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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: miss piggy on Sunday 19 February 12 21:53 GMT (UK)
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Hi all
i have been working on my great grand father James straw. lived on Oldham street off Carlton road Nottingham.from 1871 till his death in 1912 or 13. My grand mother Sarah Millership 1894 nee straw. Told us he was killed after taking some pigs to be sold at the cattle market. Can any one advice me were im able to find out the details of this wicked deed. Would it have been in the news papers?. If so how do i get a copy. I do not live in Nottingham now so its hard to get to the archives. Would love to solve this thanks Christine
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His death certificate would give the cause of death, though not necessarily the details of how it came about.
Have you checked on FreeBMd for his death? There is a James Straw, aged 61, death in Nottingham in Mar 1912, 7b/385
Jen :)
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Told us he was killed after taking some pigs to be sold at the cattle market. Can any one advice me were im able to find out the details of this wicked deed.
Your comment suggests he was murdered rather than died from an accident - is that correct
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Yes she told us he'd sold some pigs and was rob and murdered on his way home. if i remember right gran said she was about 14 years old. Christine
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If that is the case, there will almost certainly be a newspaper report somewhere. And, if the perpetrators were caught, the trial would also be reported.
It would be worth your while contacting the local newspaper archives to see if they can find anything for you.
Jen
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Newspapers are on mirco film at Nottingham Library you will need his actual date of death to find anything in the newspapers so it would be best to get his death certificate, it may also have a date for the inquest on it too.
If you have his death date I can go to the library and look for it in the papers.
Nottsgirl
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Just another idea, do you how where he is buried as burial records will also have a death date if in a cemetery. I can check those too but not Wilford Hill.
Nottsgirl
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Hi nottsgirl.
He died Jan/ Feb /Mar 1912 7b page 385. on ancestry.Think he's at Wilford hill .But can not be sure. I think one of my cousin's as the death cert .as i know Gran had it. i just wish i could get to Notts archives but alas hubbys illness make it imposable. grateful for your help. any thing will do. thanks Christine
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If its Wilford Hill then you will need to get in touch with them to do a search but they do charge. Don't think you will find anything at the Archives but as I say I can do the newspapers at the library for you but it will take a while.
Nottsgirl1
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Will ring wilford hill tomorrow find out how much it is thanks. Thats nice of you I am trying to get in touch with
my cousin to see if she has the death cert. Christine
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Hi Christine,
OK let me know how you get on.
Nottsgirl1
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Nottsgirl
Not in Wilford hill they seem to think i should try central cem. But have not got a clue were that is?or carlton. i have just learnt T Bailey/ Forman as gone so can not get old news cuttings. So it seems i will never find out if the story is true. OH well never mind. thanks for you help Christine
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Hi Christine,
Don't give up yet, Central Cemetery is General Cemetery and I can check burial records at Nottingham Archives also there is Rock Cemetery which I'll also check. Carlton Cemetery have a on line search and I've already checked that. As I've ready said newspaper archives are at the library and I'll go though those as soon as I can but might not be for a week or two.
Do not give up not all is lost yet :D
Nottsgirl1
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Nottsgirl
OH thank you so much its very good of you. i am going to send off for a death cert. he was born in Sutton in Ashfield. so ive been told Mansfield. will be were i have to write to. Looking forwards to seeing what you find out regards Chris.
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Hi Christine,
Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you, I have checked all the cemetery's I can and cannot find James Straw sorry about that.
Have you had any luck with the death certificate yet.
Wendy
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Hi Miss Piggy,
I'm very new to the site but as I was investigating a family murder I find that we are related. I have been reading my Grandmother's memoirs and she talks about her Grandfather being murdered. She recalls her Uncle Jim coming to the house to fetch her mother to her Grandfathers house in Oldham Street. My Grandmothers name was Annie James and her mothers name was Annie James nee Straw.
Regards
Steve
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Hi all. I’m also descended from James Straw (May Straw was my great grandmother) did anyone get any further with this? As it happens I don’t live far from Nottingham so could go and check records?
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Hi MickMac,
I am sorry, but it seems Christine, aka miss piggy has sadly passed away.
If you look at the last post on the link below you will see a message from her niece... perhaps she could help you?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=749629.msg6349127#msg6349127