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Title: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 20:23 BST (UK)
Hello all,

I'm researching the applicant of a number of factory plans I've been viewing recently - J. Brown (don't yet know first name) of East Royal Street. He was the owner of J. Brown & Sons hosiers on Rutland Street in Leicester. I'm looking for all household members and occupations.

May be a bit of a long-shot, he was 'of East Royal St' in an 1854 application, but not sure how long he stayed there for.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:07 BST (UK)
Hello, you may of already have seen this site,

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LEI/

If not, there is a section which reads:

Census

Our census page for England gives general information.
The 1851 Census for Leicestershire has been indexed by the Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society. The whole index is available on microfiche. The society has also published 24 volumes in printed form.
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:19 BST (UK)
Thanks for that - I'm actually a Leicester resident though and just trying to make my mammoth trip to the record office run a bit more smoothly tomorrow. I've got so much to do and locate (currently writing my thesis) and knowing a bit more about this guy before tomorrow would make my day run a bit more smoothly. Unfortunately my Ancestry subscription has run out so I'm not much use myself!
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:27 BST (UK)
Hi - I had a look on Ancestry but so far no luck but will keep on plodding. Bonnie
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

On the Gazetteer & Directory of Leicestershire & Rutland, 1861 there is an entry for the address
80 1/2 Rutland Street for a John Brown & Mr J Stafford, perhaps this is the Mr Brown you are researching?

JJ
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:36 BST (UK)
Hi,

On the Gazetteer & Directory of Leicestershire & Rutland, 1861 there is an entry for the address
80 1/2 Rutland Street for a John Brown & Mr J Stafford, perhaps this is the Mr Brown you are researching?

JJ

Interesting. I think it must be - the address is now 82 to 86 and 82a Rutland Street, but the building was significantly extended in 1862 and 1864, so the numbers will be all mixed-up. Had no idea there was a J. Stafford associated with the place - that's going to be very useful.. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:43 BST (UK)
Greeting’s Folks …..
1851 Census returns :~

14 Royal East Street

John Brown. Head 39. Glove manufactory b St Margaret’s Leicester,
Ann Wife. 33.  b As above,
Charles Son. 14 Scholar  b As above,
James Son 11. Ditto   b Ditto.
Eliza Dau. 9.  Ditto   b Ditto.

1861. De-Montfort Street
Same details as above but ages moved on by 10 years

MIKE. ……
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 21:51 BST (UK)
Well done Mike, you just beat me to the punch with that find  ;D
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:01 BST (UK)
Thank you Mike! And thank you anyone else who was looking at the same time - huuuugely appreciated. Gloves, eh? Interesting, again. I presume it was still gloves in 61?

Don't suppose I could be terribly cheeky and ask for 71 and 81 too, of the same family?...
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:02 BST (UK)
Also, Mike - don't suppose you know where Royal East Street was? I don't think it exists today.. That's not particularly important - I'm just curious.
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:11 BST (UK)
C1871 John and Ann Jones living same address as C1861. Occupation shown as Hosier Manufacturer
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:15 BST (UK)
C1881 has them at same address as 1861 & 1871 plus grandson Albert living with them too.  John shown as a Retired Hosiery Manufactory

If you have a look at the site I suggested before, you may find a map giving details of where East Royal Street is/was?  Bonnie
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: Mike from Leicester on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:22 BST (UK)
Greeting’s Folks …..

Royal East Street

Ran South to North
Abbey Street to Navigation Street

Part of it is still there at the back of the old Co-op Chapel
On Belgrave Gate where the Flyover is now ....
 
MIKE. ……
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 22:33 BST (UK)
Miri - have sent you a PM.  Bonnie
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: BonnieDownUnder on Tuesday 30 July 13 23:05 BST (UK)
Hi Miri - thanks PM - info will be on the way shortly.  Bonnie
Title: Re: 51 & 61 look-up please - J. Brown (East Royal Street?)
Post by: miri_miri on Tuesday 30 July 13 23:11 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for all the help - it's been very useful indeed!