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My GreatGrandfather Jesse Bird born Clutton in Somerset C1831 was the son of Samuel and Priscilla Bird.
On the 1841 census he was aged 10 and living in Clutton, then on Christmas Day 1863 he Joseph Bird a coal miner married Sarah James from Northamptonshire in the Parish Church in Oldbury in the West Midlands. This was his second marriage for he stated that he was a widower. He as Jesse Bird next appears on the 1871 Welsh Census aged 41 in Aberdare, South Wales.
Does anyone know where he was between 1841 and 1863 and or when and who he married and what became of his first wife?
Robin
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Hi,
My Great Grandfather was born Jesse Bird (son of Samuel & Priscilla Bird) in Clutton, Somerset C1831. On the 1841 English census he is recorded as being 10 and living in Clutton.
On Christmas Day 1863 Joseph Bird (aka Jesse Bird) a coal miner married Sarah James from Northamptonshire in the parish church in Oldbury in Staffordshire (now West Midlands).It states on the marriage certificate that he was a widower.
The next information I have on him is the 1871 Welsh Census when he Jesse/Joseph and Sarah were living in Incline Row in Aberdare in South Wales.
Does anyone know where he was between 1841 & 1863 and 1871 and or who was and what happened to his first wife.
Any leads on this will be very usefull.
Robin :)
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The daughter Mary A c1856, Staffs in the 1871 Aberdare census ought to be the 'link' to find clues in the 1861 census - but nowt so far ....
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In 1871 he has a 15 year old daughter Mary Ann born Stafford so I imagine she was born to his first wife. That gives us a clue where to look.
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Freebmd has an 1855 marriage in Staffs to either Mary Ann Guest or Esther Mary Maggs
www.freebmd.org.uk
www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk shows spouse as Esther - marriage was at St Thomas in Dudley
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he was still in Staffs in 1864 as son Jabez was born there
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,652554.0/topicseen.html
perhaps these 2 threads could be merged ?
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I wonder 1861? Living in Dudley Tipton. The Evans were visitors from Somerset
Joseph Beard 29 Coal miner b Somerset
Ester Beard 30 b Somerset
Aston Beard 8 b Somerset
Mary Ann Beard 4 b Tipton
Ann Evans 26 Visitors
Frances Evans 6
Wm Evans 3
Samuel Evans 1
RG 9 Piece 2045 Folio 131 Page 43
Kay
Topics merged
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"Aston" on the 1861 census was born before the 1855 marriage, and there's a birth in Clutton for Austin MAGGS, Jun Q 1853. (Clutton 5c 671)
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Just in case you decide to buy a copy of the 1855 marriage cert - bear this baptism in mind when you know her fathers name
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX2L-L4D
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Very many thanks to you all for helping me solve this mystery.
I can now see how this difference in names came about. Jesse/Joseph was from Somerset and was not able to read and write so when asked what his name was his way of saying Bird most likely in a very broad Somerset accent was taken as Beard.
I am going to follow up both leads census and certificate wise and pay a visit to the church in Dudley where he got married for the first time.
Robin :) ;)