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Title: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 19 February 13 19:45 GMT (UK)
Trying to locate Verona Ibbotson b 1877/8. Have located here on the 1891 as a servant at her aunts Elizabeth Bramhall (Ibbotson). There is a christening record for a Verona Ibbetson born to a Sarah Jane Ibbetson (Ibbotson) who if I'm correct is Elizabeth Bramhalls (Ibbotson) sister. Verona is an unusual name but I cannot seem to pick her up on the 1881, or I'm just not seeing it.

Regards David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 19 February 13 19:53 GMT (UK)
No birthplace included in post

1891 shows Brighouse
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 19 February 13 20:11 GMT (UK)
Hi

Yes the 1891 does look like Brighouse. The Christening record if correct shows Cawthorn nr Silkstone. Have also just found a 1896 Sheffield marriage record for a Verona Ibbotson on freebmd.

Regards David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 February 13 20:14 GMT (UK)
Birth September qtr 1877 
IBBETSON    Veerona
Halifax    9a   440
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 19 February 13 20:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

Just found a tree on anc for a Verona Ibbetson, B 1877 with 2 marriages, and showing her mother as Sarah Jane Ibbetson, but still cannot locate her on 1881.

Regard David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Jay55 on Wednesday 20 February 13 16:37 GMT (UK)
The baptism entry read as follows:
All Saints, Cawthorne

Date baptized: 10/2/1878
Child's Christian name: Verena
Parents: Sarah Jane Ibbetson (no father)
Abode: Ougthbridge
Quality, Trade or Profession: Spinster
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Jay55 on Wednesday 20 February 13 17:15 GMT (UK)
No luck with 1881 so far but found 1901 & 1911

1901 census - RG13/4379 ED 15 Folio 144 Page 9

164 Saville Street East, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield

William Urwin   Head 28 abt 1873 Sheffield Yorkshire Machine maker's labourer
Verona Urwin Wife 23 abt 1878 Sheffield Yorkshire
Thomas W Urwin Son 1 abt 1900 Sheffield Yorkshire
Mary E Jones Boarder 20 abt 1881 Sheffield Yorkshire


1911 census - Information removed
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:18 GMT (UK)
Hello

Many thanks for the 1901 had not found that one. Had also just found the baptism record for Verona. The tree on anc that Verona (married William Mathew Unwin) is shown on shows her mother Sarah Jane Ibbetson (Ibbotson) with two husband's...Ben Senior & ? Stanhope-Spencer. I am trying to make contact with the owner of the tree, but at the moment cannot locate any other details relating to the marriages. If anyone can find any details on them I would really appreciate it. The tree also shows another daughter "Ellen Jane Ibbetson" for Sarah Jane Ibbetson, any help on Ellen Jane would also be appreciated.

Regards David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:29 GMT (UK)
r Sarah Jane Ibbetson (Ibbotson) with two husband's...Ben Senior & ? Stanhope-Spencer.

 daughter "Ellen Jane Ibbetson" for Sarah Jane Ibbetson, any help on Ellen Jane would also be appreciated.



I wonder if she is actually Verena  ???

Here's the family on 1881 census

RG11; Piece: 4614; Folio: 101; Page: 19
Benjamin SENIOR 42
Sarah Jane 26
John 12
Benjamin 10
Charles 7
Jane Ellen IBBOTSON 2 Sheffield
Rachel Senior



Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:32 GMT (UK)
Here's a baptism 1878 Sheffield  Jane Ellen Ibbottson
parents Benjamin & Sarah Jane Ibbottson

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NP6H-BYD
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:53 GMT (UK)
Hello

The 1881 throws up some interesting questions. Many thanks for finding it.

David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:54 GMT (UK)
Here's Benjamin with first wife

1871 RG10; Piece: 4654; Folio: 182; Page: 12
Benjamin Senior 32
Mary Hannah 30
John 2
Benjamin 3 weeks

and marriage
Benjamin Senior father John married Mary Ann Crossland
 All Saints Silkstone 30 Mar 1868


Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 19:57 GMT (UK)
Don't know if this will help any 

Probate

Benjamin Senior of Hoylandswaine Penistone Yorkshire died 23 Nov 1919
Probate Wakefield 3 Jan 1920 to Matthew Henry Thickett retired Farmer & George Hill Fatmer
Effects £1267 3s.

Sarah Jane Senior widow of Nook Farm Hoylandswaine
Died 23 Nov 1924 Admin Wakefield 29 Dec to Joseph Senior steelworker
Effects £296 1s. 4d.

Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 20:03 GMT (UK)
Here's Benjamin & family 1891 & 1901

RG12; Piece: 3785; Folio: 186; Page: 2
Benjamin Senior 52 Hoylandswaine
Sarah Jane 36 (1855) Hoylandswaine
Benjamin 20
Jane Ellen 12
Elizab Ann 10
Owen 7
Joseph 5
John 3
George Henry 1

RG13; Piece: 4329; Folio: 148; Page: 7
The Nook
Benj SENIOR 62 Hoylandswaine Farmer
Jane 46 (1855) Sheffield
Benj 30
Eliz J 19
Owen 17
Joseph 15
John 13
Geo H 11
Fred 9

Can't post details of 1911 census Benjamin & Sarah Jane plus family are still in Yorkshire

for info.

Probate of their son John Ibbottson Senior

Of High Lee Cottage Hoyland Swaine Silkston Yorkshire died 17 Nov 1926
At Royal Infirmary Sheffield Probate 25 Jan to Joseph Senior steelworker & Mark Taylor farmer
Effects £1167 11s.

Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 20 February 13 21:24 GMT (UK)
There is a christening record for a Verona Ibbetson born to a Sarah Jane Ibbetson (Ibbotson) who if I'm correct is Elizabeth Bramhalls (Ibbotson) sister.

Verona is an unusual name but I cannot seem to pick her up on the 1881, or I'm just not seeing it.


Have you found Sarah Jane & Elizabeth Ibbotson together on any census to confirm they are sisters?

These are the only marriages I can see with a Benjamin & Sarah

Dec 1875 Bramley
Benjamin Ibbetson
Same page
Sarah Ibbetson

Mar 1879 Sheffield
Benjamin Senior
Name on same page
Sarah ANN Ibbotson
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: ibbotson on Thursday 21 February 13 13:01 GMT (UK)
Hi

Many thanks for all the help, really opened some more doors.

Regards David
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: lucykerry15 on Friday 01 September 23 14:29 BST (UK)
Hello, this is a very old thread but I am also researching Verona Ibbetson and and some information that I can share, if the original posters are still interested.
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 04 September 23 05:44 BST (UK)
Hi Lucykerry15

Welcome to Rootschat.

I would suggest you send a PM (private message) to Rootchat member ibbotson original poster of post 1

First though being a new member of Rootschat you use to need 3 posts to qualify to send a PM

Therefore send me an answer to this post  (that will be 2 post from you)

Then I'll post another post - then you answer that post (your 3rd post)

Then send ibboson a PM

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11304

Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: lucykerry15 on Monday 04 September 23 09:17 BST (UK)
Thank you for explaining to me how to do this!
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 04 September 23 11:06 BST (UK)
You have 2 posts now - put me another post up on this thread  and then you will have 3 -then send a PM to Ibboton

 ( just as Hi and post it )
Title: Re: 1881 help please/ Verona Ibbotson
Post by: lucykerry15 on Monday 04 September 23 11:13 BST (UK)
Hi