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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: davidpaul on Saturday 04 May 13 21:55 BST (UK)
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looking for any information on James coe, born 1806 and his wife Hannah Williamson born 1812 ashton under lyne death 11th July 1892 lancashire trying to get information on these 2 who their parents where and if theirs any sibling ,etc any help would be greatly welcome regards David.
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On familysearch.org
James Coe
Christened 25 Aug 1805
At Saint Michael Ashton uner Lyne Lancashire
Born 18 Jul 1805
Father - John Coe
Mother - Hannah
James Coe
Christened - 2 Mar 1806
At Saint Michael Ashton uner Lyne Lancashire
Born 14 Dec 1805
Father - William Coe
Mother - Sarah
This is their marriage?
James Coe
Spouse - Hannah Williamson
married 16 Nov 1831
At Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
Although extremely useful the index isn't complete, only about a third of churches have been filmed. It may be helpul to compare the entries with the originals so ordering the film for the marriage may give more information.
This site may have some info http://www.tameside.gov.uk/archives/familyhistory/parish#ashton
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thanks for that crisane was their any maiden name for Hannah and any thing on john coe occupation many thanks David
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sorry about that didn't read it all thing James coe christened 1806 the right 1 father willaim and mother Sarah any maiden name for Sarah crisane regards David
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Hi David, having great problems locating this couple, is this Hannah in 1891?
Hannah Coe 78 Widow Living on own means b Ashton under Lyne
Annie S Lee? 35 Daughter/Single occ Governess b Manchester
Residing at Currier Lane, Ashton under Lyne
Census Ref RG12/3276/116/15
Keyboard86
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it could be her as have her for ashton under lyne and her death for lancs as the 11th july 1892 dont have james coe death have their children my direct ancestor being sarah coe .have been looking at lancs parish records and theirs a few williamsons that fit but so far no connection thanks for your reply regards david.
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is that a annie e coe if so could be them regards david.
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sorry about that didn't read it all thing James coe christened 1806 the right 1 father willaim and mother Sarah any maiden name for Sarah crisane regards David
No surname for Sarah on the online record but you could order the film (go to familysearch.org and you will get the details) and it may have further details.
There appears to be at least 3 other children baptised to this couple
Mary 1809. John 1816, Maria 1818.
I couldn't see anything relevant on Lancs OPC.
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many thanks crisane
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This could be William and Sarah parents of James with one of the children, John, mentioned in post #7
1841 HO107 Piece 532 Book 11 Folio 35 Page 9
Ashton Under Lyne Lancashire
Wm Coe 60 carrier
Sarah Coe 60
John Coe 25 carter
John Coe 3
All born in county.
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great crisane looks like its them what would a carrier of done this is very interesting could it of been like a errand goer many thanks David.
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This link will tell you about occupations
http://www.worldthroughthelens.com/family-history/old-occupations.php
I am also having a great deal of difficulty finding James and Hannah in the censuses.
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it could be her as have her for ashton under lyne and her death for lancs as the 11th july 1892 dont have james coe death have their children my direct ancestor being sarah coe .have been looking at lancs parish records and theirs a few williamsons that fit but so far no connection thanks for your reply regards david.
Hi David, as you know the names of their children could you possibly supply with years of birth/places?
Keyboard86
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sarah coe born ashton under lyne 1833 no death date as yet,john william coe 1835 no death date yet,james coe ashton under lyne 1840 death barton upon irwell 1868,ottiwell worall coe 1847 glossop derbyshire death 1898 ashton under lyne and annie e coe 1854 manchester no death date as yet regards david.
