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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Fraser178 on Tuesday 30 October 12 07:37 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I think we all have at least one ancestor where we just hit a brick wall and struggle to get past there!
I've been their for a while and as my ancestor was born and married Pre-1837, and the parish marriage record is an online one which only gives me the date and peoples involved, but I need to find his parentage!
He died in 1853, in Manchester.
What information would be given on the certificate? I already know his rough date of death due to an obituary
Would it help me in my troubles? Or simply give me a more complete picture on one of my ancestors?
Thank you in advance
Joel
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Death certificates issued in England & Wales do not include parentage details.
See http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/deaths.htm
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Ok, thank you very much, I'll continue trying to find the information by other means :)
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The PR entry of his baptism would seem to be the best bet?
That would include both parent's names.
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That's what I've been trying to find
I'm unaware of the parish he was born in
And I've looked at numerous of the online register for parish records and to no avail
I live a fair distance from Manchester, but if my only choice is to go there and search, then I'll have to
If I found the original marriage record aswell, would that give me any more information? As on the transcription it only gave name of the bride and groom, the place and date of the wedding
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What does the 1851 census say for place of birth?
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Manchester, Lancashire
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Also his place of marriage, I believe it was at St Mary's Church in Manchester
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There is a new government leaflet ‘Discover your family history’ which gives further information about researching your family tree. This includes details of the information you’ll find on certificates and what to do if you can’t find a certificate. http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_186584.pdf
Stan
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Would you like to give the names, just in case someone can help you?
There are a number of sources that can be tried and results combined, which might just be sufficient to point you in the right direction e.g census (1851 and 1841), parish registers (for example the transcriptions on the Lancashire OPC site: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/) for baptisms, marriages and deaths, especially if the ages are given at death. Trasncriptions of the marriage register for St. Mary's Manchester can be found here: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/Manchester/stmary/index.html
I'm not sure what you have already tried or which transcription you have seen, so the above may not be of much assistance if you have already tried them. :-\
Nell
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Thank you for all your help everyone
His name is Andrew Fraser (Frazer possibly) born around 1808 in Manchester Lancashire
Married in 1829 and died in 1853
LAN opc is where I gained the marriage information
But sadly it yielded me no more results!
Joel
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Joel,
The image of the marriage entry is available on the FamilySearch site:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0rzj/
It probably does not help much, but it does give you all the information there is.
Nell
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Thank you :)
Nice image to see and good to add to my collection
But no parents or sign of any siblings perhaps being witness'
I'm abit stuck now