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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: thurgood on Friday 02 November 12 04:14 GMT (UK)
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The man is William Wood B 1903 Montrose Scotland unknown girl Where was it shot
How do I shift this to another board such as Photo Id*
* Moderator Comment: topic moved ;) *
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To me, this doesn't look like Australia. Trees look perhaps a bit like pines or cold climate plants of some sort, and is that a frost or snow on the ground?
I take it that William moved to Australia at some point - whereabouts did he move to? A cold region?
I think this query may be better on the photo dating board* as you will probably get help dating the clothes. I am just guessing, but I think it is difficult to date this and I'd say it could be anything from 30's to 50's (her handbag and shoes could be 50's). Someone will know about the man's outfit - turnups on trousers and waistcoat may give clues. I think the girl's hat may have a tassle?
* Moderator comment: topic moved - thank you Ruskie :) *
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Hey believe it or not we do get snow and frost in large areas of Australia - it isn't sunny and hot all the time ::) ;D
It almost looks like it is snowing in the photo but I suspect they are age marks.
It's a bit to generic to say whether or not it is Australia - the bushes could be Mulga scrub but the two people don't look particularly dressed as people in our outback and country area would be expected to be, although they could have been on their way to church and this was their best clobber. ;).
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There appears to be a pot plant in the background which suggests a garden rather than woods/outback.
Caroline
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Hey believe it or not we do get snow and frost in large areas of Australia - it isn't sunny and hot all the time ::) ;D
I realise that, hence my question about whereabouts in Australia William migrated to.
It's a tricky one with so little of the background to see. As Caroline says, it appears to be a garden. I think that looks like a hedgein the background - it's a bit too cultivated looking and too tall and lush to be mulga isn't it? :-\ I wonder if lightening it might bring out some features.
Looking again at the girl's coat, I think the single button and pleats low on the waist give it a 20s look. Also appears to have a fur collar.
(Thanks for moving this Prue :))
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Good pick up on the pot plant Ruskie I think you are right - a garden with a hedge - not that it really helps determine where but still you never know - there might be another garden shot lurking with the same hedge perhaps.
Cheers
Maureen
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The little girls hat is interesting, with the long tassel to her shoulder. Don't quote me, but to me the hat has a European look to it, although without further clues, it could just about be anywhere. Hopefully Jim or China might have a few more clues.
I've lightened the photo and there are no more significant details that I can see in the background, but I'm more inclined to think that is a light covering of snow.
I agree that the hedge has been purposely planted, particularly in light of the pot plant.
Caroline
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What makes you think it was taken in Australia?....the girl's coat looks as though it has been taken up.
Carol
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There appears to be a pot plant in the background
Caz! You party animal, you ;D ;D ;D
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I have a photo of my mum, who was born in 1925, in exactly the same hat with the same haircut. It could well be 1928 IMO.
Cheers,
China
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China...you little devil...I think you'll pay for that ;D ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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Hey. She said it.
;D ;D
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:o :o :o :o :o Tsk, tsk!!!
Little devil is right!!!
Pot plant is Aussie speak for plant in a pot or ANY plant that can be put in a pot....geez, I don't know what we're going to do with you China, I really don't! :-\ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Caz
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China - if that is about 1928 that makes the bloke about 25 - is that right do you think??
He's pretty relaxed without collar and tie isn't he. ;)
Wiggy :)
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Could be about right, I'd say.
Hi Caz, glad you dropped in ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I think he looks a bit older than 25, but he may have lived a hard life and look older than his years. ;)
I would like to ask thurgood, if William emigrated to Australia, when he did so. This may help with dating the photo. Also, is the chap in the photo definitely identified as William Wood?
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Been trying to see what the badge is that he is wearing in his lapel - but the resolution isn't good enough!
Wiggy :)
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OK not casually as in rough casual but collarless casual... ::) :-X
xin
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The fella looks like he is in OZ by the way he is casually dressed
He is wearing a three piece suit! :o (A bit crumpled but nevertheless a suit. ;))
The only casual thing about him is that he is not wearing a collar and tie. And it is obviously just a candid photo so that may be the reason.
Just my thoughts. :)
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My father wore a three piece suit as a young man in the 1930s on occasions, and he didn't leave Australia until he was over 60, in the 1970s
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But would you class this as casual dress? I'm not sure if it would have been casual even in the 20's/30s - and I know folks used to dress up more in the 'olden days'.
I'm not suggesting that the photo was not taken in Australia as he is wearing a suit, but just questioning the use of the term 'casual dress' - where in the world it was taken is irrelevant. :)
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yeah - I understood that ;) - sorry wasn't querying you use of casual ;)
- just that Aussies did wear 3 piece suits even for non-formal/normal work wear - then took their collars and ties off when they got home.
Personally I don't think there is any way of telling where it was taken from what is showing in the photo. ;D
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Oh ok, sorry Wiggy, I misunderstood. :)
I agree, impossible to tell location without more information. For example if the OP says that William emigrated in 1920, this is obviously not going to have been taken in Scotland in 1925. ;) Maybe once they return to this post we may get a bit more info.
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Hi everyone thanks for the interest & in view of various comments here is some more info
Yes He is William Wood B july 1903 Montrose ex RAF arrived Fremantle SS Berrima in 1927 Aug 15th contact at D McLennan Trayning [ town in WA ] Arrived back in London on the ORONSAY on AUG 29 1930. Photo in question has the date recorded on rear as JULY 27 1930 so if date correct must be in Australia. He was single when he left RAF yet was a widower when he married in 1935 in Arbroath, thus the second query about Perth marriages. Maybe the girl was a previous daughter of the first wife. There is no knowledge of this marriage ? in any family knowledge. This mystery will probably will never be solved RON
This new photo was also supposed to be in Perth WA William is rear second left Who are the others is unknown
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William - b 1903
arrived Australia Aug 15 1927
photo dated July 27 1930
arrived London Aug 29 1930
I would be very interested to know how long the trip was from Australia to London in the 1930s? I know it used to be a lot longer than one month (3 or 4) sailing the other way. ;) Did William depart from Fremantle and if so do you know what date? Do you know the route taken?
Maybe this was a farewell photograph. I am still not sure that this photo screams Australia, but if the dates tally then I suppose it must have been taken there.
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The actual date of Dept is not on Shipping recs. Net search shows travel time 1930s to be about 35 to 40 days from Fremantle. RON