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Title: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Friday 07 December 12 16:17 GMT (UK)
In 1901 Census for Migdale:-
Ann Mackay, Pauper, 63, born Rogart
Jane Mackay, Niece, Dessmaker,  29, born Elgin

In 1911 Census:-
Jane Mackay, Head, 39
William Gunn, Boarder, 11
Duncan Matheson, Boarder, 7
Perhaps the the boys were fostered there.  Have heard they called her Auntie Jeannie.
Anyone out there with any information on Ann or Jane?

Langwell
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 07 December 12 16:26 GMT (UK)
Hi

Exactly what kind of information are you looking for?

Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Friday 07 December 12 17:59 GMT (UK)
Hello

Anything really. Birth and Death dates, place of death, or who parents were.
It has been hinted that they could have been connected to the Mackay's of Hereford.

Langwell
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 07 December 12 21:31 GMT (UK)
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It has been hinted that they could have been connected to the Mackay's of Hereford

By whom?  What additional info is known on which that assumption is based?

Have you looked back at earlier census entries for both of them to get more info?

Was  Ann a widow in 1901?  Earlier census entries will give her husbands name which should enable you to find her marriage details.

If she married from 1855 onwards - the marriage cert will give parental details including her mothers maiden name

If you are unable to find her marriage or if she was a spinster,  have you looked for her death on Scotlands people as her death cert will give parental details etc

If you are unable to find Jane on earlier censuses - you will need to look for a death for her to establish her parentage

Scotlands People is the only website for BMD details for that period and it is a pay per view site (credits purchase)

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Friday 07 December 12 23:13 GMT (UK)
I have no further information.  An elderly lady, now long gone, used to say there was a connection to the Herefords, but as she was a bit ecentric I was never quite sure.
I did some research on the Herefords but never managed to tie the two.
Langwell
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: ev on Saturday 08 December 12 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Langwell   :)

You say the 1901 Census was Migdale , does that come under the Bonar district ?
What was Jane's birthplace on the 1911 Census , where was that Census taken ?

ev
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 08 December 12 14:30 GMT (UK)
Hi

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could have been connected to the Mackay's of Hereford

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there was a connection to the Herefords

There is a subtle difference there dependant on what additional info you already know.

Do you mean the MacKay family from Hereford in England.

Or - is the family surname Hereford
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Saturday 08 December 12 16:16 GMT (UK)
The Mackay family lived at Achillach, Rogart.
Their son John went south where he became a successful railway engineer.
Thereafter he was referred to as John Mackay of Hereford and his siblings seemed to be always refered to as "The Herefords"

Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Saturday 08 December 12 16:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Langwell   :)

You say the 1901 Census was Migdale , does that come under the Bonar district ?
What was Jane's birthplace on the 1911 Census , where was that Census taken ?

ev
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: ev on Saturday 08 December 12 16:38 GMT (UK)
Scotlandspeople has a death Ann Mackay 1907 Bonar Sutherland , born c1838

ev
Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: ev on Saturday 08 December 12 17:06 GMT (UK)
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The large oil painting displayed in the Mackay Room is of John Mackay, "Hereford" who was born and spent his first school years at Rogart, Sutherland before moving to Hereford. He grew up to become an engineer of note who built railways in South America and became a millionaire. He returned to Scotland in the 1880's and helped set up the Clan Mackay Society and the Crofter's Commission.

http://www.strathnavermuseum.org.uk/mackay_country.asp

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/john-mackay-esq-ce-jp-of-hereford-167099

ev

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Title: Re: Ann Mackay
Post by: langwell on Saturday 08 December 12 22:54 GMT (UK)
Thanks.  Will look that up.