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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Sutherland => Topic started by: gumball on Friday 09 December 11 23:58 GMT (UK)
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:) :) :) :) I am searching for details of Murdoch McKenzie would married Elizabeth Morrison on 28th March, 1845, in Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland.
I have only found two children from that marriage; Mary McKenzie born 13th April, 1857 and Neil McKenzie born 6th May, 1859.
I'm sure there must have been more children born the previous twelve years.
Mary McKenzie married Frederick Ballard in 1882.
I would also like to trace Murdoch McKenzie ... date of birth; place of birth etc.
Thank you for your assistance and Merry Christmas.
Gumball
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I haven't a clue whether this is the right couple - first 2 children b Sutherland and ages fit an 1845 marriage
1851 for Kiltearn Ross & Cromarty
Murdoch McKenzie 27 b Kilmorak Ross - agric labourer
Eliza 28 b Dornoch
Loucia 5 ditto (?? Louisa)
Robert 4 b Golspie Sutherland
Isabella 2 b Aberdeen
Kiltearn ED 2 Page 5 Line 11
No IGI entries for children to check Eliza's maiden name and I can't find them in 1861
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Thank you for your reply. This could be Murdoch and Elizabeth.
I have found Elizabeth Morrison born 15th November, 1822, Dornoch, Sutherland, Scotland, father: Neil Morrison.
They have named one of their son's Neil 5th May, 1859 (after his grandfather?).
Still looking for Murdoch McKenzie born Kilmorak, Ross and Cromarty about 1823..
Gumball :D :D :D
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Hi Gumball
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~coigach/contacts.htm
you will find Mc Kenzie (murdoch) , McLeod and Kerr families Ross and Cromarty.
Lorraine :-*
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I tried to send email to Roddy McKenzie but it was returned. Didnt see any other site which would help me.
Thanks for your reply. :D
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~coigach/n41reiff.htm
a lot of info there like above . There is a Murdoch McKenzie.
This is where I found my gg granmother Christina Kerr
::)
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Problem - Murdoch McKenzie was a very popular name in Ross & Cromarty so there are many of them on the IGI born around the same time
A copy of his death cert will give his parents names but that presents a further problem. Unless they can be found on a later census, how do you narrow down a possible death period?
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I done alot of reading since my last post but still no luck. As Murdoch was a Ag. Lab his could have moved around alot so could have died anywhere.
On one search engine I tried it came up with over 33,000 Murdoch McKenzies, so I think I maybe looking for a "needle in a haystack".
I'll keep the Message active for another week just in case someone connects him through his wife, Elizabeth Morrison. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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I wonder if this is them in 1871??? birthyears ok but birthplaces and occupation ??........
7 Tower St Midlothian
Murdock McKenzie 45 b Urray Ross shire - joiner - NB Railway
Elizabeth 46 b Dornock Linlithgowshire
Robert 24 b Dornock
Donald 16 b Govan Lanarkshire
Mary 13 b Govan
Ann 10 b Govan
Murdock 9 b England
John Campbell 22 boarder b Dornock - Sutherland
William Lees 21 b Duddingston Midlothian
Robert A Downe 23 b England
Duddingsto ED 5 Page 15 Line 21
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Hi
I'm a wee bit confused as you say that Murdo(ch) was a labourer but on Mary's marriage cert(St Giles, Edinburgh, 1882), he is listed as a joiner. Neither Murdoch nor Elizabeth are listed as deceased at that time.
I then looked at the 1871 and found this family:
7 Tower Street, Duddington, Midlothian
684/1 5 15
Murdock Mckenzie, 45, joiner NB Railway, b. Urray, Rossshire
Elizabeth, w, 46, b. Dornoch, Sutherland
Robert, s, 24, porter, NB railway, b. -do-
Donald, s, 16, plumber boy railway, b. Govan
Mary, d, 13, b. -do-
Ann, d, 10, b. -do-
Murdock, s, 9, b. England
John Campbell, boarder, 22, painter NB Railway, b. Dornoch, Sutherland
William Laas ?, boarder, 21, joiner NB railway, b. Duddington
Robert A Downie, boarder, 23, painter NB Railway, b. England
So suggest that you look around Edinburgh for them. Although, as he worked on the North British, they might have moved again.
Urray, Ross -shire is just to the north of Kilmorack which is in Invernessshire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ROC/Urray/index.html
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/INV/Kilmorack/index.html
gnu
Just been investigating it on SP, Carole - those transcriptions had got it wrong yet again re birthplaces - I don't trust them :-X
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They were in Cumberland England in 1861 - all McKenzies just shown as born Scotland except Ann
Murdock McKenzie 35 joiner
Elizabeth 36
Louisa 15
Robert 14
Isabella 12
Donald 7
Mary 4
Neal 1
Ann 2 months b Cumberland
Plus boarders - all b Scotland except John Folly and all shown as railway labourers
Peter Bonnar 24
Price Bonnar 19
Donald Davidson 25
Alexander Pearson 17
John Folley 23 b Ireland
Jemima Folly 21
RG9 Piece 3922 Folio 29 Page 8
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Hi Gnu
Re: Murdoch's occupation
That 1851 entry I posted shows him as an agricultural labourer and I think Gumball was quoting from that entry rather than the marriage cert
The children in 1861 link with the 1851 entry so I think I have the right family. Neal/Neil is the clincher in 1861
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In 1881 - Murdoch is a patient in Edinburgh Insane Asylum
St George ED Edinburgh Insane Asylum Page 17
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Hi Carole - I went off and investigated further - the 1851 ties up with the 1871 family. Found this -
Murdoch Mackenzie died of TB (10 years) 13 January 1887 at the Royal Asylum, Morningside, Edinburgh (usual residence- Portobello). Aged 62. Married to Elizabeth Morrison.
Parents- Donald Mackenzie, Mason, deceased and Annie, m.s. Mackenzie, deceased.
gnu
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Excellent - I can't find Elizabeth in 1881 at the moment so wonder if she died in Midlothian between 1871-1881
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Don't see a death for Elizabeth in Midlothian - will look further afield.
gnu
The 1887 death cert has her still alive
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Found a death in 1901, Elizabeth McKenzie, other name Morrison- Leith North, Midlothian - aged 73.
I put a wider age range in!
Will leave gumball to get that one!
gnu
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Thank you, thank you - that's amazing. I really thought I wouldn't find him or his parents.
I'll go forward now and get the Death Certificates.
Thanks again for all your help.
Merry Christmas and Happy 2012. ;) ;)
Gumball
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gumball i am related . have copies of original certificates birth marriage etc.
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