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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Dorset Lookup Requests => Dorset => England => Dorset Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: iasha on Wednesday 13 June 12 20:31 BST (UK)
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Hi all, I require birth/death details please. I know she was married to a Joseph Masserella (1874) and i think she was born in 1857 in weymouth. i have her in 1911 as a widow. i also know her 11 children (think thats all).
thanks
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If she was alive in 1911 - have you checked freebmd for her death from 1911 onwards - freebmd coverage is to the late 1940's www.freebmd.org.uk
i think she was born in 1857 in weymouth
Does the 1911 entry confirm that info?
The marriage in 1874 shows her surname as Devouto - see freebmd
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yes , she was 54 in 1911 widowed. At that time she was the head of the family and the census mentions Walter Devote, brother. Thus the spelling. That different spelling would explain why i couldnt find her. will look at bmd. cheers
see what you mean, i suppose the guy doing the 1911 census couldn't spell. I would imagine the marriage was correct. cant seem to find her death though under her married or maiden name. will keep looking
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What birthplace is shown for her on the 1881 census and on the 1911 census?
cant seem to find her death though under her married or maiden name
There's one in 1940 but birthyear is 1851. There is no 1901/1911 entry with that name and birthyear in Dorset
and the census mentions Walter Devote, brother
The 1911 index shows his birthyear as 1884 - that 27yrs after Mary was born. Is he married with any children on the 1911 entry
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1891 census for Melcombe Regis - if this is Walter then birthyear is 4 years out compared to 1911 entry. All b Weymouth except Patience
Patience Devoute widow 53 b Sheffield
Joseph 28
Walter 11
Elizabeth P dtr - widow 30 - suspect the following children are Elizabeth's
Maud P 7
Florence P 2
William P 5mths
RG12 Piece 1647 Folio 9 Page 11
You will find Walter on the 1881 census indexed as Devote and birthyear 1880
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Somebody else appears to be researching this same family and has notified a correction on the 1861 census. Indexed as Devante and notification says that surname is Davouta as per 2 of the childrens birth certs
1861 for Melcombe Regis - children shown as born Weymouth
Joseph Devante 28 b Italy masons labourer
Patience 24 b Leighton Bedfordshire
Mary A 4
Catharine 3
Elizabeth 10 Months
RG 9 Piece 1350 Folio 40 Page 38
Per freebmd
Marriages March qtr 1856
Joseph Devouta Weymouth 5a 497
Patience Favell
Births June qtr 1856
Mary Ann Davouta Weymouth 5a 331
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Do you know who the daughter Mary Ann married?
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
Do you mean Mary Ann born 1857?
If yes - please see opening post
I know she was married to a Joseph Masserella (1874)
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Thanks for the quick response, sorry I got so excited I missed that entry - my grandfather Walter was 4 in the 1901 Census but I have a record of May listed as dead in 1905!
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my grandfather Walter was 4 in the 1901 Census but I have a record of May listed as dead in 1905!
There is a 1905 birth and death for a May Massarella but no birth for a Walter Massarella in 1896/97
A Joseph Edwin Massarella was b Poole 1896 - mothers maiden name Devouto
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Maybe it's a different Walter Massarella, but not sure - the 1901 England and Wales Census, shows Joseph and May Massarella (living on Green Road, Dorsetshire) with Walter Edwin Massarella DOB: May 3, 1897 - I remember his birthday being May so pretty this is my grandfather. I know that Joseph was actually Giuseppe and May Massarella was Mary Ann Devouta. I'm new to this so maybe it's another family?
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and the 1901 census shows that there was a son called Joseph Massarella who was 10!
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the 1901 England and Wales Census, shows Joseph and May Massarella (living on Green Road, Dorsetshire) with Walter Edwin Massarella DOB: May 3, 1897
The 1901 shows him only as Walter - not Walter Edwin- and census records do not show any birthdate
I am sure it is the same family. Joseph in 1901 was actually Emmanuel Joseph born 1891
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This should clear things up - 2 death registrations. One in his registered birth name and one in his "known by" name
Joseph Edwin Massarella aged 80 born 3 May 1896 Death registered Dec 1976 Hammersmith Volume 12 Page 1679
Walter Edwin Massarella aged 80 born 3 May 1896 Death registered Dec 1976 Hammersmith Volume 12 Page 1679
Births June qtr 1896
Joseph Edwin Massarella Poole 5a 270 - mothers maiden name Devouto (see reply above)
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Thank you that clears that up, nobody in the family knew who the Joseph was, but the person who did the registering has passed so no help from that end.
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He married as Walter E in 1932 - not as Joseph E
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And he was knows as Walter, his army records are Walter, his son never heard him be called Joseph - wonder how the mix up occurred, but probably one of those things we'll probably never know.