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Title: COMPLETE MANY THANKSJohn Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Monday 12 December 11 19:12 GMT (UK)

Looking for some more information on  John he was born around 1854 in Scotland could have been Perthshire or Forfarshire

son of George Findlay and Janet Isles Campbell  ( the spelling of the surname varies) I  have very little on him he left Scotland

apparently around 1875/ 1876 and headed for  Pennsylvania . Whether he stayed there or went elsewhere I don't know.

Any help or futher information on him much appreciated.

Regards,

suzilad


Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

Merry Christmas.

John Campbell served on HMS Black Prince; jumped ship in Philadelphia

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a10434&id=I692

Could this be your John - 1900 Moundville, Hale, Alabama.

John Findlay 45 Born Scotland. Immigrated 1875. Parents born Scotland. Married 1881. Farmer
Louisa Findlay 38 Born Scotland. Had 9 children and 9 survive.
John Findlay 18 Born PA. Farm Labourer
Aelee Findlay 16 Born PA Farm Labourer
Addie Findlay 15 Born PA. Clerk. General
Wess Findlay 13 Born Alabama, Clerk. General
Louisa Findlay 10 Born Alabama
Kate Findlay 8 Born Alabama
Mary Findlay 6 Born Alabama
Jim Findlay 3 Born Alabama
Elsie Findlay 1 Born Alabama
Walton Mouchatte 20 Boarder.
J K English 50 Boarder


Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:38 GMT (UK)
Alabama Deaths show :- John Findley. Died 21 April 1909 Hale. Alabama
Volume: 7  - Certificate: 266  -Roll: 1

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:43 GMT (UK)
Moundville, Hale, Alabama in 1910

Louisa H Findley 47 Born Scotland. Widowed. Farmer. General Farm.
Adder Findley 29 Born Pa
Kate Findley 18 Born PA
Mary Findley 16 Born PA
Elsie Findley 11 Born PA
George Findley 8 Born PA

Wess Findlay and his family live next door.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:48 GMT (UK)
Margaret Louise Heggie and John Campbell Findlay -Married: 5 Feb 1881 in Philadelphia, PA


http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a10434&id=I696

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:51 GMT (UK)
John Findlay - Born  November 5, 1855 and died April 21, 1909

Burial: Carthage Presbyterian Church Cemetery.  Moundville. Hale County. Alabama.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0idl/


Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 20:53 GMT (UK)
Son Wesley Powers Findlay

Born:  May 4, 1887 Powers. Hale County Alabama. Died May 8, 1927 Moundville
Hale County Alabama.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0idn/

Burial: Carthage Presbyterian Church Cemetery. Moundville. Hale County Alabama.

Wesley Findlay Born abt 1882  Alabama Died 8 May 1927 aged 45 years  Jasper, Walker, Alabama
Burial - 9 May 1927  Moundville, Alabama
Occupation: Farmer - Married Gender: Male. Resided-Tuscaloosa
Father  John Findlay  -Scotland
Mother Born Scotland - Scotland


Wife:- Verlie Eugenia Hall Findlay.

Birth:  Sep. 10, 1891 - Moundville -Hale County Alabama.
Death:  Nov. 21, 1989 Moundville Hale County Alabama.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0idm/


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ido/




Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 21:02 GMT (UK)
Louisa Findlay died 2 November 1941 - Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDBT-HP6

Found Anc tree on the family

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Monday 12 December 11 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hello Sandra,
                    How are you and a very Merry Christmas :)

Yes that could be him his mother Janet Isles was born in Airlie you have done it again come up trumps


Thank you

suzilad
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 12 December 11 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

Your very welcome.

You can search for public tree entries - and contact owners of public trees - on www.mundia.com -  which is a sister site to Anc.

Sandra

Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Monday 12 December 11 21:24 GMT (UK)

Sandra

I am amazed that he ended up in Alabama somewhere different for the family tree.

Just discovered this afternoon another ancestor was born in Corfu in c 1849 wonder if that is why I love holidaying in Greece so much.


Thanks again  you are a star  ;D

suzilad
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 13 December 11 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

WW1 Draft for son John shows middle name of Heggie - John Heggie Findlay. Born 5 December 1881. Works in a telephone exchange. Nearest relative is wife Lenna.
John was tall, slender, brown eyes and dark hair.
Dated September 12 th 1918

John, Lenna and famiy in 1920 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX89-4J5

and 1930 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/3N31-DT2

1910 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKQL-27N

Lenna (Juanita) Death record - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JY2V-KM4

Carthage Presbyterian Cemetery

http://www.trackingyourroots.com/data/haleco.html

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 13 December 11 11:17 GMT (UK)
Alabama Deaths show - John Higgie Findlay. Born 1881 and died aged 65 years.  7th December 1946. Married 
Father - John C Findlay Mother - Margaret L Heggie - Wife Lenna Findlay


Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Tuesday 13 December 11 14:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks once again Sandra.

