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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Oxfordshire => England => Oxfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lmscully on Monday 09 January 12 19:35 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I am in the US searching for information on my great-grandfather (x3), EDWARD MILES (1834 - 1913). I managed to track him back to Oxfordshire, but that is where my information ends. I hope to find out more information about his parents, siblings, etc. I don't even know their names. If anyone can find information on my grandmother's last name, that would be greatly appreciated.
Name: Edward Miles
Event: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Birthplace: Oxfordshire
Registration District: Witney
County: Oxfordshire
Married: Elizabeth/Elisabeth (last name unknown)
Immigrated to US: 1873
1880 US Census
Edward Miles, 46
Spouse Elisabeth C. Miles, 46
Child John H. Miles, 15
Child Edward S. Miles, 13
Child Henry James Miles, 9
Child George D. Miles, 5
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Hi
Here's the family in 1841
Corn Street, Witney
MILES, Willm M 55 Ag Lab Oxfordshire
MILES, Elizabeth F 35 Not born in county
MILES, Charlotte F 15 Oxfordshire
MILES, Harriett F 14 Oxfordshire
MILES, Charles F 12 Oxfordshire
MILES, Edward M 6 Oxfordshire
MILES, Elizabeth F 3 Oxfordshire
MILES, Jane F 0 (1 months) Oxfordshire
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In 1851 he is with Joseph Haines at Ramsden, Shipton
MILES, Edward Journeyman Unmarried M 16 Shoemaker Witney Oxon
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In 1841 Charles is also an Ag Lab: but I can't for the life of me make out the occupation of Charlotte and Harriett!
Cati
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Sorry, forgot to welcome you to Rootschat. :) :)
Jan
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Hi, is this your Edward in 1871:-
Edward Miles 35 occ Ag Lab b Kingsland, Herefordshire
Elizabeth C 34 b Llanghihangel, Radnorshire
John E 6 b Kingsland
Edward S 5 b Kingsland
Henry J 4 months b Kingsland
Residing at Shirlheath, Kingsland
Census Ref RG10/2719/10/13
Keyboard86
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This could be John's birth - the certificate would give you his mother's surname
Births Sep 1864
MILES John Edwin Leominster 6a 499
Kingsland came under the registration district of Leominster
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This could be the marriage, from Freebmd http://www.freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Sep 1863
ANTHONY Emma Knighton 11b 258
Davies Elizabeth Caroline Knighton 11b 258
Matthews Herbert Morris Knighton 11b 258
Miles Edward Knighton 11b 258
Does look a good possible because of where she was born according to the 1871 census and the fact that she is Elizabeth Caroline
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You folks are AMAZING. I can't believe you were able to find so much information in just a few minutes. I have been searching for this information for years! I am just stunned. Thrilled, but stunned. Thank you all SO MUCH!
Elizabeth Caroline Davies is probably the correct one. My Great-Grandfather's middle name was 'Davis', but I have seen it spelled a few places as 'Davies'!
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Here is Elizabeth's family in 1841
HO107; Piece 1455; Book: 2;
Llanfihangel Beguildy Lower Beguildy Knighton Radnorshire Wales
James Davies 49 Farmer
Elizabeth Davies 39
James Thomas Davies 10
Mary Ann Davies 8
Elizabeth Caroline Davies 7
Sally Anna Davies 6
Harriot Sharlotte Davies 3
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I have never seen the family names before. It was always a brick wall for us. Amazing.
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Hi, forgot to welcome you to Rootschat!
This looks to be Edward in 1841:-
James MIELS 45 occ Ag Lab Not born in County
Ann 40 Not born in County
John 12 Not born in County
Richard 10
Ann 9
Edward 7
William 2
Residing at Brust Mill?, Kingsland, Herefordshire
Census Ref HO107/426/ 15/8/ 13
On 1851 Ann snr is shown as Hannah aged 54 b Burknell Shropshire and is now a Widow
Census Ref HO107/1981/379/13
Keyboard86
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I wonder if we have got the right family then? I thought I'd found him in 1841 in Whitney where Imscully said he was born, see reply #1 Have we got them muddled?
I think we may be on the wrong track :'( :'( :'( Edward was a journey man shoemaker in 1851, would he then have become an ag lab?
Imscully - what was his occupation when he emigrated?
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I don't have the actual immigration documents, but he is also listed as 'farmer' in everything I can find in the US.
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Then I wonder if you have the wrong one being born in Oxfordshire - how do you know that he came from there?
There is an Edward Miles born Whitney (possibly the one I gave you in the first posts) but he is still in Whitney in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census and is described as an army pensioner/shoemaker in 1891. He is married to an Ann and died in Whitney in 1909.
It looks as if the one born in Kingsland could be yours though. What do you think keyboard86 and Cati?
Jan
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Hi Jan, their look to be too many "hits" that make the Herefordshire Edward the correct one?
Keyboard86
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I think we can rule out the Whitney shoemaker one as he died in England. The family you gave in 1871 matches with the family in the 1880 US census. It looks as if we are right from reply #5 onwards, unless Imscully has proof he was born in Oxfordshire.
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Then I wonder if you have the wrong one being born in Oxfordshire - how do you know that he came from there?
There is an Edward Miles born Whitney (possibly the one I gave you in the first posts) but he is still in Whitney in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census and is described as an army pensioner/shoemaker in 1891. He is married to an Ann and died in Whitney in 1909.
It looks as if the one born in Kingsland could be yours though. What do you think keyboard86 and Cati?
Jan
I was following the suggestion that he was born in Oxfordshire, but I think that this was the wrong track....
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It was always the family 'lore' that Edward and Elizabeth originated in Oxfordshire. That was one thing we knew about them. I know that both were born in 1834 because I tend their grave.
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I think you need to try and find any immigration documents as that might tell you more.