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Title: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Madwith on Sunday 13 January 13 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am trying to find the parents of Moses Barnes, who was married in (Cheltenham, I believe) Tewkesbury district  in 1844.

I have found him and his family, (wife Tryphina) in subsequent censuses. 1851 census gives his age as 27 and occupation as gardener, born in Cheltenham.
If anyone could help I should be very grateful!
Thanks.
Madwith.
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 13 January 13 17:21 GMT (UK)
Marriage Moses Barnes +Tryphenia Dix 1844 St Mary Magdalene Boddington Cheltenham

Either marriage cert or parish register will give fathers names +occupations

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 13 January 13 17:39 GMT (UK)
1841 Cheltenham Gloucs.H0107/353 folio60  page19

Trophina Dix 1825 + family

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Victor Harvey on Sunday 13 January 13 17:54 GMT (UK)
Tryphena Catherine DIX, daughter of Samuel & Ann, a Grocer of Cheltenham, baptised at St Mary, Cheltenham, January 17th, 1826.
Samuel DIX married Ann HUNT at St Mary, Cheltenham, October 19th, 1812, by Banns.
Victor  :)
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: jacquelineve on Sunday 13 January 13 18:01 GMT (UK)
You may already have this info,but if not....

Gloucester Citizen Thursday 3rd Feb 1887
            Deaths
Barnes:- Jan 28th at 31, Rose and Crown Passage, Cheltenham
             Triphenia, wife of Mr Moses Barnes, age 63yrs.

Jackie
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Victor Harvey on Sunday 13 January 13 18:09 GMT (UK)
Moses Meacham BARNES, son of James & Ann, a Gardener of Cheltenham, baptised at St Mary, Cheltenham, March 28th, 1823.
James BARNES married Ann COURTNEY at Prestbury, Cheltenham, June 12th 1812, by Banns.
Victor  :)
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Madwith on Monday 14 January 13 17:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you Jackie and Victor for your help in finding the marriage and the other details for me- that is brilliant! :)

Maureen
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Trautssenrab on Monday 30 September 19 15:08 BST (UK)
Hi Everybody
I was suprised to see so much info. about my Great Grandfather Moses. I am wondering who
else would be interested in my family. What bothers me a little is that as far as I know Moses
didnt have any middle names, where does the name Meacham come from? I am new at this
so am grateful for any help I can get. Looking foward to hearing from somebody about anything to do with my family. Thanks
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 30 September 19 15:36 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

Meecham also appears on his death registration
Moses Meecham Barnes
Sept qtr 1902
Age at Death 79
Reg district Swindon
5a 11

1901 census when he is staying with daughter Maude he is listed as Moses M Barnes
RG13/1219 f30 p2
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Trautssenrab on Wednesday 02 October 19 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie99
Thanks for the info. I am trying to find out who Moses father and mother were. I figured it
would be on a death certificate but cant even find one. Where do I find this death Registration?
Appreciate your help thanks
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 02 October 19 15:09 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too.

His baptism details, including his parents' names, was posted at reply #5 - along with a suggested marriage for the parents.

You can find his death registration on FreeBMD or GRO Online. You'd need to order the death certificate from GRO Online for full details.
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 02 October 19 22:40 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie99
Thanks for the info. I am trying to find out who Moses father and mother were. I figured it
would be on a death certificate but cant even find one. Where do I find this death Registration?
Appreciate your help thanks

English death certificates do not name parents
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Trautssenrab on Friday 04 October 19 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi again all, thanks in advance for your help.
What is puzzling me is that Victor said Moses BARNES, son of James & Ann, a Gardener of Cheltenham, baptised at St Mary, Cheltenham, March 28th, 1823. however according to my
info. James and Ann didnt have a son called Moses. I may be wrong and would really be pleased
to find out without doubt who Moses mother and father were. Thanks again and have a good weekend.
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 04 October 19 16:22 BST (UK)
You really need Moses marriage certificate to see who he named as his father. 

The entry that Victor has posted regarding James and Ann as Moses parents is from the church baptism record
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: Capetown on Friday 04 October 19 18:51 BST (UK)

There is a tree on Ancestry which includes a copy of the Marriage

1844, Parish Church Boddington

April 8th

Moses BARNES, full age, Bachelor, occupation: Gardener residence: Boddington

Father: James BARNES, Gardener

Tryphena DIX, full age, Spinster, residence: Boddington

father: Samule DIX, Gardener

witnesses: Joseph DIX and Ann  SLICE?????


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This tree includes of photo of Moses

Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 05 October 19 07:51 BST (UK)
1841 census for James & Ann
H0107/ 353 Bk 3 f30 p11 - St Mary, Cheltenham - Copttage, Upper Field

James Barnes 45 occ Gardener
Ann 40
Samuel 13
Miriam 15
Amelie 13
James 11
All born in county except Ann

Moses is possibly at Dukes Head, Duke Street, Cheltenham
H0107/353  bk3 f34 p19

Robert Barns 20 occ ag lab
Moses Barns 18 occ Carpenter
Both born in County
Ancestry have it transcribed as Barris

Robert Barnes was baptised at Cheltenham 9 December 1820 parents James & Ann
Title: Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 05 October 19 08:05 BST (UK)
The following children appear to have been baptised at Cheltenham, parents James & Ann

Mary Ann 13/02/1816
Emma  21/11/1817
Ann 23/05/1819
Robert 09/12/1820
Moses Meacham 28/03/1823
James  23/03/1825
Samuel 13/02/1825
Miriam Church  27/10/1826
Amelia 20/03/1829
James 06/03/1831