I found this on Find a Grave

James Blair Findlay b29 July 1896 died 22 Aug 1900
George Mayfield Findley b Nov 2 1901 died March 12 1920
also buried in Carthage Cemetery also there are  Wesley his wife and their daughter Louisa.

Regards,
suzilad
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 10:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

Excellent.  The SSDI shows Elsie Thigpen. Born 13 November 1898 and died November 977
SSN: 414-32-6891
Last Residence: 35226  Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama,
Last Benefit: 35233  Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama, 
SSN was issued in Tennessee (Before 1951)

Obituary in the Metro Section. Page 61 - 30 November 1977 Birmingham. Alabama
Publication Place: Birmingham, Alabama, United States

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 17:16 GMT (UK)
Daughter Adeline Lovett Findlay born 1885 married Carl Peter Leibold 17 September 1916 Birmingham. jefferson. Alabama.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQHM-X6D

Carl Peter Leibold. Born 1882 Alabama. Died 22 June 1954 aged 72 years.
father Anton Leibold. Mother Emma Deshler. Wife Adeline Findlay Leibold.

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 17:17 GMT (UK)
1920 Census - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX8D-XKG

1930 Census - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/32L1-P2M

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 17:21 GMT (UK)
Adaline F Leibold - [Adaline F Findley] Born 22 July 1885 and died 22 july 1973 Birmingham. Jefferson. Alabama aged 88 years
 
Father  John Findley and Mother  Margaret Heggie

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 19:03 GMT (UK)
Thomas - son of Wesley and Verlie

Thomas H. Findlay - born 16 February 1910 and died 26 May 1999
Last Residence: 35406  Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa, Alabama,
SSN was issued in Alabama (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 19:06 GMT (UK)
Wesley - son of Wesley and Verlie.

Wesley Findlay
Born 6 th January 1913 and died January 1987
Last Residence: 35401  Tuscaloosa, Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
SSN was issued in Alabama (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 14 December 11 19:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
                   You certainly have been busy thank you.

I found this is on family search

Louisa H. Findlay marriage to Max Howell 14 June 1906 in Hale Alabama.

suzilad  :)
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

Yes, I saw that one but after a quick look at census, couldn't find her to verify it was the daughter of John and Margaret Louise.

There is a George Findlay born 1849 Scotland who marries Lucy Mayfield in Alabama in 1899 - would he belong to your Findlay clan  ???

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQDP-9JD

This is George in 1900 - Greensboro, Hale, Alabama.

George Findlay 51 Born Scotland May 1849.  Immigrated 1871. NA. Married 1899. Merchant. Hdware.
Lucy Findlay 29 Born November 1871. Had 0 children.
Jerry Holt 35 Servant.
Robert Hunt 17 Boarder.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M98L-8JY

They are also in Greensboro in 1910


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKQL-SDT

Lucy is widowed by 1920

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX8M-DT9

and 1930 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/3N9M-JW2

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:27 GMT (UK)
Death of George Campbell Findlay - 4 November 1913


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JD8G-28L
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ifv/

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
Food for thought - so will post just incase.
Perhaps this is another coincidence but there is a George Findlay, birth year 1849 Scotland married to a Margaret and living in Philadelphia in 1880 and one of his children is called Lovett.
In reply 15 we had Adeline Lovett Findlay (daughter of John and Margaret Louise)  ::)

Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1880

George Findley 31 Born Scotland. Rope Maker.
Margaret Findley 33 Born Scotland.
George Findley 11 Born Scotland.
Charles Findley 9 Born PA
Lovett Findley 5 Born PA

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:49 GMT (UK)
In 1900 Philadelphia Ward 37, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The description for Margaret could read D = divorce or it could be a very bad Wd for widowed.  ???


