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Title: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: Juliet22 on Monday 30 May 05 15:29 BST (UK)
Hi,
Which is the likely burial ground for someone who died at Little Neston Street, Ashley lane, Manchester?  in 1866.
Thanks alot
Juliet  ;)
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Monday 30 May 05 17:02 BST (UK)
Hi Juliet

Is that Ashley Lane Moston? and what religion were they?

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: Juliet22 on Tuesday 31 May 05 13:50 BST (UK)
Help, I have no idea.  If Moston is an area of Manchester then maybe.  All I know Ashley lane still exists but Little Neston Street appears not to.
As for their religion, I think they were C of E but I cannot be 100% sure as george was born in Ireland and I haven't been able to find his marriage yet.
Not much help am I?
Juliet
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Tuesday 31 May 05 16:24 BST (UK)
Hi Juliet

If it is Moston I would suggest this church. The church is still in operation but all headstones were removed a long time ago.

Harpurhey- Christ Church
Baptisms-1838-1908- MFPR 1380
Baptisms-1908-1959- MFPR 1381
Burials-1838-1878- MFPR 1386
Burials-1878-1963- MFPR 1387
Marriages-1840-1898- MFPR 1382
Marriages-1898-1915- MFPR 1383
Marriages-1915-1934- MFPR 1384
Marriages-1934-1952- MFPR 1385
Marriages-1952-1970- MFPR 1386

The records above are held in the Manchester Archives 
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/registers/index.htm

Hope this helps

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: Juliet22 on Tuesday 31 May 05 16:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Ken, Will give them a try!
Juliet  :)
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: molar on Wednesday 01 June 05 12:03 BST (UK)
Hi
There is a church on Ashley Lane Moston, St Johns Cof E.
The nearest RC cemetry is on Lightbowne Rd.
Linda
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Wednesday 01 June 05 13:26 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

As far as I know the Ashley lane church never had burials, it is a walled church and house, old maps do not indicate a grave yard and I live at the back of it on land that was once Moston House later an RC school/convent then a college.
Moston- Ashley Lane Wesleyan
Baptisms-1880-1964-Archives M80/6
Marriages-1924-1965- Archives M275

and

St. Joseph's Cemetery (RC) Moston Lane, Manchester opened in 1877, ten years after he died.

The one possible other would be, Queens Park Cemetery, Harpurhey opened in 1837.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: Juliet22 on Wednesday 01 June 05 13:41 BST (UK)
Cheers Linda and Ken,

I'll try Queens Park as well.
Juliet
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Wednesday 05 July 06 09:47 BST (UK)
Hello Just a stab in the dark here, i live in the south of england but originate from salford.  I am doing my family history and i have no older members of my family left so as you were chatting about moston cemetry i was wondering if anyone could help.

Catherine Smith MY Great Grandmother is buried in moston cemetery along with her 4 sisters whom i have no idea who they are? except one is a Sarah Logan of camp st died in 1933 age 34i think she is buried in a multiple grave.
I remember  around 25 yrs ago my mother found her grave and it had no marker on it so my parents tidied the grave and my dad made a wooden white cross and painted it white does any one have any ideas how to find this plot again? and does anyone know of any publications that transcribe the plots in moston cemetery?

Her family were from meath and louth ireland so i am not getting very for with this part of the family.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Wednesday 05 July 06 14:16 BST (UK)
Hi TraceyAustin

I take it is St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery, Moston Lane, Manchester you are talking about?
Due to work  :'( I cant get to the cemetery office for you but you can try ringing them on
0161 681 1582 you will need to give them names and dates. If you can get a grave location I will call up one weekend with trusty camera in hand.
Please let me know how you get on.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Wednesday 05 July 06 15:10 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for your advice i have phoned them and the lady in the office was really helpful.

She gave me the plot numbers for
Catherine Smith -St malachy 1468
also in the grave is her father james smith died 1957 6th june age 89 years

Sarah Logan Nee smith age 34 public grave section c 1451

elizabeth Wolstenholme Section c 1332 age 35 yrs

I would be eternally grateful if you could get me some photos as i now live in the south of engalnd and have no other close relatives left.

Thankyou once again x
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Wednesday 05 July 06 16:36 BST (UK)
Hi TraceyAustin

Will get them for you asap.

