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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: bclc71 on Thursday 31 January 13 06:32 GMT (UK)
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I have come to a halt with finding any new clues online and think that the next logical step is to accept that I will have to pay to thrall through online resources. I've dabbled with Ancestry with great frustration and not finding much. Wondering if Findmypast is worth paying to use?
of other suggestions ??
( I am located in Australia, researching primarily irish ancestry in Dublin and surrounds. I found heaps through irishgeneaology when the Dublin church records went online and now not going anywhere fast!! Keen to try and trace an ancestor (thomas Jordan) who was in the army in Galway 1844 (19th regiment).
would love a fresh lead!!
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before u pay out on a sub to the world find my past site ...have u considered just checking first in their index whether they have the names etc you are after....
you may also wish to consider that there are other subscription sites... ukgenealogist british newspaper archive... war forums ,,,
and if you are in Australia you can use ancestry at your public library for free.
If there are known files of your kin in Irish forces , would it not seem more rational to buy any individual files and articles that u have been putting off for years.....
but in the end its all up to you and to what end you want to find your kin other than diggin up their bones and trying to get the answers from them....
good luck in your quest to enrich the world with subscription payments
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fastfusion
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Some libraries in Australia - public and societies - have FindMyPast available.
You could ask around.
Dawn M
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I am located in Australia, researching primarily irish ancestry in Dublin and surrounds. I found heaps through irishgeneaology when the Dublin church records went online and now not going anywhere fast!! Keen to try and trace an ancestor (thomas Jordan) who was in the army in Galway 1844 (19th regiment).
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To research church records for the kind of dates you are interested in you need a more definite location - i.e. the name of the townland or parish, as well as the denomination of the family involved. Not all surviving records are available online so sometimes viewing microfilms (e.g. LDS) and visits to archives are the only way to follow leads.
The Army was the British Army so most records ended up in London at the National Archives. Many of these have been digitized and are on Ancestry and FindMyPast.UK, but many others are only available in the Archives.
The Irish BMD Index on FindMyPast is also available without charge on FamilySearch, but only includes Civil records, which sound a little too late for this research.
Shane
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If you go to the FindMyPast website, and search Military, Armed Forces & Conflict, using Thomas Jordan, there are a number of hits under British Army Service Records.
I found 9 who were born in Ireland, including 1 from Dublin (born 1808).
I don't have a sub, so can't help you out with any further information. :(
Of course, you could buy some credits, and have a peek? ;D
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I will enquire about what the libraries have available first. I bring my kids there constantly but never think to look at the Family history resources !! silly really. I guess I squeeze my research in around my busy life ( like now I am burning dinner as I type this!!) so making time at a library is just that little bit harder. BUT I'm ready for new leads :-)
I have extensively searched BDM indexes and Family Search - but stuck and looking for new options...
I don't mind in principle paying for views IF I can get close enough to the record to know its worth looking at!! I found ScottishPeople really great - and didn't resent having to pay because I was able to find enough without paying to know it was worth going further.
Haven't used FindMyPast at all before so not sure as to the breath of its documents.
re army records - I should be able to find pension details on FindMyPast (but the name I'm looking for Thomas Jordan has a lot of entries and I don't know where he originates from) I will need to get someone to check Kew archives for muster records - just not sure how to make that happen from here!! There was someone through this site who contacted me about doing paid searches and it was very reasonable but when I have tried to get back in touch with him he hasn't responded!!
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I don't know where thomas is from. he was married in Galway 1844 where he was posted ( army brought into to throw tenants off the land at the start of the famine!!!) then I found records of him in MAlta in 1849 and the birth and death of a child. Then back in Offaly 1851 where my ancestor was born. I think the muster records will identify where he signed on....
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so excited - in searching about army records I discovered that via the National archives site I could find my Thomas Jordan - he jumped off the page at me ( helped that I had figured out his regiment and that I know after the army he lived in offaly) . I could then find his service record in Findmypast - so bought 60 credits. 7 GBP's well spent!!!! Not sure if I had just gone straight to FindMyPast that I'd have found him so easily - via the national archives was great !!
I am buzzing with excitement!
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For future reference you can get montly subscription to Ancestry too, you just need to cancel by a certain time so you don't get charged for the next month!
Are you tracing Thomas Jordan forward or backwards??
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Backwards. His son thomas (born 1851 Clara, Offaly) moved to Dublin and had heaps of kids ( as did the Jordans for several generations - I am one of eight Jordan siblings from Glasnevin). I found lots of details in the online church records for the family so have a good picture of the Jordans later. I was just stuck on this bit! I had hope that if I could get to the correct army records it would answer whether Thomas was originally irish or english. So happy to have confirmed that. It doesn't give me anything much to go back further other than the parish he is from (Kilbride, Offaly) - so I guess thats where I need to look next.
I have previously had varying degrees of ancestry access (but never full) but I've never found much from it. These army records may well have been on ancestry but using the national archives site it linked me directly to Findmypast so I had the WO record number etc that made it much easier to know I had the right person. ( I never thought Jordan was THAT common a name until I started researching!!!!)
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I don't think now you'd get much more info from Ancestry than you've already gotten....
I had a similar experience trying to pin down someones military record and I got his soldier number from a child birth cert, but FindMyPast had that whereas Ancestry didn't because it was an Overseas British birth..... But I'd have never found the military record without his soldier number!!