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Title: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 18 April 13 07:54 BST (UK)
I'm not particularly good at this, but I am trying to find some more info out about my family heritage. Last name is connett and I have records taking me back to James Lewis Connett born in 1877 and married Emma Maud Western in 1902 in New Plymouth New Zealand. And I believe his father is Robert Connett whom I believe took a census in Torquay, Devon, England. Does anyone have anymore info going back further etc?
Title: Re: Connett - New Zealand to England
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 18 April 13 08:10 BST (UK)
Is this them?

1881 census: Reference RG11, Piece 2167, Folio 101, Page 57
3, Rear No 3 Laburnam Row, Torquay, Tormoham, Devon

Connett, Robert  Head  M  38  General Labourer  b Kingskerswell, Devon
Connett, Emily  Wife  F  37  b Modbury
Connett, Elizabeth A  Daughter  F  5  Scholar  b Kingskerswell
Connett, James  Son  M  3  Scholar  b Torquay
Connett, Emily  Daughter  F  11 months  b Torquay


1891 census: RG12, 1703, 107, 18
Spring Steps, Torquay

Connett, Robert  Head  M  47  Sweeper  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Emily  Wife  F  46  b Modbury
Connett, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  16  Laundress  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Mary J  Daughter  F  8  Scholar  b Torquay
Connett, James  Son  M  13  Scholar  b Torquay
Title: Re: Connett - New Zealand to England
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 18 April 13 08:15 BST (UK)
And the parent's marriage:

March qtr 1875
Newton Abbott district    vol 5b, page 217

Connett, Robert
+ and on the same page +
Gillard, Emily


1871 census: RG10, 2089, 24, 24
St Marychurch, Barton, Devon

Connett, Robert  Head  M  53  Ag Lab  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Elizabeth  Wife  F  52  b Ashburton
Connett, Robert  Son  M  24  Ag Lab  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Samuel  Son  M  23  Ag Lab  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Sarah  Daughter  F  21  Domestic Servant  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Mary J  Daughter  F  17  Domestic Servant  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Charles  Son  M  14  Ag Lab  b Kingskerswell
Connett, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  11  Scholar  b Stokeinteignhead


And another potential marriage!
December qtr 1841
Newton Abbott district    vol 10, page 229

Connett, Robert
+ and on the same page +
Brooking, Elizabeth
Title: Re: Connett - New Zealand to England
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 18 April 13 11:33 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for the quick response!, yes I believe that is them :) So between the 1881 census and the 1891 census they lost a daughter Emily? And had another one Mary? (My wife's name is Emily).. So they must be the first of the 3 marriages and have gotten married in 1875, one year later had there 1st child. This is so cool!, Does it go back any further than that or what would I have to do to keep going back?
Thank you so much for your help!
Title: Re: Connett - New Zealand to England
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 18 April 13 11:56 BST (UK)
1841 is the earliest census - but I can't find then there?!

P.S.
I've asked a mod to move this topic moved to Devon - there may be a Devon expert out there who can help?!
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 18 April 13 12:45 BST (UK)
That's all good, hopefully some more things pop up. You have been a great help. Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 April 13 13:18 BST (UK)
As Robert/Elizabeth married late 1841 they would not together on the 1841 Census.

1841 Robert CONNELL (mistranscribed) is a Male Servant in the Household of John Barker, a Farmer, in Kingskeswell.
So unfortunately not with his Parents.

A Family Tree has Roberts Father as JOHN 1785-1869 but no Mothers name.

FreeREG has this Marriage which may be Roberts Parents;
01 January 1807, St Mary, Kingskerswell, Devon
John CONNETT and Ann POPHAM

1851 Census
Kingskerswell, Devon
HO107/1872/58/25
John CONNETT, 66, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Coffinswell
Ann Connett, 70, Wife, Mar, born Ashburton

You would need the 1841 Marriage Cert to confirm their Fathers names and occp's


Trish :)

Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 18 April 13 14:37 BST (UK)
Thanks Trish,
I'm thinking that my family link would go back to the Robert Connett and Emily Gillard's Marriage in 1875 as their son is James Lewis Connett who is my great grandfather... The only other "knowledge' I have on the Connett name is that it derived of D'Connetté (forgive the spelling, pronounced day-con-a-tay) which apparently came form france. Not sure if any of that would help haha.
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 April 13 14:54 BST (UK)
Ok this is how I see it;

JAMES LEWIS Connett 1877
Parents ROBERT Connett  1847 and Emily GILLARD
ROBERT Connett 1847
Parents ROBERT Connett  1818 or 1821 and Elizabeth BROOKING

This Robert is born c 1818-1821 on various Census

Found Robert c 1818/1821 as per 1841 Census

Probable Parents for ROBERT Connett 1818/1821
JOHN Connell and Ann POPHAM


Trish :)
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 April 13 14:59 BST (UK)
If you go to Familysearch.Org
Click on Search (top of page)
Then put in;
Surname, Connett
Click on Any and type in Devon

You will find the name goes way back in Devon to the 1600's at least.

www.familysearch.org
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 18 April 13 15:09 BST (UK)
Ok this is how I see it;

JAMES LEWIS Connett 1877
Parents ROBERT Connett  1847 and Emily GILLARD
ROBERT Connett 1847
Parents ROBERT Connett  1818 or 1821 and Elizabeth BROOKING

This Robert is born c 1818-1821 on various Census

Found Robert c 1818/1821 as per 1841 Census

Probable Parents for ROBERT Connett 1818/1821
JOHN Connell and Ann POPHAM


Trish :)

