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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: brit on Saturday 30 July 11 22:32 BST (UK)
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George b Dec 1864 Walmer, Kent , married Eliza M. Perkes age 25 on 16 Sept 1889, St mary at Lambeth, London. On the 1891 census they were living at 14 Reedworth St. Lambeth, London and shows his occupation as police constable. Cannot find them after this except a possible death for him in 1918 at Eastry. Can anyone help later residences and perhaps which police force he might have been in. Appreciate any help. Brit
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Which of their children are you descended from? Name/birthyear/birthplace may help find them on the 1901
No children in 1891 and they are living in Lambeth. Eliza is shown as 32
No other Eliza Sponder living in Lambeth in 1891
May be coincidence but there is a death on freebmd for an Eliza Sponder in Lambeth in 1897 but she is shown as aged 43 - perhaps she knocked a few extra years off her age as she was already 5yrs older than George
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Sorry had info from 1911 census but apparently not allowed to pass it on as infringes copyright.
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Have found a Caroline Sponder (georges sister) marrying a Sparrow,so the census entry is the correct man! Hope this doesn`t infringe copyright !
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If he was living in Lambeth, he'd almost certainly be working for the Metropolitan Police, L division. Info about service records at The National Archives, Kew, here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/metropolitan-police.htm
Service records typically give birthdate and place, previous employer, physical description, details of which stations and when worked, any promotions etc. If they stayed until retirement you can also get pension records which give amount and where it was paid.
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Hi
Just to clarify, the terms and conditions of your membership with FindMyPast state that you can only use the site for your own family research. Doing look-ups for others, even if you don't charge, is breaking the terms of your membership. Posting information you have found by looking at the 1911 census images is not breaking copyright rules, but breaking your membership rules.
You can only post information you have found in the free index of the 1911 census.
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
Posting information you have found by looking at the 1911 census images is not breaking copyright rules, but breaking your membership rules.
Can you clarify the statement above re: not breaking copyright rules as the following is an extract from a statement by the RC Copyright Editor found in
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355486.0.html
FindMyPast has an exclusive license to host the images of the 1911 for a limited period. The index and the online transcriptions on that site are subject to copyright.
I completely agree with your statement re: breaking the terms of any FindMyPast membership but I understand that some other sites are now offering 1911 access so it is difficult to determine which site is being used ( a lot easier when it was just FindMyPast)
Am I correct in assuming that these other sites also have the same rules as FindMyPast re: distribution of 1911 info?
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easy enough to check the actual T's & C's.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/using-the-site/terms-and-conditions
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I am sorry if I am breaking any rules, didnt know about this. Thank you everyone for helping me solve where George went to. The one reason I was interested in him (he is my g'fathers brother) is the fact he was a police constable. When I lived in the UK I was a policewoman hence the interest.
Once againa thanks. Brit
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Just had the opportunity to check out the replies. Eliza Margaret Parkes/Perkes Sponder did die in 1897. Where did George go on the 1901 census? He did go to live with with sister Caroline Sparrow later. It is always a puzzle where people go to.
Will investigate further into the Metropolitan Police records, would love to take a trip back to the UK armed with all my info and try and follow up on all things. Brit
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Hi
Just to clarify, the terms and conditions of your membership with FindMyPast state that you can only use the site for your own family research. Doing look-ups for others, even if you don't charge, is breaking the terms of your membership. Posting information you have found by looking at the 1911 census images is not breaking copyright rules, but breaking your membership rules.
You can only post information you have found in the free index of the 1911 census.
Dawn
Well, I said this in a post 3 or 4 days ago, but it got deleted.
Why ?
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Hi Lostris
You've resurrected a topic from 2011.
I'm happy to look further for you but where did you think you posted?
Dawn
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Yes, this topic came up whilst searching for my missing post from Weds/ Thurs of this week to do with 1911 search and post restrictions.
Your explanation was almost identical to what I posted trying to correct someone who said 1911 searches were banned due to Copyright Law - I just wanted to highlight the actual reason being T's & C's - as you have above.
Seems discourteous to just delete a post w/o explanation .....
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I'll send you a personal message
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Much appreciated.