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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: victormeldrew001 on Tuesday 01 November 11 06:45 GMT (UK)
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I have a fair bit of information about Arthur Rushton but am trying to find out about Gertrude Eleanor Sutton. She is believed to have been born in Horstead, Norfolk c1895 (but no birth certificate seems to exist so she may well have been a Lancashire/Liverpool girl). She married Arthur Rushton 28 Oct 1915 at Everton Emmanual and lived in West Derby/Norris Green [Liverpool/Lancashire] for the remainder of her life. She died 26 Jun 1958.
In particular, does anyone know of Gertrude's early life? Can you confirm her birth day and place?
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat .
The marriage lists her father as George so looking at 1901 census there is one in Norfolk ....
Gertrude E Sutton b @1896 Horstead Norfolk.
Do you know what her father did for a living to confirm a match?
George Sutton hd m 40 farmer b Lamas Norfolk
Harriett A wi m 44 b Griston
Eva M dau u 10 Horstead
George E H son u 9 "
Katherine A dau u 7 "
Gertrude E dau u 5 "
Ruth E Hunt serv u 18
Milvina Preston serv u 23
Living Buxton Norfolk RG13/1830 F 109 P15
worth considering a Gertrude Ellen Sutton birth?
have found the 2 names changable.
Tazzie
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Hi there
Welcome to Rootschat! :D
Likely birth?......
Name:Gertrude Ellen Sutton
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district:St Faith's
Norfolk
Volume:4b
Page:93
Ties in with 1901 census entry and the following baptism http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/documents.php?district_id=19&document_id=28369
Sarah :)
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Her birth registration ....?
Gertrude Ellen Sutton oct/nov/dec 1895
St Faiths registration district.
this covered Horstead with Stanninghall until 1938.
Tazzie
snap
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Hi,
I notice on the marriage certificate her father was a Soldier.
There is a birth for Gertrude Eleanor Sutton registered in Poona India in 1894 on the GRO Army Births Index page 435 .
Mo
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Hi,
I notice on the marriage certificate her father was a Soldier.
There is a birth for Gertrude Eleanor Sutton registered in Poona India in 1894 on the GRO Army Births Index page 435 .
Mo
Dear Tazzie and Sarah
Much appreciate your help, and thanks for welcoming me to rootschat!
I do not have any information about her parents or her siblings. The tip about Ellen being a synonym for Eleanor is well taken so Gertrude Ellen Sutton seems a distinct possibility. However, I am also aware that they are not always used synonymously.
Thanks!
Dear Mo
I have heard it rumoured that Gertrude Eleanor Sutton spent some time in India but dismissed it. Your identification of Poona India is very interesting!
Sorry if this is lame but how do I check 'GRO Army Births Index page 435'? Is it accessible on The National Archives or Ancestry sites? I am new to family history.
Thanks!
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Hi,
The GRO Army Birth Indices and other overseas records are free to search on www.familyrelatives.com . You have to register first though, but it`s free.
There is a Gertrude Sutton aged 16 showing on the free 1911 census index born Poona India and living in the West Derby District, Lancashire. You would have to buy credits to view the full details.
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?4 and click on "show advanced fields"
Mo
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Hi,
You will find Getrude E living in Dover Kent on the the 1901 census aged 6 born Poona India with mother Annie, 32, born Colchester Essex, sister Annie 13 born Kensington London and Brother George A(lbert) aged 9 born Agra India.
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Hi Mo ....
An Annie Sutton was a Witness at the wedding so your hunch about the India link looks good.
Tazzie
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Hi Mo
Found her on the censuses! I think she is indeed the one I am looking for.
Still having problems with GRO Army Births Index page 435. I have registered at familyrelatives.com and am at:
Browse Overseas Records 1761-1981 / Army Birth Indices
However, I cannot see Gertrude Eleanor Sutton.
Where do you get page 435 from?
Really grateful for your kind assistance.
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Hi,
Apologies, I have only just seen your last post. Have you found her by now?
Select GRO Army Birth Indices
Select year 1891 to 1895
Click on the letter S
Click on image for the entries:
STEWART Wynne Edyth THORNE May Ethel
Gertrude is listed halfway down the left hand side.
Mo
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Hi,
Apologies, I have only just seen your last post. Have you found her by now?
Select GRO Army Birth Indices
Select year 1891 to 1895
Click on the letter S
Click on image for the entries:
STEWART Wynne Edyth THORNE May Ethel
Gertrude is listed halfway down the left hand side.
Mo
Ah! I see the logic now. Yes, have located her. Thanks for your patient explanation.
May I trouble you with one final question: How do I order the birth certificate? I know how to order regular birth certificates from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
but how does one order an Army BC?
Heaps of thanks.
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I honestly don`t know about ordering overseas certificates but you can contact the GRO an ask:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp
Mo
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I honestly don`t know about ordering overseas certificates but you can contact the GRO an ask:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp
Mo
Thanks, Mo.
I just spotted a FAQ:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/faqs-overseas.asp
Will give it a shot!
Thanks once again.