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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: Linda Corbett on Sunday 12 February 12 11:27 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to trace my family of Corbetts back to Nenagh in Tipperary. It is quite difficult as they are mostly named William Corbett! My grandfather is William Henry Corbett born 1896 in St Pancras London, his father was also William Corbett born 1871 in Nenagh Tipperary, and there I get a little stuck as there seem to be a lot of William Corbetts born around the same time. I believe they lived in Spout Street, from information given but not confirmed. Have you any information that can help me?
Linda
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Welcome to Rootschat :D
Are William Henry's parents, William and Louisa Annie (Johnson).
If so, according to marriage certificate, William's father is also William ::) but he is a shoemaker which may help to trace him.
regards
heywood
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There is this family in 1891:
4 Clarendon Street St Pancras
William Corbett head 45 yrs Shoemaker b Limerick
Elizabeth wife 32 yrs b London St Pancras
William 19 yrs Brass founder b Limerick
The occupations fit for father and son but now we are in Limerick. Also looks to be a second marriage for dad.
This family has other children. Elizabeth Urling and William Corbett married in 1884- you would get his father's name from the marriage certificate.
1881 has a William, Bootmaker who is a widower but no sign of young William.
On a published tree, William snr's wife is named as Mary Condon
Family Search has this marriage: Condon/Corbett (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZ8-G56)
so you still have a William - is that what you meant? Do you have all this information?
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Thanks for the very quick reply! I did know some of this but wasnt sure I had it correctly linked up, probably because of the 2nd marriage. You have helped clarify that for me. Yes we do still have a William Corbett, seems we cant have a generation without at least one! I am now trying to find William Corbett born 1844, but this seems not to have been in Nenagh. How far back is it possible to go with Irish ancestors? I started at the other end of the chain as it where and had my brother DNA tested, his results proved we were Irish back to the bone, so at least I know I am not barking up the wrong tree as far as area is concerned. Many thanks for the help.
Linda
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The Condon/Corbett marriage is 1869 Nenagh Vol 3 pg 569
You already have the fathers' names but it might give a townland for William.
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Griffiths Valuation has a David Condon -townland Dublin Road Civil Parish Nenagh and a William Corbett, Ball Alley Lane Nenagh.
They may not be yours of course.
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Thats very interesting thank you for that I will take a look.
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Do you also have the birth of Bridget Corbett 1869 to William and Mary (Condon)- from Family Search?
There is a death for a Mary Corbett in 1876, Pancras aged 30 years - I wonder if that is her?
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No I hadnt found Bridget. Mary died quite young as William Corbett remarried an Elizabeth Urling in London. I thought Mary Condon wouldnt be that common a name or Elizabeth Urling but they both are, this geneology is tricky!
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Graveyard in Silvermines, Nenagh Tipperary (headstones)
Josehine Cahalan (nee Corbett)
Ballyluskey Ardcroney; 20/3/2005
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Martin Corbett; White Walls Nenagh
4/2/1889
wife-Mary;
4/3/1918
their great grandson-Martin Corbett;
11/5/1930 (9)
their son-Pat;
June 1941
his wife-Nora;
Sept 1963
their son-Michael;
Aug 1970
their son-Martin;
June 1957
his wife-Lizzie;
Dec 1974
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Daniel Corbett; Knockanpierce Nenagh
13/9/1978 (62)
wife-Winifred;
31/10/1985 (66)
dre-Mary;
25/9/1951 (6 months)
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John Corbett; O Rahilly st Nenagh
6/2/1967 (80)
wife-Margaret;
26/11/1967 (82)
Nora Kelly; 10/10/1941
Kate Mc Cormack; 4/1/1952
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James Corbett; Upperchurch & London
9/12/1996 (68)
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Jack
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Hi , my dad lived in Camden London early 1930s with his granddad William henry Corbett and granny Louisa annie Corbett, nee Johnson, he remembers him having a soft irish accent, and that he came from tipperery.
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I believe that the listing of headstones above are also relatives of mine. My grandmother, Ellen Josephine Corbett was the daughter of Patrick and Nora Corbett (Gleason).
As far as I'm told, she was the youngest of 18 and some sibling names are John, James, Martin, Mary Kate, Patrick and Anne. Looks as though by census, they may have lived on Whitewalls Street in Nenagh at one time.
I would love to connect with someone who has more information on the family. Ellen came to the US to live with brother John in Boston around 1925 (?).
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
Ellen Josephine Corbett born c1912 according to her marriage record-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLDG-8BB
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDKQ-K8M
Ellen would have been born just after 1911 census was taken but if this is the correct family then there would have been only 5 older children-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Nenagh_West_Urban/Whitewalls_Street/821144
Same family 10 years earlier-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Nenagh_West_Urban/White_Walks_Road/1698300
Birth for Ellen Corbett 6 July 1912- mother Gleeson:
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/488f8b0245928
Some possible siblings-
Mary (1901) http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8fa3f21397336
Patrick (1904) http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c4b4481095109
Anne (1905) http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/45059c0917125
James (1911) http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f72ca70377686
Perhaps the '18 children' were a generation further back?
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WOW! Thank you so much for that response. This is definitely my grandmother and her family. Perhaps the large number of children were from another time? I guess I'll be finding that information out as I go along in my journey of her ancestry! :)
I also believe that there were more children and that they were already gone from the home when this census would have been done? My mother remembers her saying that she was the youngest of 18. Her brother was already in the US when she came here at age 13 and sponsored her. He was older and already married at the time.
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HI there, my greatgrandad was william henry Corbett, his father was also WH from ball alley lane in Nenargh, he was a shoemaker he came to england in the late 19thcent, and after his frist wife mary condon died he married
elizabthe Urling, they had another William Henry who married a Louisa Annie Johnson in Camden London, they had my granny Henrietta Corbett in 1906, and she married Albert Edward Teague in 1927, when the had my dad also Albert EDward Teague, Could this be the same family. My dad remembered an uncle who was a boxer in america called gentleman Jim. HOpe this of help. Best wishes Karen Missen nee Teague
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... I also believe that there were more children and that they were already gone from the home when this census would have been done? My mother remembers her saying that she was the youngest of 18. Her brother was already in the US when she came here at age 13 and sponsored her. He was older and already married at the time.
I'm afraid that the family story might be a bit confused here. If you look again at the 1911 census link I posted earlier and click on the box 'show all information' (or look at the scanned image itself) you will see that Nora was married 12 years (c1899) and had had 5 children all of who were still living. The 5 children are all in the household that night- Martin, Mary Kate, Patrick, Anne, James. Your grandmother Ellen was born the following year in 1912 making her child #6. Searching the Irish Genealogy site for civil records (births, marriages, deaths) I found the births of Ellen and 4 older siblings which fits with the census.
Will have a look for parents' marriage and Martin's birth in a minute.
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Parish registers for Nenagh are only up until 1880s. Not recent enough for your grandmother's siblings but useful for tracing her parents, etc.
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0804
Marriage of Patrick Corbett & Norah Gleeson 14 Nov.1898
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/793eb36942844
Possible birth for Martin in 1899-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f20b931601477