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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: momo42 on Sunday 26 February 12 16:53 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to help a friend find details of her mother's first marriage. I have no experience of German records and wondered how we could go about it.
The couple were Kurt Eitel F.M.Droz and Kate Kunst [born 1906]. They married in Wiesbaden on 3 March 1925. The register number is 109.
Any help /advice would be much appreciated.
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Hello Momo,
did you get any information about Kurt Maria Eitel Droz? I am from Germany and I would like to get some more information about him. Probably there might be an relationship between him and my family.
I am looking forward to hearing from you
Kind regards
Miri
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Kurt Maria Eitel Droz
born 3.3.1895 in Cologne
marriage on the 7.1.1921 in Bierstadt
Germaine Helene Waldmann
born 18.8.1900 in Taviers, Belgium (I think)
Side note on the marriage record
Divorced 15.3.1923
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Kurt Maria Eitel Droz
born 3.3.1895 in Cologne
marriage on the 3.3.1925 in Wiesbaden
Käthe Kunst
born 14.8.1906 in Posen, (now Poland)
Side note on the marriage record
Divorced 28.4.1938
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Kurt and Käthe emmigrated in 1926 – Passenger list - Ship München from Bremen to New York
Kurt, Käthe and child Katharina (3) are mentioned in the 1930 census from San Franzisco
Kurt´s father is entered as being french.
Documents found by Ancestry and Family Search.
Dave
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Thank you both for your replies.
Miri - i will meet up with my friend later this week and see if she has any more details that might be of interest to you. What is your interest / connection to Kurt ?
And thank you DaveCapps for all that information. That will certainly add to the information my friend is looking for. Amd possibly helpful to Miri. Not sure if my friend knew about the first marriage.
Will be in touch in a day or two again
Momo
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Hello Momo,
thank you for your quick response, thank you DaveCapps for your information too. I am very excited!
It might be, that Kurt Maria Eitel Droz got another daughter in Germany when he was around the age of 60. He was not married to the mother. The name Kurt Maria Eitel Droz is documented in the birth ceritficate. We thought the roots are from Switzerland, but how DaveCapps found out, this Mr. Droz was born in Cologne. Maybe he is not the one we are looking for though the combination of the first given names and the surname is very uncommon. I think there is also the name Friedrich in too (the document is not with me right now).
I´m excited to hear about your friends information,
Miri
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Birth Kurt Droz from marriage record
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Jürgen, a member of a German forum i´m a member of, provided following Info.
Meldekartei Posen. (local registration cards in Posen)
Käthe KUNST born 4.8.1906 in Posen
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/...fUXg/#tabSkany
Parents: Otto Kunst Bausekretär (civil engineer) and Elisabeth SCHULZ
Here other Kunst´s in Posen.
--> http://e-kartoteka.net/index.php?opt...t=WyJrdW5zdCJd
Marriage Otto KUNST 14.11.1900 in Posen Stadt.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...5#tabJednostki
larger scan here.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...8dEOwuMy9qq0Dg
Death Karl Otto Samuel Kunst (Ancestry, Hessen, Deutschland, ausgewählte Sterberegister, 1851-1958) Wiesbaden
https://search.ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=Oql2&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&db=HessenDeaths&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=otto&gsfn_x=NP_NN&gsln=Kunst&gsln_x=NP_NN&MSAV=1&uidh=2je&pcat=34&fh=0&h=2737005&recoff=&ml_rpos=1
Meldekartei Posen. (local registration cards in Posen)
Otto karl Samuel KUNST as child
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/...XG8w/#tabSkany
His mother Elisabeth KUNST nee KUHN, born. 26.1.1842 in Lissa.
Died 13.10.1889 in Posen.
Husband not mentioned
Death: Louise KUNST nee KUHN, 47 Jahre alt, born in Lissa ..,
married to the deceased cigar maker Reinhold KUNST.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...xe3Xr9Gv-ZXo2A
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If you want the birth certifcate from Kurt Droz contact:
Historisches Archiv
Heumarkt 14
50667 Köln
or mail: historischesarchiv@stadt-koeln.de
Stating his Name and the birth registry number 1343 noted on his marriage certificate
Also state the reason you are applying. Genealogy / family research
Ask for an "unbeglaubigte Kopie" - uncertified copy. it´s cheaper ;D
Costs about €12
Dave
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Thank you DaveCapps for all your and the other members efforts and information.
The only information we have is the complete name:
( Content removed for personal reasons )
Thank you all,
Miri
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Miri, I realize it's been a long time since you've been on here. According to all the paperwork I have I'm a relative. Not sure if it's the same Kurt Eitel Fredrich Marie Droz, but I would love to hear what you have. Feel free to reach out.
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Hi ChloëBess,
This member was last online in 2019, hopefully they will reply soon to your reply.
Regards
Sarah