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Title: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Tuesday 24 May 05 16:41 BST (UK)
I have a G Uncle who was a British Home Child - managed to get his Middlemore records from Canada quite easily, and it's very useful.  I know he survived WW1, and apparently he enlised for "Home Defence" Just wondering if anyone might be able to pouint me in the right direction to know where I might be able to ookfor/ ask for his records to see where he went next?  Many thanks  :-*
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: Jane Eden on Tuesday 24 May 05 17:12 BST (UK)
Did you mean in the 2nd WW if so you might mean the Home Guard.

http://www.home-guard.org.uk/

Jane
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Tuesday 24 May 05 17:35 BST (UK)
No, sorry, Jane, during WW1 he enlisted for Home Defence in Canada, when he absconded from his adoptive family.  Thanks for the link, though.  Jacky
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: samthompson on Wednesday 25 May 05 01:53 BST (UK)
Hi there

If you want to post his name and particulars I can dig around here in Canada and see what can be found. I think home defence is also known as the reserves.

Here are some clips that might be of interest

http://home.thezone.net/~ainal/for_king_and_country.htm
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HMS Briton's reservists were tasked with a number of home-front defence duties. They provided an armed piquet for the Admiralty's wireless station at nearby Mount Pearl, a site Stanley Hillier visited several times in mid 1916 (but not in the capacity of Guard). Reservists also manned the harbour's main defence battery at Fort Waldegrave. Abandoned in 1870, the Fort was reactivated in June-July 1916 and manned by members of the Newfoundland Legion of Frontiersmen. The RNR maintained a 12-pounder gun there to protect the harbour entrance

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~jacktar/halifaxexplosion.html
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John G. Armstrong, "Canadian Home Defence, 1914-1917 and the Role of Major-General Willoughby Gwatkin, unpublished master's, Royal Military College of Canada, 1982 thesis.

Let me know if I can help

Thelma
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Wednesday 25 May 05 07:49 BST (UK)
Thelma, that's a really generous offer, many thanks.
He was:  William Haden, born c 1903.  Arrived in Halifax, NS 1909.  Stayed with a family called Matheson/Mattheson , Batestone, Cape Breton.  Apparently he absconded in late summer of 1914 to enlist for Home Defence.
Don't know much more than that, other than that he survived the first world war.  I've checked the War graves site, and veterans archives, but can't find anything there. Thanks again, you're a star :-*
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 25 May 05 13:50 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Not sure if you have seen this site, but it lists soldiers from WWI attestation papers who enlisted in Canada. 

http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/06/06_e.html

Karen
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Wednesday 25 May 05 15:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for that, Karen - I managed to get the attestation papers for his older brother a while back, but William wasn't old enough, and joined the Home defence at age 14.  I'll keep trying   ;o0  Jacky
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: samthompson on Wednesday 25 May 05 15:37 BST (UK)
Hello

Is this  him arriving in Canada (name spelled Hadin not Haden)

HADIN , William
Age: 6 
Sex: M 
Year of arrival: 1909 
Microfilm reel: T-4734 
Ship: Carthaginian 
Port of departure: Liverpool 
Departure Date: 25 May 1909 
Port of arrival: Halifax 
Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1909 
Party: Middlemore 
Destination: NS and NB 
Comments: No specific locations given 

On the same ship is this young boy - any relation to your William?

HADEN , Ernest
Age: 11 
Sex: M 
Year of arrival: 1909 
Microfilm reel: T-4734 
Ship: Carthaginian 
Port of departure: Liverpool 
Departure Date: 25 May 1909 
Port of arrival: Halifax 
Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1909 
Party: Middlemore 
Destination: NS and NB 
Comments: No specific locations given 

So if William was born in 1903 he was only 11 when he tried ran away. Wow, wonder what prompted him to do this - desire to get back to England?  I can't find him in the WW1 site (Karen also sent this site) but I did find Ernest.

