siblings and mother. Any thoughts please about a possible marriage to a robert that the 1841 census suggests and if so then susan's marriage details? I am rather confused about thatand about a possible brother robert born 1811.
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 23 December 14 22:51 GMT (UK)
Mark, as I think someone pointed out early there are no relationships or marital status given on 1841. Whilst it is easy to jump to the conclusion that a man and woman listed together are married, it is just as likely they are siblings (especially as Susan was, and remained, unmarried)
Title: Re: charlotte ring
Post by: Mark Foot on Monday 29 December 14 19:44 GMT (UK)
It would appear that robert ring married sarah read in 1843 and therefore it does suggest that at the time of the 1841census that he was living at perhals he.ping to support his sister, who would have been unmarried. Please confirm that this is your view. Very many thanks.  Mark