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Title: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Thursday 17 January 13 22:14 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to find out where a patient who died in the Towers Hospital (1944)  was buried/cremated?
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Thursday 17 January 13 22:55 GMT (UK)
Greeting’s Gee & Welcome to the Leicestershire Boards. …. :)

In order to answer your request we need the name of the Patient
I can then have a look around my CD’s ….

MIKE. ……
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Friday 18 January 13 00:06 GMT (UK)
Louisa Toach died 16 December 1944
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Friday 18 January 13 00:34 GMT (UK)
Greeting’s Again Gee………

Sorry the only Toach Burial I can see is as follows :~

1944.
St: Mary’s Parish Church.
Humberstone.


Burial Register entry No’. 1067.

Reginald Eugene Toach.

Of the Parish of St Mary’s Humberstone.
22nd January.
Aged. 42.

Plus going on the names your researching. Plus Towers Hospital 1944.
We Get :~
Gilroes Civic Cemetery Groby Road Leicester.

1944.


Plot No’. M. 150.
Henry William Ball.
107 Needham Street
Late of Towers Hospital.
8th April.
Aged 65. 

MIKE. ……
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Friday 18 January 13 09:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks Mike from Leicester. A bit of a puzzle then as her son didn't bury or cremate her - he was at sea. Perhaps The Leicester Mental Hospital had their own arrangements as she certainly died there (I have their issued certificate). Thanks for the look-up though. Don't know where to look next. ??? She did have some family in Bedford but I don't suppose they buried her.
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: a-l on Monday 24 June 13 18:54 BST (UK)
hi i know mental hospitals had their own graveyards but if it this is not the case with the towers and her family didnt bury her would a communal burial be a possibility?
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 24 June 13 22:31 BST (UK)
That would be quite possible but would still show up on the graveyard listings.
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Monday 24 June 13 22:52 BST (UK)
This is now a bit strange. If a common grave would there be a list?
Did the Leics Mental Health have a communal grave plot for that time?
Thanks everyone for trying to solve this...where to look next?????
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: a-l on Tuesday 25 June 13 11:34 BST (UK)
hi gee not sure if the hospitals graves were communal but as the lady said there must be a list. have you tried contacting leicester cemetaries? not knowing how far back you are looking but if its a long way then there were potters fields
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Tuesday 25 June 13 18:50 BST (UK)
I had a reply from Mike from Leicester who had checked out the records and couldn't find Louisa. It was only in 1944 so not that long ago   ;)
Think I may have to visit the Records Office in Wigston and ask for assistance.  Just need the time to go there now.
Thanks again everyone for trying so hard.  :)
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: a-l on Wednesday 26 June 13 10:11 BST (UK)
having read mike's post abt the different grave name has reminded me of something. a relative of mine died in 1941. he was buried with a stranger who was being buried that week. mike's info may well be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Gee44 on Wednesday 26 June 13 16:28 BST (UK)
Noted alienlady. It's a point worth remembering, but then it will make this search even harder  :-\

Thanks again
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Ross Ferguson on Thursday 22 June 17 18:04 BST (UK)
Mike,

Could you possible check for a James T(Thomas) Ferguson who died in Leicester, in 1967.

I believe he was in Tower Hospital and I'd love to know more information such as you provided previously in this post.

Could you email me directly? (*)

Thank you

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MIKE. ……



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Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: TonyV on Thursday 22 June 17 21:32 BST (UK)
Hi Ross

Sadly Mike from Leicester passed away a couple of years ago.

Tony
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Annie65115 on Thursday 22 June 17 22:27 BST (UK)
Hello Ross, and welcome to Rootshcat.

Mike was a tremendous source of information and helped out many of us, but sadly passed away as has already been said.

I'm sure that other folk on here will be happy to help you as much as we can. However, the resources available for burials don't go up as far as 1967, so I doubt that anyone will be able to access this info for you.

As I'm sure you'll know, the Towers was a hospital and as such, records from there are subject to the 100 yr rule, so you won't be able to get details of James Ferguson's stay there either.

Your best bet is to contact the city council in Leicester who may be able to give you details of this burial:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ijs/

good luck!

One final thing though -- you need to remove your private email from your message (a mod may do this for you!)
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Derek C Goodwin on Monday 25 September 17 22:01 BST (UK)
I was one of the porters at the Towers Hospital as it closed, I literally locked the doors for the last time. I only worked there for six years and much of it was shut down by then, but I am 99.9% sure there were no graves on the site. I have had a couple of relatives who died in the workhouses, they were burried in paupers graves in the nearest church or cemetery.

I know its only a titbit, but I hope its usefull
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: TonyV on Monday 25 September 17 23:17 BST (UK)
Thanks GeorgeBean. It's great to have that sort of information from someone who obviously knew the land well. I imagine that even graves of patients in such a place would have been in a marked area even if the graves themselves were memorialised so you would have known if so. Interesting to hear too about burials of workhouse residents as I certainly had some ancestors, as you did, in those places.

On the edge of the town where I live in Hampshire there used to be an old-fashioned hospital for long term mental health in-patients which I imagine was very much like the Towers. Like most such institutions many of the patients were more recently entrusted to out-patient community care and the old buildings were torn down to make way for new private housing (again like the Towers). However, just across a road from the site is a very small cemetery with no church anywhere near and neither is it one used by the town as such. I am guessing that this may have been used to bury patients from the hospital whose family had lost touch with them or didn't want to know, after they had passed away. I have no reason to check but my thought was that this may have been the case elsewhere.

Tony 
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Derek C Goodwin on Monday 25 September 17 23:44 BST (UK)
I'll ask around tomorrow at work, I am at Glenfield Hospital now but there are many of the old Towers staff working there.

regards

Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: TonyV on Monday 25 September 17 23:54 BST (UK)
Thanks for the offer but I don't have a specific interest in the Towers hospital. I got involved in this thread because someone had posted a request to the late and much lamented "Mike in Leicester" who got involved when it first started.

cheers

Tony
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Legacey on Thursday 15 June 23 12:00 BST (UK)
Hi

Recently found that a member of my family passed away at the Towers. I was looking to see if the Towers had a graveyard but I can't find information to say that they have.

Could someone guide me please on how to find where he is buried?

William Mason
Birth - 1817
Death - 1876
Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Annie65115 on Thursday 15 June 23 14:49 BST (UK)
Hello Legacey.

William was buried in Welford Road cemetery; it looks as though it may have been a family grave as all bar one of the people buried there had the Mason surname.

Plot uS   2370   
WHITWELL   ---   1876   MAY   11   STBN   SYSTON STREET   SAINT MARGARET   CHILD OF SARAH
MASON   WILLIAM   1876   MAY   11   age 59   LEICESTER BOROUGH ASYLUM   HUMBERSTONE   
MASON   THOMAS   1889   JUL   17   age 12   AYLESTONE ROAD   AYLESTONE   
MASON   JOHN HENRY   1891   MAY   16   age 27   RUSSELL STREET   SAINT MARGARET   MASON   EMMA   1914   DEC   2   age 66   13 CLIFTON ROAD   LEICESTER   
MASON   THOMAS   1918   FEB   7   age 74   13 CLIFTON ROAD   LEICESTER   

The information is from the CD of the Welford Road burials, sold by the LFHS (mine is a bit ancient, you can probably buy it as a download/PDF now!)


Title: Re: Leicester Mental Hospital (Towers) death
Post by: Legacey on Thursday 15 June 23 15:06 BST (UK)
Amazing!!! Thank you so much