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Title: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: markharrison1973 on Saturday 11 June 11 23:59 BST (UK)
Hi, I was interested to read that Breslin is an easy name to follow. My Great Grandmother was Mary Breslin from Dun laoghaire. Just wondering if you had any info on the Breslins from that area.
Mary Breslin (my great grandmother) was married to Patrick Byrne this is the 1911 census record
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__2/Sarsfield_Street/96602/
Not being that common a name I think I have a copy of her Baptism Cert from 1884 which lists her mother as Mary Breslin with no mention of the father.
In the 1901 census the only likely Mary Breslin I can find is staying with her aunt and uncle James and Cecilia Bryan. The address on both the baptism and the aunt house was Tivoli Avenue.
Sponsors at the baptism were Christopher Kelly and Bridget Breslin.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Moderator Note - split from earlier topic : Toby Bresslin (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,502400.msg3605596.html#msg3605596)
Title: Re: Breslin
Post by: eadaoin on Sunday 12 June 11 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi, I was interested to read that Breslin is an easy name to follow. My Great Grandmother was Mary Breslin from Dun laoghaire. Just wondering if you had any info on the Breslins from that area.

I didn't mean that Breslin was all that easy, but Toby is a very uncommon name, so HE was easy to follow!

I'll have a look at what I have - I've most of the Breslin burials in Deansgrange from about 1887 to 1972, but never looked at the Byrnes.

eadaoin
Title: Re: Breslin & Byrne
Post by: markharrison1973 on Monday 13 June 11 13:31 BST (UK)
Hi thanks for checking them out for me.
Mary Snr had Mary Jnr 1884. Mary Junior was staying with her aunt 1901 so my gut feeling is the her death must have been between these dates.
Mary Jnr had a child Bridget Byrne (my Grandmother) 1917 who I'm told had to be raised by other relatives. Patrick Byrne I'm told died at the end of the war circa 1918, but was killed by a tram or bus or suchlike abroad. I think the mother died not long after but I cant be sure.
I know I've not given much to go on but fingers crossed something comes up.
Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: eadaoin on Tuesday 14 June 11 23:36 BST (UK)
Breslin burials in Deansgrange between August 1887 and May 1905.
I hope to look at earlier ones in the next few weeks.

only 2 I'm afraid .. I WAS careful, but I suppose I could have missed one

April 1892 .. Myles Breslin (48) bricklayer married .. Bath Ave Irishtown

March 1895 .. Mary Breslin (59) widow of Daniel .. 11 Tivoli Ave Kingstown .. burial managed by Patrick Breslin

In the BMDs, there's a Mary Breslin (18) death in 1884 in Rathdown  which includes Dun Laoghaire ... could this be her?

eadaoin
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: markharrison1973 on Tuesday 14 June 11 23:52 BST (UK)
Eadaoin,
Thanks a lot for that.
The Mary Breslin at Tivoli Ave seems right for her mother.
The younger one is far too young.
I'll try and see if the number of Tivoli ties up and
I'll do some research into Patrick and Daniel Breslin  ;D
thanks again.
Mark
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: eadaoin on Monday 04 July 11 21:43 BST (UK)
Breslin
Deansgrange Burials between Nov 1878 and Aug 1887

(I know most of these won't be yours, but including them for completeness)

BRESLIN Kathleen child of Miles Breslin, Merrion .. Dec 1879
BRESLIN Peter child of Myles? Breslin, Merrion .. Mar 1884
BRISLAN Mary (18) servant single, Kingstown ..d. July 1884 (signed Mary Brislan) grave no = A1-71-N
BRESLIN Bridget(70) wife of Andrew Breslin, Sandymount .. June 1886
BRESLIN Jane (7) child of ~~~ Breslin, Booterstown ... April 1887

eadaoin

I've just noticed ...
Mary Brislan(18) above has the same Grave Number as Mary Breslin(59) 1895 in my previous message
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: markharrison1973 on Monday 04 July 11 23:04 BST (UK)
Eadaoin,
Thanks for checking that out for me.
Very Interesting.
Death of younger Mary is less than a year after My Great Grandmother Mary is Born,
Could be post birth complications.
The other Mary could be My Great Grandmothers Grandmother.
Food for thought,
Thanks Again,
Mark
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: markharrison1973 on Saturday 27 August 11 17:12 BST (UK)
Eadaoin,
Im 90% sure that both the Mary Breslins are my Great x 2 and Great x3 grandparents.
Is there any information on whether there is a Headstone at the grave (A1-71-N) and if so has anyone photographed that graveyard that you know of.
Regards

Mark
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: eadaoin on Saturday 27 August 11 17:22 BST (UK)
Mark-

I don't know if there's a headstone, or if there's a photo lurking somewhere.

I was in Deansgrange recently in the North Section, but looking at "W" not "A" - I don't expect to go back again for a while,

eadaoin
Title: Re: Toby Breslin
Post by: markharrison1973 on Monday 29 August 11 14:18 BST (UK)
Eadaoin,
Thanks anyway. I thought i would ask just in case.
I know there are a lot of irish projects to photograph cemeteries because of lack of other resources.
I managed to get the marriage certificates for Mary and her aunt so Im slowly making progress.