Which is just about where I had got to before I went shopping!
Thanks for confirming my hypothesis, Trish! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 April 13 15:53 BST (UK)
Great minds think alike ;D
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: terryleaman on Thursday 18 April 13 17:35 BST (UK)
I'll leave you to pick the bones out of this lot:-))
From my St Marychurch burial database:-
CONNET   Harry    was buried:-   14 March 1878   age:-   4m   notes/address:-   St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Christopher   was buried:-   20 June 1911   age:-   51   notes/address:-   Westhill, St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Elizabeth Brooking   was buried:-   22 April 1903   age:-   84   notes/address:-   Watcombe   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Ellen Frances   was buried:-   28 December 1905   age:-   47   notes/address:-   21 Barewell Road, St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Henry   was buried:-   06 March 1909   age:-   87   notes/address:-   21 Barewell Road, St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Mary Ann   was buried:-   06 July 1878   age:-   27   notes/address:-   St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Mary Ann   was buried:-   15 September 1906   age:-   85   notes/address:-   21 Barewell Road, St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
CONNETT   Minnie   was buried:-   22 December 1878   age:-   12w   notes/address:-   St Mary Church   where:-   St Marychurch   

Could this last entry of Minnie be Emily?   

There is only one Connett entry in my Baptism database:-
born:-   -   , baptised:-   2 October 1870   ,    Ellen Louisa   CONNETT   ,    child of:-   John & Mary Ann   of:-   Ellacombe   , fathers occupation:-   Labourer   , notes:-      , Where:-   Ellacombe   

Ellacombe was a new parish formed out of parts of a  number of parishes including part of St Marychurch                                    
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Friday 19 April 13 01:01 BST (UK)
Thanks Trish,
This has been such a huge help! I have learnt so much from this forum already. I will be sure to checkout the link you provided.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Connett - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Friday 19 April 13 02:00 BST (UK)
One Question.. How did you get the probable parents as John Connell etc?
Title: Re: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 22 April 13 14:34 BST (UK)
Hi JC,
I quoted earlier;
"A Family Tree has Roberts Father as JOHN 1785-1869 but no Mothers name".

Now if they had the 1841 M/C of Robert/Elizabeth this may be where his Fathers name came from.

I cant find Roberts Christening with my resources to confirm info.

As John Connett/Ann Popham Married 1807 Kingskerswell I think them to be likely Parents for Robert.

The M/C would confirm Roberts Fathers name/occp :)
Title: Re: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 12 June 14 07:14 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone,
Long time I know!, I hope all is well in your worlds :)
So I have just returned from a trip back from New Zealand and managed while I was in New Plymouth to track down some amazing info on my family (too much to go into detail). But it would appear that I may have got my info slightly wrong in the previous posts and wondered if anyone would be able to search a bit more as it appears I have hit a will.
So, James Baxter Connett who is my great great grandfather turns out was born in Exeter England in 1843, married Lavinia Snell in 1863 and in 64 moved to Queensland Australia for 2 years before arriving in New Plymouth New Zealand. But this is where the history for me seems to end, I cannot find who James parents were, but I know that there are records dating back to the mid 1500's for Connett in that region. I also found out that he studied at Kings College while in England.
James died in 1919 and with Lavinia had 4 children, Roy, James Lewis Connett (my great grandfather, who was actually born in New Plymouth, not Devon), and two other girls.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Julian
Title: Re: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 12 June 14 08:20 BST (UK)
OK! Back to square one!! ;D

1851 census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1869; Folio: 11; Page: 14
Halfpenny House, St Davids, Exeter, Devon

Connett, John  Head  M  49  Farmer of 142 acres & Innkeeper  b Tedburn St Mary, Devon
Connett, Elizabeth  Wife  F  48  b Tedburn ST Mary
Connett, Eleanor B  Daughter  F  20  b Exeter
Connett, Mary  Daughter  F  18  b Exeter
Connett, George  Son  M  11  Scholar  b Exeter
Connett, James  Son  M  7  Scholar  b Exeter
Connett, Sarah  Daughter  F  5  Scholar  b Exeter
Connett, Sarah  Mother  F  78  b Upton Hyne, Devon
Baxter, Samuel  Borther-in-Law  M  47  Formerly Farmer  b Tedburn St Mary
Baxter, Thomas  Nephew  M  19  Farm Labourer  b North Tawton
Wright, Robert  Servant  M  27  Ostler  b Upottery


1861 census: Class: RG09; Piece: 1397; Folio: 9; Page 12
Dorgest Farm, Cowley Road, Exeter

Connett, John  Head  M  59  Farmer of 120 acres  b Tedburn St Mary, Devon
Connett, Elizabeth  Wife  F  58  b Tedburn St Mary
Connett, Mary  Daughter  F  28  b Exeter
Connett, James  Son  M  17  Scholar  b Exeter
Connett, Sarah  Daughter  F  15  b Exeter
+ House Servant & Farm Labourer
Title: Re: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: JConnett on Thursday 12 June 14 08:29 BST (UK)
Thanks KGarrad!
That looks to be the one, as James went on to become a major farmer in both QLD and New Plymouth. Do they keep going back beyond his father John or does the trail end there?
Title: Re: CONNETT - England to New Zealand
Post by: leg88 on Sunday 01 March 15 08:43 GMT (UK)
Hello! I believe we are related - my great great grandfather = James Baxter Connett too! My grandmother = Irene Lavinia  Barclay née Connett. This collection of info has been very Helpful to me also. Thank you all. If you are interested, I have been collecting links to newspaper articles about James Baxter Connett and have just added a document with all the links to my Connett tree in Ancestry.com in the Media section.