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Title: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 25 February 13 21:09 GMT (UK)

Hi ive been trying to find a 41 51 61 census record for james baker dob abt 1829 born  alfristion  .i have him living in brighton with his wife elizabeth ann dob abt 1830 born  hellingly in 71 and 81 census .they have a son called charles henry baker born in brighton in 1860 and a daughter harriet louisa bron 1857 brighton .i would like to find james living with his parents as a child so i can find out there names and what they did and also try and track down a marriage record for him and elizabeth ann so i can discover her maiden name and research her side of the family if possible .any help would be lovely !also is there a parish records for alfristion and hellingly arears ?
thanks
michelle  :)

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 25 February 13 21:40 GMT (UK)

Hi their is this James in 1841:-

Charles Baker 55 occ Blacksmith
Ann 50
George 15
Samuel 12
JAMES 10
Adelaide 8
Residing Village, Alfriston
Census Ref HO107/1114/2/14 / 23
Keyboard86

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 25 February 13 21:48 GMT (UK)

Hi again, in 1851 James Baker aged 22 occ Malster b Alfriston is a lodger at 1, Bunkers Hill, Brighton.
Census Ref HO107/1646/40/37

Keyboard86

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 25 February 13 22:00 GMT (UK)

Hi again, make of this what you will!

1861 Census

Ann Baker 31 Married b Hellingly
Charles H 1 b Brighton
They are visiting Daniel and Elizabeth Finch in Broomham, Sussex
Census Ref RG09/569/89/3

James Baker 30 Widower (possibly a bad Marr?) occ Farm Lab b Alfriston
Louisa 5 b Brighton
Residing at 9, The Follows, Milton Road, Brighton
Census Ref RG09/595/120/26
Keyboard86

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 25 February 13 22:09 GMT (UK)

And the marriage possibly:-

James Baker to Elizabeth Ann Finch Sept qtr 1856 Hailsham 2b 95

Keyboard86

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Monday 25 February 13 22:25 GMT (UK)

Hi  keyboard 86 thankyou! .i have just been searching myself and discovered that the finches are in fact elizabeth anns parents .who she visits in 1861 with baby !That could possibly be james and maybey the older daughter harriette louise ? not sure why he would put widower when they later on are living togather .or maybey they splitt up tempoarily .i live in brighton but dont regonize those street addresses i will have to look them up and go have a look .thanks again  :) ;D

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: omega 1 on Tuesday 26 February 13 09:43 GMT (UK)

Hello michelle

Baptised at Brighton,St Peter

Harriet Louisa
5 Apr 1857 daughter of James & Ann Baker.
At the time they were living Cambridge St & James a Brewers Labourer.

Charles Henry
13 Nov 1859 son of James & Ann Baker.
At the time living Ashton St & James a Labourer.

Elizabeth Ann
Baptised 18 Apr 1830 at Hellingly.
Daughter of Daniel & Elizabeth Finch
Lucy ,20 Mar 1828.

Seems Mum & Dad married at Chalvington,East Sussex
4 Jun 1827
Danile Finch,Bach
Elizabeth Simmons SP BOTP.

Charles & Ann Baker.

I found some Children Baptised at Alfiston
1818,1822,1824

Then Adelaide & Frances baptised 2 Jun 1833.Dad Blacksmith.
I could`nt find the 3 boys baptisums mentioned on the 1841 census in Alfiston.

If you have a lot of Sussex Ancestors,it maybe worth joining the Sussex Family History Group,which gives Members online access to Baptisms & Burials.Well worth the money :)

Kind regards

omega

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: omega 1 on Tuesday 26 February 13 10:47 GMT (UK)

Hello

Think i`ve found the 3 boys.

Baptised at Alfiston Ebenezer Chaple

George
23 Mar 1823
BORN 26 Dec 1822

Samuel
23 Apr 1828
BORN 21 Nov 1826

 James,seems dates are wrong way round

Baptised 18 Jun 1829
Born 29 Jul 1829.

Kind Regards

omega

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 26 February 13 20:21 GMT (UK)

Thanks omega you have been a great help i will look into all of that info you gave me right now
cheers :D

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: greeneyesgudge on Tuesday 26 February 13 21:22 GMT (UK)

Hi i have found all the relevant info you gave me and fs site has been good. James dad Charles was born 1785 in alfristion son of john and mary baker .but im confused as the mum of James Ann i think her maiden name is also baker ??as she was born in lewis and ive found a marriage in 1809 in lewis between a charles baker and an ann baker could it be possible they married within the family ?

Title: Re: james baker and elizabeth ann baker
Post by: omega 1 on Wednesday 27 February 13 10:42 GMT (UK)

Hello michelle

I found an Ann Baker baptised at Lewes,St Michael 1788, a poor image so no Mum or Dad`s name.
There was a Samuel Baker baptised 8 May 1798,born 3 Apr 1798,son of John & Mary.
Could he be a Brother ?

Possible marriages for a John & Mary
Litlington,East Sussex
4 May 1775
John Baker
Mary Collins (Alfiston)

Brightling,East Sussex
28 Mar 1780
John Baker & Mary Newington.

King Regards

omega