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Title: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Friday 21 October 11 15:39 BST (UK)
Hi all

I am looking for
Thomas Day born Cambridgeshire 1783  married Mary (nee unknown) but Mary  was born in East Halton Lincolnshire.

Children:
Hester Day  dob  1846
Joab Day   dob  1840
John Day   dob  1837

Hester married William Southern
Children (know of)
Kate Southern

Hester then married a COOK?


ANyone who can help with Thomas and Mary (looking for Mary's birth family name) is very much appreciated

Thanks
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 October 11 17:30 BST (UK)
All children were b Lincs

Given Thomas's birthyear - was Mary a second wife as she was only b 1806

Freebmd has a birth in 1840 for a Job Day Glanford Brigg - Lincs - is this him?  1851 shows birthplace for children as Ulceby

It may be advisable to buy a copy of Job's birth cert to get Mary's maiden name

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Thomas Day born Cambridgeshire 1783 


1861 shows birthplace as Bedfordshire
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 October 11 18:21 BST (UK)
1841 shows older children Mary aged 12 and Betsey aged 9 - both b Lincs so any marriage is around 1826-1829
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Friday 21 October 11 19:28 BST (UK)
Thank you Carol

Thomas and Mary Day's daughter Hester was my great great grandmother.

If John was born in 1837 maybe they were married around there.. given they did not have children before which did not survive the census.....

I have also seen bedfordshire, but on ancestry.co.uk census 1851 showing Thomas, Mary, John, Joab and Hester, shows him as Cambridgeshire and I found a Thomas Day of that date from Wisbech, but not sure.

Thanks for your help with this
Sara
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 October 11 20:02 BST (UK)
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If John was born in 1837 maybe they were married around there.. given they did not have children before which did not survive the census.....


Have you seen my reply above re: 1841 census?
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Friday 21 October 11 20:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Carol

If Thomas and Mary had Joab (Job) in 1840 and John in 1837 then if these three children are from this couple, the Mary would have been 32.. that is quite late for first child.. isnt it?

Yes Hester, John and Joab all seem to be from Glanford Briggs Lincs...

Mary is East Heaton?? any idea where that is?

Hmmm interesting... maybe a second marriage
older children Mary aged 12 and Betsey aged 9 - both b Lincs so any marriage is around 1826-1829

Maybe I can get the birth cert of Hester to get Mary's details...

Hester married an older man as well
She married William Blakley Southern and then later married a COOK

William B, Southern born 1826  Hull
Hester born 1846.. 20 years as well...

odd??

thanks
Sara

Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 October 11 20:18 BST (UK)
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Maybe I can get the birth cert of Hester to get Mary's details...

There is an Esther Elizabeth on freebmd in 1846 in Glanford Brigg
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Friday 21 October 11 20:21 BST (UK)
Yeah...

Hester 
Born Hester Day
on Kate Southern's birth cert is says

Esther Southern
Died Cook
Born Day

on her birth stone she is Hetty Cook..

I guess she used all the derivatives of Hester.. :)

thanks
Sara
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 October 11 22:35 BST (UK)
Personally, I would buy a copy of Job's birth cert as it is more likely to be the correct one given the variations in Hesters name
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 October 11 07:32 BST (UK)

I have also seen bedfordshire, but on ancestry.co.uk census 1851 showing Thomas, Mary, John, Joab and Hester, shows him as Cambridgeshire and I found a Thomas Day of that date from Wisbech, but not sure.

The 1851 shows Thomas place of birth as Unknown,  Ancestry has it transcribed as Unknown Lincolnshire but there is no County mentioned on the census so just an assumption.

I would agree with Carol that Job's birth certificate is the best way to go.
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Saturday 22 October 11 08:47 BST (UK)
Yeah you are right

It is hard to know for sure.... best to get birth certificate

I have ancestry records saved... am I able to attach or are there copyright laws that prohibit this.

In the long form for 1851 (people in the house- handwritten) it says cambridge shire for Thomas and East Heaton for Mary...

on this there are only the three children John, Joab and Mary.. guessing Mary and Betsy could have been working / out the house / married...  by then.

Thanks
Sara
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 October 11 12:47 BST (UK)
Hi

This is the 1851 census I was referring to   HO107 Piece 2118 f38 p3
Title: Re: Thomas Day
Post by: pinkgrass on Saturday 22 October 11 13:50 BST (UK)
Thank you, yes Rosie that is the one I have too.


I am trying to think where I saw cambridgeshire now.. I am sure I did !!
But yes, this is the info I have too.