HADEN , ERNEST  10/04/1897  222561  RG 150, Box 3908 - 54 

Ernest Haden died in WW1 and is buried with the family that he was placed with

BLACK ROCK CEMETERY
Boularderie Island, Victoria County, Nova Scotia

Alex Urquhart 18 Jan 1924 age 86 yrs
Wife Christy McLeod 12 Oct 1896 age 44 yrs
Ernest Haden 85 Battn NS Highlanders
Killed in action 6 May 1917 age 21 yrs

Name: HADEN
Initials: E
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment: Canadian Infantry (Nova Scotia Regiment)
Unit Text: 85th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 06/05/1917
Service No: 222561
Additional information: Adopted son of Mr. and Mrs. Alexander Urquhart, of Millville, Boulardarie, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. C. 12.

I'll dig around more. From the Middlemore records do you have the first names of the family he was placed with?

Cheers,
Thelma
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: samthompson on Wednesday 25 May 05 16:08 BST (UK)
Hello,

here is a long shot

from the Canadian Divorce Records
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/022/008/022008-100.01-e.php
Haden, William George    Baker, Esther    Statutes of Canada 1923 156

Do you know your William's middle name

Thelma
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Wednesday 25 May 05 17:02 BST (UK)
Thelma, this is so kind of you, thank you.
Yes, the Boys you identified are the right ones - I have Ernests attestation papers, and grave details.  I believe that William's name was transcribed incorrectly - have got his Middlemore records, too. 
I'm quite excited about the Divorce records page - that's a real possibility.  sadly, the link won't open for me at the moment, but I'll try again later. 
don't know if William had another name - his father abandoned mother around the time of his birth, and I haven't yet tracked down his birth certificate.
Thank you again, I really appreciate your efforts  :-*
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: samthompson on Wednesday 25 May 05 18:06 BST (UK)
Hello

have you seen this?
http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/homeadd.html

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MIDDLEMORE REUNION - 2004
The annual gathering of our Home Children and descendants of Home Children was held on August 28, 2004 in Fredericton, NB. The Reunion was very successful. We had about 85 in attendance including two Home Children. An election was held for a two year term. Marion Crawford was voted in as President, Mary Dobbelsteyn, Secretary, and Sheila Milburn, Treasurer. The next reunion is scheduled for Saturday September 17, 2005 in Fredericton. This will be the 25th anniversary of the Middlemore Home Reunion. We invite all descendants of Home Children from any sending agency to plan to attend.

2nd Annual Reunion of British Home Children and Descendants
The reunion was held in Truro, Nova Scotia on October 2, 2004. For more information please contact: Dawn Hopkins, 902-737-2316 bhc@seascape.ns.ca or Melvin Harris, 902-434-8013 for the Halifax/Dartmouth area and Cecil Verge, 902-681-6697, willowcb@auracom.com for the Halifax area; Debbie Walker, 902-897-6966 for Truro area; Jeanette McNutt, 902-895-9718, janway@ns.sympatico.ca for Truro area; Marion Crawford, 506-484-1815, mcrawfd@nbnet.nb.ca for New Brunswick.


They may have access to information about descendents, etc. of these children who came to Canada.

Still looking

Thelma

Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Wednesday 25 May 05 18:36 BST (UK)
Hi Thelma - thanks again!! 
Yes, that's where I got the information to get access to Middlemore records.  It's Wiliam's time after Middlemore I seem to be stuck with.  great work, thank you
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: samthompson on Thursday 26 May 05 02:28 BST (UK)
Hello

you may already have this but I think I found his WW1 attestation papers under the name of William Matheson (Hayden), sister Miss. Eliza Hayden of Liverpool is next of kin, he was born Dec 25 1901 in Wolverhampton, England. He enlisted June 29 1918 and lists Louisburg, Nova Scotia as his address.  He lists the 94 regiment for prior service. (possibly Home Defence?)

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/483728a.gif

This could be his birth reference in the online BMD

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Births Dec 1901
~~~~~~~~
 
HADEN  William     Wolverhampton  6b 654


there is also an Eliza Ann Haden born in Wolverhampton in 1896 (possibly the sister he refers to?) and an Ernest born there in 1898.

Is this of any help?

Let me know if you think this is your William and I can look around for other resources.

Thelma
Title: Re: Home Defence - ? archives
Post by: hadenmaiden on Thursday 26 May 05 07:40 BST (UK)
You are an absolute gem!!  Eliza was his sister[my granny]  born 1894 - have hers and Ernest's birth certificates.  I'll check out the GRO ref. you gave me for William  :-*Thank you sooooooooo much!!  Big hugs all round, Jacky