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Title: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 05 September 13 15:46 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,
I need some help.  Im trying to find the info that would be on my grandmothers birth certificate but there seems to be some confusion over many things.  :(

On her marriage license it says 
Ada Elizabeth Goss
Born in Brixton
She was born 20Dec1895 (from obituary)

BUT...

her obituary says she was born in Bushey, Hertfordshire (christening maybe?)
My cousin says it might have been Hendon, Middlesex

AND
my cousin also says it might be under Ada Elizabeth White as somewhere along the way the family name changed from White to Goss....

So,
her father could either be under George Luke Goss (or White)
and her mother was Ada Maria Page

I have search all of the above and have not been able to find info about her birth.

Any help would be appreciated.Thanks!
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 05 September 13 16:24 BST (UK)
You wont be able to see the details on a birth cert without buying it.

I cant see a registration for an Ada Elizabeth Goss at that time.
There are lots of Ada Elizabeth Whites, incl this one in Hendon Regsitration District:

Jan/Feb/Mar 1896
Hendon ref 3a 193
Ada Elizabeth White

If she was born Dec 1895, then likely she was registered after the New Year!

I'll look to see if I can see her in 1901 census
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 05 September 13 16:27 BST (UK)
Yea, I had seen that one and wondered about it.  I am happy to order a birth cert for her but I need the right details first. 

Thanks for helping
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 05 September 13 16:34 BST (UK)
I cant see one in 1901 under either name with those parents. Or anything else that fits , other than:

RG13 52 51 14
Nazareth House
Hammersmith
Aga Goss age 6 bn London      * modified some days later - just seen typo! Should read Ada Goss!

it is some sort of institution.


Re: the cert - you wont know if it is the 'right' one till you order it! And you cant see what's on it in advance.
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 05 September 13 16:40 BST (UK)
Ok, my friend is at the archive center now I think.  Lets see what he finds.
Im trying to apply for UK work visa based on ancestry and need her birth cert to do that.   :-\  But this is proving a bit difficult with the different names and stuff. 

Thanks again
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: jacquelineve on Thursday 05 September 13 16:52 BST (UK)


     Marriage

Ada Maria Page  -  Luke White Sept qtr 1895  Hendon Middlesex

Jackie
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 05 September 13 17:40 BST (UK)
I cant see one in 1901 under either name with those parents. Or anything else that fits , other than:

RG13 52 51 14
Nazareth House
Hammersmith
Aga Goss age 6 bn London

it is some sort of institution.


It is Ada Goss. Nazareth House was a convent, home for aged and infirm, and destitute children.

Stan
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 05 September 13 18:58 BST (UK)
I doubt that was her as both her parents and her huge number of siblings immigrated to Canada in 1906.
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: Harper 7 on Thursday 05 September 13 19:01 BST (UK)


     Marriage

Ada Maria Page  -  Luke White Sept qtr 1895  Hendon Middlesex

Jackie

So that must be where the Hendon idea came from.  Thanks
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 September 13 19:57 BST (UK)
There is a christening for
Ada Elizabeth Goss
Mother Ada Maria
Father Luke Goss

14 March 1897 ST. PETER'S, BUSHEY, HERTFORD, ENGLAND

Heather
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 September 13 20:01 BST (UK)
Did she have a sister Florence Louisa?

Florence Louisa Goss
Christening14 March 1897
 ST. PETER'S, BUSHEY, HERTFORD, ENGLAND
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 September 13 20:08 BST (UK)
 ???Ada Goss born 20th December 1895
Santley Street School,Lambeth
Admission date 13 Jan 1902
Parent Chas Goss
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Thursday 05 September 13 20:24 BST (UK)
Did Luke have a sister called Ada Elizabeth?

Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: lizdb on Friday 06 September 13 08:51 BST (UK)
I doubt that was her as both her parents and her huge number of siblings immigrated to Canada in 1906.

Can you tell us the names, and if pos years of birth, of the siblings?
Still cant find the family in 1901.
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 06 September 13 09:08 BST (UK)
This is what info you would expect to find on an English or Welsh birth cert.

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:14 BST (UK)
Luke White
Birth Year: abt 1874
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Ada Maria Page
Spouse Age: 19
Marriage 29 Sep 1895  Willesden St Mary Brent
Father Name: Luke White
Spouse Father Name: Henry Edward Page
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:16 BST (UK)
1881
Swiss Nursery Perry Vale
Joseph Goshawk 57 Nurseryman
Ann Goshawk 61
Luke White 6 grandson born Brixton
Robert Mercer 23 Gardener

738/60/1
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:31 BST (UK)
There is a marriage for
Sophia Goshawk apr-may-jun 1874 on the same page is Luke White
Registration District: Strand, London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 897
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:33 BST (UK)
There is a death for a Sophia White in 1879 aged 27 Lewisham

Baptism
Sophia Goshawk
4 Jan 1852
Father's Name: Joseph Goshawk
Mother's Name: Ann Goshawk
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:36 BST (UK)
1871
Holland Road Brixton, Lambeth
Joseph Goshawk 46
Anne Goshawk 53
Sophia Goshawk 20
Charlotte Goshawk 18
R Samuel Goshawk 16
Louisa E Goshawk 13
Rosena C Goshawk 10
679/78/20
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 11:42 BST (UK)
Not been able to answer your original question but does any of the information found fit in with what you know about your family? :)

Heather
Title: Re: Help with finding Goss/White birth cert info
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 06 September 13 12:14 BST (UK)
Sohpia Goshawk
24 May 1874 Saint Martin In The Fields,Westminster,London,England
spouse:Luke White