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Hi again David, would I be correct in stating that Sarah Coe b c 1833 married a James Chappel, if so in 1891 the family were in Blackpool, Lancs (Fylde registration district) if so their is this death:-
Sarah Chappell Sept qtr 1895 Fylde 8e 529 aged 62
The 1891 I showed would appear to be your Hannah as in 1881 Ottiwell W aged 30 b Glossop Annie E 27 b Manchester and Hannah aged 69 along with James Chappell 53 Son in Law
at 1, Currier Lane, Ashton under Lyne Census Ref RG11/4036/84/14
Keyboard86
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Hi again David, ok now located family in 1841 in Glossop Derbyshire Census Ref HO107/185/ 8/4 / 2
The occupation of James is a Hatter
1861 Hannah 49 Married b Ashton under Lyne
James 20 b Ashton under Lyne
Ettewell W 13 b Derbyshire
Annie E 7 b Hulme
Mary Ellithrine 7months Visitor b Hulme (possibly surname Ellithorne)
Residing at 2, Queens Street, Stretford
Census Ref RG09/2866/29/7
1871 Census
Hannah Coe 59 Widow b Ashton under Lyne
Ottiwell 21 b Manchester
Annie 17 b Manchester
Residing at Bardsley Green, Ashton under Lyne
Census Ref RG10/4068/129/37
Working on the assumption that the Coe family were in Manchester by 1851 (Possibly the 1851 is one of the "Water damaged" returns that are the bane of Manchester researchers, then their is this possible death:-
John William Coe Sept 1849 Manchester v20 page 814
Keyboard86
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thanks for all the info by you and crisane its is the same family James chappell being married to Sarah coe will be now trying to find Hannah Williamson's family any suggestions wellcome regards David.
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The John Coe aged 3 in the a previous post
John Coe born 1838 ashton Town mmn Coe
Heather
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There is a christening
Hannah Williamson
21st March 1813 St Michael, Ashton under Lyne
parent Alice williamson
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Hi
Rather than carrier, it might be Currier
CURRIER: A man who dresses and colours leather after it is tanned.
they were living on Currier lane which is still there today.
Heather
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thanks heatherjulie will have a look at the info you posted on hannah and alice williamson and will google their address many thanks david.
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this looks like the place greathttps://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=currier+lane+ashton+under+lyne&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487bb638b394850f:0xcc11e148c4d689a6,Currier+Ln,+Ashton-under-Lyne&gl=uk&ei=VUmGUd3qFO_B0gWkuYGwCA&ved=0CDIQ8gEwAA
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You might find this one useful later
Marriage: 2 Feb 1861 Stamford St Wesleyan Methodist, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Thomas Booth - 22, Cabinet Maker, Bachelor, Waddington Street, Staley Bridge
Eliza Ann Coe - 20, Milliner, Spinster, Grosvener St., Staley Bridge
Groom's Father: John Booth, Grocer
Bride's Father: James Coe, Hatter
Witness: Luke Evans; Mary Scott
Married by: Thomas Short Minister
Registrar: Samuel Fallone
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If you google
'currier lane ashton under lyne'
you will see a link to some old photographs of the area.
I drove past a couple of hours ago
;)
Heather
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ok heatherjulie googled and found number 1 is still standing great thanks david
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Hi again David, this looks to be a possible death for Annie E?
Annie Elizabeth Coe June qtr 1892 Ormskirk 8b 520 aged 38
Keyboard86
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thanks keyboards 86 for this other piece in my family jigsaw many thanks again to all who have searched regards David.
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Hi David
I have just found your thread and I was wondering if you are still researching this family. I am married to Vanessa Coe who fits into this family as
James & Hannah 1805 Great great grandfather
John William & Eliza 1835 Great grandfather
Frederick Paul & Mabel 1890 Grandfather
Stuart Paul & Joan 1921 Father
Not sure which link you were following, I only started in Dec 2015 but so far I have history links to
these families being involved in:
Krishnanagar, India
Calcutta, India
Victoria, Australia
Durban, South Africa
Poland PoW camp
Ashton under Lyne, Cheshire
Kent, UK
Currently I'm struggling with Jame's father in the late 1700, did you go down that route in your search ?
Thanks for any help
David
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Yes still looking but very difficult line found a fair bit on the Williamson and other names that come into that line will have to look through and post as for the coe line its been quite hard to find them was suggested that they may of been from 3 diffrent backgrounds one being jewish two being french or dutch and the thurd one being romany yet to find that prove
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1881
34 Lark Hill Terrace, Currier Lane Ashton
Samuel Fallone 50 Registrar of Marriages
Jane Fallone 42
William Fallone 8
Elizabeth Fallone 7
Samuel Fallone 4
Jane Fallone 3
Sarah Fletcher 17 Servant