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Title: COMPLETED THANKS - Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 08 March 12 06:15 GMT (UK)
Hello all,

I'm helping my friend to find her ancestors which now takes us to Wales.

Edward John Teagle was born about 1917 and I've found a BMD registration for 1st qtr 1917 in Merthyr Tydfil.
We have his marriage cert. which gives his age of 25, and father as Henry John Teagle (deceased) Electrician.

Would anyone be able to find his baptism, please?  My friends father refused to talk about his family so
little is known other than they came from Wales.


Any help will be very welcome

Alan
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Thursday 08 March 12 06:58 GMT (UK)
Looking at FreeBMD I see that the mother's maiden name for Edward John is Nicholls
There is a marriage for a John Harry Teagle on the same page as  a Dorothy Nicholls registered at Cardiff Glamorganshire vol 11a page 752 Sept 1/4 1904.
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 08 March 12 08:15 GMT (UK)
Hi crisane,

Many thanks for that entry. That confirms what I had originally thought was the correct
line to follow.
We're hoping we might be able to get a birth/bapt. date without purchasing his cert. if at all possible
at this stage.
The marriage you have found is a possible. But as his marriage cert. says Henry John Teagle there's
just a chance there may be another marriage somewhere - not on FreeBMD. I do admit though,  it looks as they could be the parents.

I wonder if a census lookup for 1901 & 11 might prove beneficial in locating his father.

Alan
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Thursday 08 March 12 08:42 GMT (UK)
I wouldn't get too hung up about the order of first and second names John Henry/Henry John.  Harry/Henry also interchangeable.

I'll see what I can see in the censuses.
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Thursday 08 March 12 08:53 GMT (UK)
1901 RG13/5028/88/14
37 Market Street Merthyr Tydfil Dowlais
Richard Edwards 59 Tailor Welshpool Montgomeryshire
Mary A 60 Tredefar Monmouthshire
Sarah A Sheppard 7 visitor Dowlais Glamorganshire
Richard T Sheppard 6 Dowlais
John H Teagle 16 boarder Coal miner hewer Cardiff Glamorganshire
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Thursday 08 March 12 08:58 GMT (UK)
Birth
September 1/4 1884 John Harry Teagle Cardiff 11a/338
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 08 March 12 09:07 GMT (UK)
Hi crisane,

That is brilliant.

Thank you very much.

Now to try and find Dorothy in the 1891 & 1901 census presumably in Suffolk

Alan
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Thursday 08 March 12 09:14 GMT (UK)
1891 RG12/4401/95/10

Ferris Street? Gabalva Glamorganshire
George Teagle 34 gen lab Shinley Buckinghamshire
Ann Lydia wife 44 Middlesex
William A 9 Stantonbury Bucks
John H 6 Maindy Cardiff
Sophia 12 Shinley Bucks
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Thursday 08 March 12 22:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Crisane,

Many thanks.

I've just looked on FamilySearch and came up with a family. Someone has already done some searching but its only "submitted" entry.

2. George Teagle - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 1872 London, London, England

I'm getting my friend to buy Edward's birth cert. Saves a lot of guess work at this stage.

Alan
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: crisane on Friday 09 March 12 00:07 GMT (UK)
I'm getting my friend to buy Edward's birth cert. Saves a lot of guess work at this stage.

Alan

The way to go. :)  let us know what it says.
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Friday 09 March 12 04:15 GMT (UK)
The way to go. :)  let us know what it says.
Quote

Will do.

Alan
Title: Re: Teagle, Edward John -born 1917 Merthyr
Post by: ribbo39 on Tuesday 27 March 12 03:43 BST (UK)
Hi crisane,

As promised , we have now received his birth cert. which confirms Edward John Teagle's birth as 3-1-1917 s/o John Harry Teagle and Dorothy (Nee Nicholls). The father was a Colliery Engineman (above ground) and they lived at 21, Commercial St, Bedlinog, Glam.

When Edward married in London in 1942 his father is listed as Henry John Teagle, Electrician, Deceased and
we have found a reference to a John Harry Teagle - death in 1939 aged 54 Mertyr T. Dist. The two seem to tie up nicely.
So are they one and the same person?  I know you said earlier not to be too concerned with the names as
they are interchangeable.

So now its on to find the marriage of John Harry Teagle to Dorothy Nicholls which was in the Mar 1/4 of 1904 in the Cardiff Dist. but where?

Alan