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Title: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: sidsmith on Monday 09 April 12 04:17 BST (UK)
Trying to find marriage in Ireland ...John CURTIN / Elizabeth HEFFERMAN?
they had a son Denis Joseph CURTIN b 11.12.1911 where in Ireland????.. died 1976 Keightley, Yorkshire
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 09 April 12 09:51 BST (UK)
I checked the online civil registration index and can't find Denis' birth (Denis Curtin 1910/1919)- of course, it's possible he ws registered as Joseph, under another Christian name or as 'male'.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084

Are you sure of his mother's maiden name? might it be Heffernan?
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: Sinann on Monday 09 April 12 14:44 BST (UK)
Do you know if they had any other children born in Ireland.
Assuming they were married by the time of the Census in 1911 I found a John and Elizabeth Curtin in Cork they already have two sons and a daughter, their youngest is only 5 months a bit soon to have another in december but not impossible.
There is also a John and Lizzie Curtin in Kerry they have six children.
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: luimneach on Monday 09 April 12 15:08 BST (UK)
LDS shows an Elizabeth Heffernan marrying a spouse named Curtin in Cork in 1906.From census looks like family at Rockhill East-in Kanturk registration district in NW of county
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 09 April 12 15:47 BST (UK)
LDS shows an Elizabeth Heffernan marrying a spouse named Curtin in Cork in 1906.From census looks like family at Rockhill East-in Kanturk registration district in NW of county

MARRIAGE: Elizabeth Heffernan Jan./Mar.1906 Cork registration district volume 5 page 114.
Can't find match for a Curtin?

MARRIAGE: John J. Curtin Apr./June 1906 Kanturk registration district volume 5 page 157
No match for Heffernan on page.
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: annclare on Monday 09 April 12 21:51 BST (UK)
Its possible that the Curtin family showing in Census 1911 at  Ballybrannagh Tralee is the correct one
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Arabela/Ballybrannagh/280744/

There is a marriage of Elizabeth Heffernan Jan Mar 1900 Tralee Vol 5 page 463 and a John Curtin with the same references so a possible match.
Also Birth reg for Denis Curtin Tralee Jul Sep 1911 Vol 5 page 449
This may be too early but there is a later one Oct Dec 1913 Tralee vol 5 page 438. Would be worthwhile getting the birth certs.

annclare
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 09 April 12 22:03 BST (UK)
that marriage mentioned by AnneClare is on the IrishGenealogy website

see : Marriage of John Curtin & Elizabeth Heffernan - 20 January 1900 (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/59d56f0521113)
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: annclare on Monday 09 April 12 22:07 BST (UK)
Shane
You just got there before me!!
annclare
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 09 April 12 22:10 BST (UK)
I knew I'd seen some Kerry marriages on that website up to about 1900 - so thought I'd give it a try!
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: sidsmith on Tuesday 10 April 12 00:41 BST (UK)
I am doing this research for my cousin in Yorkshire. His father Denis Joseph CURTIN married into my SMITH line in Kirkcaldy, Fife.
Looking at the notes I have it is Elizabeth HEFFERNAN so the marriage that annclare found would be the right one.
I will have to phone cousin from Aust and find out what the other children's names were as I did not take note of them, which would have been a help. He did say that they moved to London area.
sid
Title: Re: John CURTIN Marriage
Post by: sidsmith on Tuesday 10 April 12 02:18 BST (UK)
The 1911 census John CURTIN & lizzie at Kerry is the right one ty Sinann.
Residents of house number 5 in Ballybrannagh (Arabela, Kerry)
Curtin John 34 Male Curtin Lizzie 33 Female Curtin Mary 10 Female  Curtin Patrick 8 Male  Curtin Margaret 7 Female  Curtin Maurice 6 Male  Curtin Ellen 4 Female  Curtin Catherine 2 Female

The first child Mary was born 25 October 1900 Address RATHANNY Father JOHN CURTIN Mother ELIZABETH HEFFERNAN
Now to find other births etc
sid