Charles Findlay 26 Head. Born PA
Margaret Findlay 52 Mother. Born May 1847 Scotland. Had 3 children and 3 living. Housekeeper.
Lovett Findlay 21 Born PA. Machinist.
Eugene Kerrigan 32 Boarder.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3W5-55V

Sandra

 
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 20:54 GMT (UK)
Same family 1910 Philadelphia Ward 37, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Lovett Findlay 31 Born PA. Head. Machinsit. Machine Tools.
Margaret Findlay 63 Born Scotland. Mother. Married 1 for 42 years Had 3 children 2 survived
Eugene Kerrigan 46 Boarder.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGQM-H1X

Suspect Margaret died between 1910 and 1920 because Lovett Findlay and Eugene Kerrigan are the only ones that show n 1920 and 1930
1920 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF1J-T63
1930 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHWG-QTN

Lovett Findlay  - Born: 5 Dec 1878 and Died: Nov 1951
SSN was issued in Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 14 December 11 22:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
                I believe the George Findlay you refer to in your replies 21/22 is John Campbell Findlays brother who

was born in Blairgowrie Perthshire c 1849 . The son of George Findlay and Janet ( Janey or Jessie Findlay m.s. Campbell )as it

was all pre 1855 I  have as yet been unable to find certs. but I do know that George registered his grandfathers death in 1865 Dundee.

The other George you posted just in case  at the moment I am not sure of . The other Findlays in this tree travelled the world

ended up all over the place.

As yet I have not found  a birth for Margaret Lovett or a marriage to George but tomorrow is another day.

Once again thank you very very much.

Your are a star and all this is much appreciated. ;D

suzilad :)
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 14 December 11 23:04 GMT (UK)
In reply 21 I just put a link to the 1910 census but I began to wonder what information it gave with regard to how many marriages George Campbell Findlay in particular had  - so this is the detail.  The immigration date would fit with the George in Pennsylvania and perhaps that D is for divorce for Margaret on the 1900 Census  ???

Greensboro, Hale, Alabama in 1910

Georgie Findlay 60 Immigrated 1871. Marriage 2 for 10 years. Plummer Electric Co.
Lucy M Findlay 40 Born Alabama.

Sandra


Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Thursday 15 December 11 16:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
                 George Findlay and Margaret also had a son Charles b c 1871 in Pennsylvania well eventually I tracked him down
he died in Philadelphia Pennsylvania on 11 September 1907 he was single his father George Findlay mother Margaret McHardie
they were married in 1868 Dundee Scotland their son George born there in 1869.
George on the marriage certificate  is George Campbell Findlay son of Andrew Findlay and Janet Campbell he is actually a cousin of  John Campbell Findlay who I was searching for at the start of this forum.

Regards,

suzilad
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 15 December 11 17:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Suzilad,

Excellent - thought there was some sort of a link but didn 't have time to investigate further today. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more Findlay connections in the USA.  8)

Sandra
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: HannahB on Thursday 15 December 11 18:29 GMT (UK)
I live in Tuscaloosa, (Tuscaloosa county) Alabama, which is immediately north of Hale county and just a few miles from Moundville and a few more miles from Greensboro.  If there is anything I can do to help from this end I would be glad to do so though it does seem as if you are doing very well without me!
Btw there are lots of Findley, Findlay, Finley etc. families here and also Mayfields. Some of them may be able to help you also (if we can find the right one.)
Let me know if there is nything I can do (after the holidays.) Happy Christmas!  HB
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: suzilad on Thursday 15 December 11 21:43 GMT (UK)

Thank you so very very much Hannah how kind of you to offer your  help. I shall definately be in contact with you after the

holidays .

I have up till now never found any ancestors in Alabama plenty of other places around the world some of whom without the

help of other  Rooters" help and advice I would never have found.

Have "A Very Merry Christmas " and  "A Guid New Year " catch up with you in 2012.

Regards,

suzilad in a very cold ,wet and windy Scotland.  :)
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: HannahB on Friday 16 December 11 16:17 GMT (UK)
Great.  I will wait to hear from you....from a wet but (relatively) warm Alabama.  Hannah
Title: Re: John Campbell Findley/Finley
Post by: Lisaw257 on Sunday 16 May 21 17:23 BST (UK)
Hello...I'm writing to clarify the information regarding Carl Peter Leibold (my great uncle). He was born to Anton Leibold and Emma Gottschall Leibold on 18 Apr 1882 in Peru, LaSalle County, Illinois. He married Adaline Lovett Findley in Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama on 17 Sep 1916. Carl Peter Leibold died in Birmingham, Jefferson County, Alabama on 22 Jun 1954 and is buried in Elmwood Cemetery in Birmingham, Alabama. He earned his degree in Electrical Engineering from Ohio State University. Thought that this post could use additional information. Feel free to reach out to me.

Daughter Adeline Lovett Findlay born 1885 married Carl Peter Leibold 17 September 1916 Birmingham. Jefferson. Alabama.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQHM-X6D

Carl Peter Leibold. Born 1882 Alabama. Died 22 June 1954 aged 72 years.
father Anton Leibold. Mother Emma Deshler. Wife Adeline Findlay Leibold.

Sandra