Regards
Ken

Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Thursday 06 July 06 20:52 BST (UK)
thankyou so very much once again when you have them do you need my email? let me know if you do!!

You seem to be very good at the research so i was wondering do you know how to trace the births of these women in ireland as i have know idea as irish records are not online!!
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Saturday 15 July 06 11:11 BST (UK)
Hi TraceyAustin

As promised, You are so lucky I have found all 3 graves. 2 are in paupers graves but the most amazing thing is the wooden cross is still in place protected by a tree.

Please PM me with your email address and I will forward them on to you, I will zip them up but the file will still be large so hope you have BB. Before I send them I will adjust brightness/contrast etc.

 
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Saturday 15 July 06 14:10 BST (UK)
Blimey Brilliant that brings back flashes from the past.

Blimey i cant beleive it

Thankyou so much i was about 7 i think when my dad built that cross i am 35 now

Thankyou i am so so grateful
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Saturday 15 July 06 16:26 BST (UK)
TraceyAustin

Photos of the other 2 graves (reduced).

Thanks for the PM Tracey I will get them sent in a few minutes.

Well another success story for Rootschat  :)  ;D  :) Dont you just love it  ;)  ;D  :)

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Saturday 15 July 06 16:55 BST (UK)
Thankyou a great sucess story for roots chat and a big thankyou too you  Also....brilliant, i thought i would never be avle to find them.....

EXCELLENT thankyou once again.
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: UKgirl on Wednesday 19 July 06 06:30 BST (UK)
Well another success story for Rootschat  :)  ;D  :) Don't you just love it  ;)  ;D  :) Regards Ken

Isn't he just too, too modest? "Another success story for Rootschat"?

How about "Another success story brought about by Kenhar yet again"?  :)

Isn't he just a wonderful, kind and generous man?

I think that it is a miracle that the little white cross was still sitting there waiting to be found by him, "trusty camera in hand", all these years later. A really happy outcome. :) :)

Thank you Ken from all of us that you have helped on Rootschat. And yes, we do all love it.............8)

UKgirl
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Wednesday 19 July 06 08:50 BST (UK)
UKgirl

Thank you UKgirl but It is just something I enjoy doing  :-[ . I am still working on the St Marys project, just waiting the OK to start

Heres a question for the forum.
Looking at the photo with George Saxon as the first burial, 14 people had been buried in the space of 6 weeks in the same plot.

How deep must the grave have been? and was the grave back filled after each burial to ground level? only to be uncovered a couple of days later.

This site has 100's of paupers graves just like this one, sad to think it but a grave diggers job in them times must have been very secure.

Regards
Ken

Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Wednesday 19 July 06 09:18 BST (UK)
I don't know how deep the grave goes or how wide but when i was asking about the plot the lady in the cemetery offices did say it was a very full grave so perhaps there are more in there but just not on the head stone?

Don't know how you would find out tho...and yes there is nothing so sure in this life than death..so a grave diggers job even now is very secure but may be a bit easier with the oncomings of diggers etc.


Thankyou




Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: tigster on Thursday 20 July 06 09:40 BST (UK)
Hi Ken

I have yet another few  questions for you, I have found that Sarah Logan had children that died, was St Josephs cemetery the only Catholic cemetery? as iI want to start looking for these children, so would you say that they would possibly be in the same cemetery as their mother? The family seem to originate in an around Broughton is this near the cemetery?

regards

Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Thursday 20 July 06 13:38 BST (UK)
Hi TraceyAustin

Broughton is only a few miles from Moston. They could be buried in a number of sites mostly council run sites - Blackley,Weaste,Harpurhey, Philips Park,Agecroft.

Try here for burials in Blackley/Harpurhey & Philips Park http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/

Agecroft looks after Weaste and these are located in Salford.

But first try St Josephs when you get there details.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: mikehicks on Sunday 13 August 06 18:48 BST (UK)
Is this the Manchester General Cemetery? If so the burial records at Blackley should show you the burial depths.
Title: Re: Burials near Ashley Lane, Manchester
Post by: uk2003 on Monday 14 August 06 08:34 BST (UK)
Hi mikehicks

No this is St Josephs in Moston a couple of miles from the MGC site, but I suppose I could ask the same question at the reception office at St Josephs "fool am I" for not thinknig that in the first place  :P ::) :P

Regards
Ken