Regards

Mark.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Colur on Thursday 01 September 11 15:49 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,
I hope this link works as it is an excellent site. Hopefully it will open in the North Section where I did find reference to a Breslin grave at No. 438. I will hopefully be in the cemetery this coming weekend and will try locate grave No. A1 71 N for you.


http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/1headstones/deansgrange-n03.txt

Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: markharrison1973 on Thursday 01 September 11 16:43 BST (UK)
Hi Colur,
Thanks for that, It worked and ive saved a copy for future reference.
Not sure if its a family like yet, but you never know.
Thanks also for the offer of having a look to see if you can find the grave.
It is much appreciated.
Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: eadaoin on Thursday 01 September 11 18:20 BST (UK)
from the igp site

No.438
 | DESMOND BRESLIN | died 16th July 1924 aged 4½ years |
 | TERESA BRESLIN | died 27th July 1933 |
 | CHARLES BRESLIN | died 16th April 1937 | R.I.P.

from my notes on the Deansgrange Burial Registers ...

Desmond is son of Charles Breslin of Great Clarence St
Teresa is from 16 Macken St
Charles .. I've no Charles, but I've John Breslin 16 Macken St in April 1937
 ... ... (maybe I made an error, as the BMDs give a death for Charles Breslin from Dublin South in Q2 1937)

eadaoin
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Colur on Friday 02 September 11 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,

I dropped in to Deansgrange today and had a quick look for your Ancestors grave.

Check out picture and text No. 430 on the IGP site for the Rourke Family as it is Grave No. 77 - A1 – N so only six graves away from the resting place of your relatives. Unfortunately that whole area is very overgrown and I was unable to find the exact location of Grave No.  71 – A1 – N. hopefully one of the other members might have better luck

This is the Rourke Family headstone. You will note from the site map on the IGP site that there are two North sections. From the main walkway at the offices the graves are numbered in descending order, the higher ones being nearer the gate and the rows lettered from the back to the front so row A is in the centre of the plot, 13 rows in.

(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6279/021xp.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/021xp.jpg/)

Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: markharrison1973 on Friday 02 September 11 21:28 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for trying.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Don Rorke on Friday 30 September 11 21:28 BST (UK)
Hi guys you might want to check out the history of Bray (6 miles south of where you talking about) a Breslin was extremely important to the development of the town as a holiday resort (like Blackpool) from 1880 to 1910, in fact he owned a hotel out here, which is partially still standing, I'm working on a documentary of Bray at the moment so if I can help and if he's link, I would gladly help fill in the gaps :)

Sorry his name was Edward Breslin :)
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Geraldine M on Wednesday 06 March 13 03:56 GMT (UK)
I am a descendant of Edward Breslin, hotelkeeper of Bray and would be interested in any information about him.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Egendorf on Wednesday 06 February 19 17:14 GMT (UK)
Is there in your family tree an "I. W. Breslin" or a "J. W. Breslin" who was related to Edward Breslin the Bray hotel owner, who was living in 1914?  If so, please let me know and I'll send you some information that may be of interest to you.  Thanks, Andy Egendorf (Boston, MA, USA area)
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Geraldine M on Wednesday 06 February 19 22:51 GMT (UK)
I don't know of any I.W. or J.W. Breslin. Edward Breslin had a son J.H. Breslin but he died before 1914. I would be interested though in any information you have.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Egendorf on Wednesday 06 February 19 22:59 GMT (UK)
I have a Dubliners by James Joyce, signed by I or J W. Breslin a week or so after publication.  As you may or may not know, Breslin's Hotel played a part both in Joyce's personal life and in Ulysses.  I am wondering if the Breslin who bought the book (in 1914) was a relative of Edward Breslin.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 February 19 00:15 GMT (UK)
Is this the Edward Breslin of the Royal Marine Hotel who died 1897, son Albert was the informant
Number 420
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05849/4657476.pdf
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 February 19 00:27 GMT (UK)
It appears from the newspapers that Albert Edward Harold Breslin was forced to sell all his father's property
In 1900
In the Matter of the Estate of Edward Breslin
Deceased
Joseph D Cope, Emma Waker and James Rafferty ..Plaintiffs
Albert etc...................................................... Defendant
Also
Pim Brothers Ltd...Plaintiffs
Albert etc.................. Defendant.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 February 19 00:33 GMT (UK)
Albert was born 1875 his mother was Mary Walker
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1876/2125703a.pdf

Edward and Mary married 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11316/8152570.pdf
Number 179
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 February 19 00:48 GMT (UK)
Is John Henry 1877 the JH Breslin
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1877/2104002c.pdf

Isabella Jane 1873
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1873/2177936a.pdf

Maude 1874
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1874/2155744a.pdf
Mary has used her previous married name on some of the births but you can see the note on the side of Maude's giving her name as Walker.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Geraldine M on Thursday 07 February 19 04:51 GMT (UK)
Yes these are the children from Edward Breslin's second marriage in 1872. I am descended from his son Edward from his first marriage. His first wife who died in 1870 was also called Mary. As far as I am aware there are no descendants from the second marriage and only my family from the first. But you may know differently.
Title: Re: Kingstown Breslins
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 07 February 19 08:00 GMT (UK)
I don't know anything about them.
You asked for any information about Edward so I posted what I found.
Is there something in particular about him you hoped to find?